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| Posted By: Bree Posted On: Feb 2, 2010 Views: 888 | To Nickygirl Wow, you can have whatever opinion you want of a fictional character as we all do, and I am happy to debate you....that's actually the fun part of these forums. But to attack KKL on her looks as a real person, how freakin tacky are you? She's beautiful! Hunter Tylo has had more plastic surgery than Joan Rivers for goodness sake, but, wow, don't bring that up, eh? And, you can google that and find out for yourself, in case you didn't think it was so freakin obvious to anyone that looks at her. And by no means am I attacking Hunter. She's gorgeous. Just very interesting how you think.... why did you have to go there? |
| Posted By: Nickygirl Posted On: Feb 2, 2010 Views: 905 | LV Back up every word, huh? Well, guess what. We have plenty of transcripts to prove that Brooke is a nasty, manipulative, backstabbing POS. How about that? You guys are always trying to justify her despicable actions by saying what a beautiful (matter of opinion...to me KKL USED TO BE pretty. Now? not so much), intelligent woman she is. So that should be the excuse for her chasing married men, betraying her daughter for couple of orgasms and playing the victim of her own mistakes all her life?? Not to me. And not to MILLIONS of other viewers who see her without pink colored glasses. There is no one on this show that hasn't been tainted in some way at some point. They all lied and cheated. But Bell has always drawn certain lines and I am grateful that he is still drawing them. He ALWAYS made the reasons for lies different for different characters. He has never written one character to be a SAINT, but some of them had motives that were not selfish and self-serving. That has never been Brooke. |
| Posted By: Emily Posted On: Feb 1, 2010 Views: 916 | Nick/Bridget/Sandy I agree that the writing for this s/l has become stupid. Bridget wouldn't get upset with Nick helping Sandy through this. After all she helped Brooke through her rape. So why go down this stupid path? The writing for B/B is beyond crazy. The show has become a big yawn fest. |
| Posted By: Lily Posted On: Feb 1, 2010 Views: 636 | Bridget/Nick/Sandy I can't believe that they are going to make Bridget the bad one here. Bridget would never be upset that Nick decided to help Sandy get closure and she would understand why Sandy didn't want her to know. The fact that they they have to go this unrealistic route is ridiculous...it's just a storyline to eventually push Nick/Sandy together, just makes no sense at all. Just when I thought B/B was getting good, they go back to stupid writing like this. |
| Posted By: Diva Posted On: Feb 1, 2010 Views: 637 | Well Rounded? Brooke and Ridge BOTH helped raise Thomas, Phoebe and Steffy. And you don't think Thomas's anger issues aren'warranted? How can you say that when HIS mother was thought to be dead and he RESENTED Brooke's presence in his father life? Remember how he took alcohol at the age of ten? And for Steffy, she is taking a leaf out of the the "logan handbook". She has seen Brooke and Donna seduce her father and grandfather from her very eyes, she has seen how destructive Brooke is. So the fact that she is impulsive is all credited to her loving Step-mother, Brooke. Beside, bridget and Rick have said that Brooke was a terrible mother and Bridget has recently said how she always wanted Stepahnie to be her mother and if it were not for her, she never would have turned out the way she has. How can you say Brooke is better mother when she stabbed her's heart by breeding with her husband, and enjoyed every bit of it too! |
| Posted By: diva Posted On: Feb 1, 2010 Views: 633 | re LV I didn't want to bring this up but since you dragged me into it, I was called names here too for defending Megs. However Megs cleared that up when she said didn't mind it, and I have ignored everything else after that. In future, please don't drag me like that again, especially after Megs came and explained everything. |
| Posted By: LV Posted On: Feb 1, 2010 Views: 641 | Megs "Twisted" "inaccurate" facts??? First off I could have transcripts to back every word I said. I have watched this show since the pilot. Isn't this show based on perception of the viewer? It is obvious that 2 people can watch the exact same scene and get a totally opposite interpretation of what they just saw play out. My facts are not twisted, they are the way I have interpreted whats being played out on screen, and I am able to recognize when my fav is doing something stupid and admitt it. You are basicly saying the way I see Brooke is wrong because I do not see it as a Taylor fan does?? That it is "innacurate"..why?? Lets just point out a few things I wrote about...Brooke was abandoned by her father, yet most people do not stop to think what that may have done to her. Maybe thats why she treats relationships as she does. Abandonment can cause all kinds of serious disorders, as we have seen Thoms display, But when Stephanie was shown as an abused child suddenly people were like "oh, that explains her behavior, now we understand, now its all ok..." But Brookes past is irrelevant. Brooke stole Jack? How did Brooke steal Jack? Taylor willingly gave him to Brooke via shared custody, Taylor hasn't lost