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Posted By: Ben

Posted On: Feb 12, 2007
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North Korea or Iran DO ANY OF YOU WATCH THE NEWS?

If you voted for Iran or N. Korea or even Syria you are a complete MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted By: impersonator

Posted On: Feb 12, 2007
Views: 1240
RE: North Korea or Iran DO ANY OF YOU WATCH THE NEWS?

dude what? There is no right or wrong on this poll, well, there's never really a right or wrong on any poll. What if someone on this board was from there and they voted for their country? The middle-eastern countries do have some hidden beauties to them that many of us do not see (don't even compare this to my remark about whyoming, I know what you're thinking...=P).

peace and love


Posted By: Neb

Posted On: Feb 13, 2007
Views: 1227
RE: RE: North Korea or Iran DO ANY OF YOU WATCH TH

I suppose you voted for North Korea then? Yeah, they love us.


Posted By: Nen

Posted On: Feb 13, 2007
Views: 1226
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oh, uh.. nevermind


Posted By: nifty

Posted On: Feb 13, 2007
Views: 1217
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most people voted for saudi arabia, which is not any better than north korea or iran. americans keep forgetting that most of the 9/11 highjackers were from saudi arabia.


Posted By: Nun

Posted On: Feb 13, 2007
Views: 1210
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I didn't. That is why I didn't vote for any of them.


Posted By: Jum

Posted On: Feb 14, 2007
Views: 1184
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I voted for Iran because Iraq was our enemy and our enemy's enemy is our friend.


Posted By: Hal

Posted On: Feb 14, 2007
Views: 1177
RE: North Korea or Iran DO ANY OF YOU WATCH THE NEWS?

Our enemy's enemy wants to kill us more than our enemy did. But whatever.

Osama bin Laden (remember him? The 9/11 guy? Like seven feet tall, with failing kidneys, living in a cave? Special Forces and the CIA can't find him? Who wasn't from Iraq?) is from Saudi....from a very prosperous Saudi family, in fact. His relatives own the construction company that built whatever base replaced Prince Sultan Air Base, from which the US and a few French and British aircraft staged Operation: Southern Watch (enforcing the interwar southern no-fly zone). Nothing weird or disconcerting, I'm sure, for the first troops who moved into THOSE rooms.


Posted By: kate

Posted On: Feb 14, 2007
Views: 1157
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no offense, butthose four aren't the only countries that dislike you guys. there are plenty of non-radical, non "terrorist" states that don't adore the US. Wonder why? Google "Maher Arar" and see why am innocent Canadian citizen is (still!) on your governments "no fly list".


Posted By: Hal

Posted On: Feb 14, 2007
Views: 1155
RE: North Korea or Iran DO ANY OF YOU WATCH THE NEWS?

Ahh.....Canadians. If it weren't for you guys, where would I pretend to be from when I travel?

So America's gone a little off its gourd after 9/11 with the whole "no-fly-list" thing. Hell, it has suspects no less dangerous than the guy who wrote "Peace Train"...who clearly is a dangerous maniac. We're a little reactionary, a little edgy.

I'm just sayin'.


Posted By: Hal

Posted On: Feb 14, 2007
Views: 1154
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So I took your advice and googled Arar.

Incidentally, Wikipedia (which is, admittedly, an imperfect system), says that in detaining Maher Arar, the Americans were probably acting on information from the RCMP....the Canadian Mounties. Don't know if it's true, but it certainly puts a kink in the argument if it is.

I'm not looking for a fight. I'm just sayin'.


Posted By: Syrgot

Posted On: Feb 14, 2007
Views: 1149
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all of those countries hate us. Saudi Arabia is the one who dubbed us "The Great Satan"


Posted By: kirsten

Posted On: Feb 15, 2007
Views: 1141
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Isn't Saudi Arabia not even really an Arabian country, but part of Africa? Last time I checked, we weren't enemies with Africa.


Posted By:

Posted On: Feb 15, 2007
Views: 1139
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This is how the US gets a reputation for being stupid.

Guess what. All the Arabian countries are in Africa or Asia. Those are continents.

Saudi Arabia is in Asia.


Posted By: Hal

Posted On: Feb 15, 2007
Views: 1137
RE: North Korea or Iran DO ANY OF YOU WATCH THE NEWS?

If you're trying to break it down geographically, yeah, the word "Arabia" means a peninsula straddling Africa and Asia. On it are Saudi Arabia....Yemen....I think UAE, maybe(?)....and some other top vacation sites for US troops. I could open a new Internet window to look at a map, but it's immaterial to my point.

If you're trying to figure this thing ethnically, which it sounds like Kirstin (or Kirsten? I forget...) is, then she's talking about Arabs as an ethnic group. But it's not even close to that simple; ethnic breakdowns get really hairy and confusing, with huge rivalries based on the Sunni/Shiite religious split, national borders drawn haphazardly by the West after WWI, and a whole slew of other things. Many Iraqis, for example, wish we'd stop dropping bombs all over the damn place! How long do you think Redcoats were in Boston before Loyalists started wanting them out?

But there's more! Most of the people there who have issues with the US don't have it based on their Arab ethnicity (although some, who dream of a Pan-Arabic state, do)....most just want the US (and the state of Israel) out of their oil-rich (and God-rich, if you're into that) territories. Others do have authentically religious motives (before you tell me that's "backwards," look at the American President). And - get this! - those Iranians we're having so much trouble with, they're not even ethnically Arabic, but Persian! And you have ethnic Turks and Kurds and all kinds of other people who don't seem to like us a whole lot.

So there's my ranting dissertation in a couple hundred words. Simplistic, but a start for people who wish Baghdad should stop fighting against Iraq or whatever.


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