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Posted By: Bakakage Posted On: Sep 6, 2005 Views: 836 | Mayors transcript this is the transcript from his interview with a local radio station. Kind of annoying how he says "man" more than a stoned hippy http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/nagin.transcript/index.html He discusses how new orleans is a drug hole, with narcotics easily flowing in and out of the city for a long time. And admits that part of the reason they are getting supplies slow is because of a law that they have to be requested, and the government is offering but the governer of louisiana isn't accepting everything. None the less, this guy didn't do much of anything to prevent. They had the 6000lb sandbags to help the leveys and they waited until the storm was about to hit before they even started trying to figure out what they needed to put them in place. They should have done that years ago. |
Posted By: Shampoo Man Posted On: Sep 6, 2005 Views: 814 | RE: Mayors transcript It sounds like he's shooting BS with his drinking buddies rather than trying to make sense of the situation. If it was an attempt to soothe citizens by blaming everyone and everything, it was rather poor and distasteful. I haven't the slighest idea how I would act if faced with such dire circumstances but I would like to think that I wouldn't hide in a corner and tell everyone how much they suck... |
Posted By: STFU Posted On: Sep 6, 2005 Views: 807 | RE: Mayors transcript If you knew anything you would know that the mayor has definetly not been hiding in a corner. He has been working non-stop to the point of exhaustion. His anger comes from trying to get things done. |
Posted By: Posted On: Sep 6, 2005 Views: 797 | RE: Mayors transcript don't forget he probably lost his home and stuff too. |
Posted By: adam Posted On: Sep 6, 2005 Views: 793 | RE: Mayors transcript the mayor would live in the rich suburbs |
Posted By: Shampoo Man Posted On: Sep 6, 2005 Views: 783 | RE: Mayors transcript Words have a funny way of resonating far longer than any deed. So while I know that he has tried his best within his capabilities to help where ever possible, going on a radio show to rant and rave how everyone else is slow to respond is pointless. It is blatantly obvious that the response was poorly coordinated and executed. Repeating this is like beating a dead horse. That time could have been better spent trying to look for any positive what so ever and instilling some hope in the remaining people in that area. So yes, he is a total dimwit for bitching on public radio and looks like a fool for doing so. He is a public servant that should be solely focused on delivering news-worthy information regarding rescue and supply efforts, not whining... |
Posted By: Posted On: Sep 6, 2005 Views: 781 | RE: Mayors transcript How easy it is to sit in the comfy confines of your dry house with running water and where none of your neighbors are dead in their own attic. The mayor has not left the downtown area since the hurricane hit. He has been working around the clock trying to get help. He sits there knowing his people are dying in the city. He knows they do not have water or food. It is only natural that the stress of the situation and the constant red tape would wear at him to the point of lashing out. I can guarantee that if it was your mother, sister, wife, or gay lover missing in that city and every time you asked for help you were told to just wait a while you might have a few choice words to say. Who cares if an entire nursing home full of people that couldn't evacuate is now completely under water. It isn't like your grandparents were there so no need to get upset. |
Posted By: Bakakage Posted On: Sep 6, 2005 Views: 774 | RE: Mayors transcript Why didn't the mayor use his resources to help evacuate? Its not like there are no school busses in the city to help evacuate those people who he knew couldn't leave on thier own means. Instead he waits and expects everyone to take care of themselves until disaster strikes. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. In other words, if he had just tried to get these people evacuated properly BEFORE the storm, we wouldn't have the fight of trying to get busses and planes in to transport people out after the place is flooded. And it only took them overnight to find out how to fix the levees. Thats what he said himself. it was supposedly a long process to figure out how to do it, but after they broke it took a very short time to figure out how to set things up to get the multi-ton sandbags in place. How come he didn't push the fact before hand instead of waiting until they broke to ride the engineers asses about it. They knew this storm was going to hit long before it did. |
Posted By: Posted On: Sep 6, 2005 Views: 770 | RE: Mayors transcript Do you think about these things before you type them or do you just wait until they are posted to see how uninformed you are? New Orleans is not Mayberry. There are over one million people in the city and surrounding suburbs. The unevacuated total was estimated around 100,000. Some were people that thought they could ride out the storm because they survived Camille but most were the poorest residents in the city. Most of the poor did not have their own transportation so they would need to be helped out. There was a 70 hour advance warning. Assuming they had over 1400 buses lined up and ready to go, they would have to evacuate 23 people per minute. This also doesn't figure in the sick and elderly that just can't walk on to a bus and say lets go. After that, where do they go? Where are you going to drive over 1400 buses to get people to safety? Like I said before, it's really easy to decide what they should have done from the confines of your dry comfy house. They always knew how to plug the levee breaches. They were waiting and waiting for the sandbags to get dropped almost from the beginning but the helicopters were diverted by FEMA to rescue missions so the first day or so the levees were left to overflow. They knew getting them plugged was not going to take a long time. What he said would be a long time was the actual draining of the city. Some FEMA people said 3 weeks but the mayor has always said 36-80 days. The management and construction of the levees are the responsibility of the Army Corp of Engineers. The mayor is not going to be able to influence their policies. An ACE representative said point blank that they did a study and determined that the levee only needed to hold up to a category 3 hurricane. The cost analysis did not warrant spending the $200 million to increase its protection. There is nothing the mayor could have done about that. New Orleans could not afford to maintain the levees. Are you suggesting they should have known beforehand where the barges would have hit the levee ripping the first hole and had sandbags there? |
Posted By: Shampoo Man Posted On: Sep 7, 2005 Views: 766 | RE: Mayors transcript If you have family or friends that were affected by this tragedy, I am very sorry for your loss. I don't know why you are dragging it to a personal level to prove a point. That is pathetic. I am simply stating that a leader should in inspire and not act defeated when speaking. I don't recall being critical of the mayor's efforts to partake in the search and rescue efforts. I am only stating that it is rather boneheaded to complain when the folks remaining in New Orleans are most likely looking for any ray of hope. |
Posted By: adam Posted On: Sep 7, 2005 Views: 763 | RE: Mayors transcript its easy for us to say it was poorly executed, but would any of us do any better? probably not |
Posted By: Bakakage Posted On: Sep 7, 2005 Views: 761 | RE: Mayors transcript It only took about 3-4 days to have the city pretty much evacuated once they actually got the busses there, and at that point they had a limited number of busses. As the mayor put it he felt they should have every greyhound bus in the county should have been diverted to evactuation after the storm had hit. The fact of the matter is he did very little before the storm hit and that cost many lives. Then he gets down on everyone else for doing so poor of a job |
Posted By: adam Posted On: Sep 7, 2005 Views: 759 | RE: Mayors transcript you see, these ppl need to be elected for the right reasons, not whether they are democrats or republican |
Posted By: Bakakage Posted On: Sep 7, 2005 Views: 754 | RE: Mayors transcript Dont read into this adam, but i agree with you. This whole bi-party system is crap...where its a bunch of big wigs who decide the 2 or 3 people we can vote for, and then people base which they pick on which big wigs put them up for vote. |
Posted By: Posted On: Sep 7, 2005 Views: 740 | RE: Mayors transcript More disinformation from black cabbage "It only took about 3-4 days to have the city pretty much evacuated once they actually got the busses there" We are at day ten and there are still over ten thousand people in the city. It has taken 10 days not 3 or 4 just to get to this point and that includes evacuation flights as well as buses. Black cabbage also forgets that it would be a logistical impossibility to evacuate everyone within a 70 hour period. Black cabbage know little to nothing about what the mayor of New Orleans did or is doing and that is why black cabbage is in agreement with adam. like minds think a like and all. |
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