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| Posted By: Bill Posted On: Oct 22, 2006 Views: 1206 | God Well, we are God's children. Believe any of that other stuff and you're an idiot. If you approach it the same way you approach a frog you're about to dissect in biology class, then you've obviously had faulty upbringing and chances are your parents probably divorced when you were a kid and television raised you. |
| Posted By: impersonator Posted On: Oct 22, 2006 Views: 1195 | RE: God wow! After reading everyones statements so far, I can honestly say that yours is the most black and white. Congratulations, here's your medal! |
| Posted By: impersonator Posted On: Oct 22, 2006 Views: 1193 | RE: God and if there is a god as you say, why does he make me wet the bed?!? |
| Posted By: Adam Posted On: Oct 22, 2006 Views: 1190 | RE: RE: God umm, your entitled to your own opinion, but I think that evolution is a pretty well proven fact. If you just look at all the stuff that Darwin compiled and all the research that has been done on DNA and genetics...you can definatly see some patterns. |
| Posted By: Posted On: Oct 22, 2006 Views: 1174 | RE: God Fake adam, evolution in not a "pretty well proven fact". That is why it is called a theory. Many of the ideas that make up the theory can be proven but the theory as a whole is still just a theory and Darwin himself knew it was far from complete. Things like species relationship can be proven through DNA but there is no basis to prove random mutation becoming a species trait. A baby aardvark's coloring is in such a way that when it holds on to its mothers tail, it creates the illusion of one large aardvark. Darwin's theory would suggest that at some point an aardvark's coloring mutated randomly to create this pattern and provide such a large advantage to the species as to become a dominant gene without the effects of inbreeding that would be required for the trait to affect an entire species from the one mutation. There is no way for this to be proven so it requires a leap of faith equal to anything in the religious realm to believe it. In the end, man is just doesn't have the intelligence to understand the origins of life any more than a single celled foraminifera can understand the complexities of the ocean. Most people can barely tie their shoes or balance a checkbook and yet they think they have the knowledge and ability to know the answer to one of the most complex questions humans will ever ask. |
| Posted By: Namerson Posted On: Oct 23, 2006 Views: 1157 | RE: God Just a note, theory does not imply contrary to fact, theory is merely a series of laws. Scientific theory does not exclude the truth of the theory, such as theory of gravity, everyone knows there is gravity, but it is still a theory, a system of laws that empirical fact adheres to. So saying something is "just a theory" is not an argument against the theory itself. However, it is fun to say "just a theory," and I say it as often as possible. I also slap myself as hard as I can every day. As far as my thoughts on the topic, which nobody cares about, and I don't even care about (my thoughts, not the topic, too many people care about the topic, especially without actually looking into it), the only thing we are is what we are. We just are. Yay. Get over yourselves. Actually, don't. You may now commence digitally making fun of my digital digits. |
| Posted By: That one idiot guy Posted On: Oct 23, 2006 Views: 1150 | RE: God foraminifera? Why don't you use your own words you god damn stealing other people's work egg headed son of a mentally lacking bitch. Balance a checkbook? You probably still live with mommy or daddy or both and dont even need to balance a job. |
| Posted By: Glynnis O Posted On: Oct 23, 2006 Views: 1145 | RE: God Bill- who are you to call people who choose not to believe in a god an idiot? Religion is phenominally easy to explain. Aztec, Mayan, and Incans had hundreds of gods and goddesses to explain the daily "phenomina" that happened in their lives Early Greeks and Romans used gods and goddesses to have an extrenal, agreed-upon system of faith that explained and rationalized occurrences and decisions Earlier Europeans, particularly the Catholic church used god as a means to control the government, people, and to collect huge sums of money from the King's subjects simultaneously instilling a fear in god Henry VIII manipulated Anglicanism as means of allowing him to divorce his many wives And to date, many religious groups use the form of god and 'morality' interchangably to acheive what they want (issues with prayer in schools, Creationism in schools, death penalty, gay marriage, abortions, ect) Religion is simply a means of having a bunch of different beliefs of what causes the unknown. Greek and Roman culture had gods to explain war, sleep, rain, storms, love, intelligence, and then later upgraded to mostly Catholic and protestant religions, which do not offer multi-gods (it's blasphemy now) because they have discovered means of knowing how the forementioned processes work! You don't see many Greeks and Italians worshipping Zeus and Athena now, do you? Of course they have statues, but to serve only as a reminder of what they founded many principles on. For me, MOST (NOT ALL) religious groups harness their gods as a mean to try to get what they want in life, but back it up claiming it's offending their morals and beliefs, because we're such an immensly politically correct society, and religion and government are beginning to mix again. Many religions are severly impeding progress in sciences because they claim its immoral and evolution is crap, ect. So you see, from a logical (and most likely "sinful" POV), religion is simply Man's way of explaining what is unknown. And for tax breaks. |
| Posted By: Named Posted On: Oct 23, 2006 Views: 1131 | RE: God Religion is more complicated than just an explanation for the unknown, that's a very standard secularist approach, however, it must be noted that religion has ethical value as well as the given epistemological undertones. Religion can be more than mere superstition. But other than that your point is well made. However, it is also a point well made that humanity still has a lot to learn, however, saying that we don't know everything should not be deterrent from trying to learn about everything. |
| Posted By: Bill Posted On: Oct 23, 2006 Views: 1104 | RE: God You should all do less thinking and more knowing. |
| Posted By: Stupid Post of the Week Jury Posted On: Oct 23, 2006 Views: 1102 | RE: God Congrats! You win the stupidest post of the week. Since it is only Monday that is quite an accomplishment. |
| Posted By: Posted On: Oct 24, 2006 Views: 1081 | RE: God Named, you are a total idiot. I like how you tried to sound smart by saying "however" as much as you could, even sometimes twice in one sentance. Now how about you actually address the facts against religion that were presented. Or are you too busy changing your big-boy diaper? |
| Posted By: mepball Posted On: Oct 24, 2006 Views: 1079 | Glynnis O well said. Please read the story of B it will add a layer to what you are saying. Very well said and thank you. |
| Posted By: Posted On: Oct 24, 2006 Views: 1071 | RE: God Namerson - yes, theory does not imply contrary to fact but it also does not mean fact. A theory can contain facts but that in itself does not prove the theory. Gravity is an excellent example. We know for a fact it exists. We have formulas to calculate it. It is also a bit odd and doesn't fit neatly into Newtonian Physics and several quantum theories are being developed to better explain gravity. Idiot guy - Yes, foraminifera. That is what they are called. I am not going to call them sea creatures just for you. Look it up. It's good for you. Glynnis O - You are confusing religion with power. your examples show how religion was used as an abuse of power. If religion was not in the equation other methods would have been used. If it were purely religion at fault, communism would not have the corruption it does. Ancient Greek and Roman religions died as a result of war, not because they thought up something better. Named - We should always try to learn more but we also need to accept we can not know everything. One clarification. The previous blank named post referring to big-boy diapers was someone else. |
| Posted By: OMG!?! Posted On: Oct 25, 2006 Views: 1060 | RE: God dragonmaster hasn't posted here yet? WTF? Come on guy, we need you! |
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