Jack, she choose to draw up papers and share Jack with Brooke so they could all have a place in his life. And as far as we see on screen, Brooke doesn't play a big role in his life nor does Taylor. He lives with Nicket and seems very happy and stable. What makes him doomed for a terrible life. Hope, sure she has some hard times and some major issues to deal with because of her Mother's mistake. And Brooke was wrong and nearly lost me as a fan thru that period. However, I am not a fair weathered fan. You claim Brooke has no mothering skills, yet Brookes children are the most wel rounded, especailly compared Taylor's. THOMAS tried to kill Rick, the boy has issues, abondonment ones bigtime. He stalked Rick set fire to his home, bombed his car, now he is encourageing his sister to go after a married man, to offer herself up like a piece of meat and have an affair. he is disturbed to say the least. Steffy, wow she has the morals of an Alley cat if I have ever seen one. She has no respect for marriage, she is self righteous, entitled, spoiled, selfish, a liar and a huge manipulator. Take how she is using this situation with Katie to make her parents believe there is a conspiracy against her, when she knows there isn't. And she knows Katie doesn't like her because she has gone after her husband, not because she is a Forrester, yet she is willingly to lie to her family and cause trouble and friction to save her own hide. Now Brookes kids, Rick has some anger issues, but they are well warrented where Ridge is concerned, Ridge abandoned his mother time and time again and broke up his family. his anger is well placed. Other than that he is a successful buisness man. Bridgette is a Doctor/fashion desighner. She is intelligent, beautiful, talented, and well rounded. Besides her taste in men she is a good girl, both turned out really good. Hope seems so far to be a good hearted kid, she is trying to keep the peace, she is trying to be sympathetic to Steffy. She has good intentions. RJ must be off at Boarding school..so who knows. I'd say judging from children, Brooke had to do something right to raise children well rounded like she has. Now see I was nice and respectful in my response to you, it is a bit disheartening that I am referred to as twisted for my views because they differ from yours. Now being fair to Taylor, I am not a fan of her's. But...I would find her more interesting in SL's not involving Brooke, not with her patheticly daydreaming about Ridge coming back to her. trying to convince Ridge Brooke is not good enough( HE MADE HIS CHOICE, SHE SHOULD GET OVER IT), interfearing in FC which she has no business in, speaking to her grown daughters boss...I would kill my mother for doing that!! I actually like TIP. I enjoyed Ticky. And for the record I hope we find Jack to be Taylors bio child very soon and she gets him back, given Brooke was her bitter enemy I am sure that finding out she was Jacks mother was devastating. I hope she gets him back. I would also like to see Bell dabble in her past, maybe a long lost sister or brother, or even child, what about the missing years? There is a lot that could be done with Taylor that does not involve Ridge!! Now Taylor fans can pick apart my comments all they want, I just don't wish to be insulted or called names because Im a Brooke fan, which I see done a lot here and is why i don't usually comment. nor do I care to go back and fourth about who is right or wrong, because we will never agree. But you asked for a defense and I gave you my POV. |
| Posted By: Sharon Posted On: Feb 1, 2010 Views: 639 | Brooke v Taylor IMO, both of these women are trash but for different reasons. Brooke's breaking point was when she slept with Deacon and had Hope. What she did to her daughter was just nasty and vile. Inspite of the fact that Bridget forgave her. I am glad to see the fallout from Brooke's bad choices. Brooke has made some really poor choices over the years. And, it's time for her to grow up and deal with those poor choices that she makes. However, I don't think that Brooke should be dealing with this fallout alone. She didn't make Hope by herself. It's time for Deacon to come face to face with Hope. Taylor is a wolf in sheeps clothing. She always tries to play the woman with a moral compass. Someone that is quick to pass judgement on others. But lack the skills to look at her own life. I understand why she has issues with Brooke. But her blaming Brooke for everything that has gone wrong in her life is childish at best. Taylor is a grown woman that makes her own choices. She chose to stay and fight for a man that keeps going back in forth between her and Brooke. She blames Brooke for Ridge doing that. Why not blame herself and Ridge for the treatment that she has gotten on the years. Ridge will only treat her the way she allows him too. She has become Ridge's personal doormat. She goes off on Brooke for not being more supportive and understanding of Ridge. Why? Is Ridge's ego so fraglie that he can't handle a woman that doesn't make him the center of her world? The whole Rick/Taylor thing was just aweful. But the thing that made me dislike Taylor even more. Her walking away from Jack. I have been enjoying the show as of late. Not the whole Logan v Forresters crap. But the s/l with Nick, Bridget and Sandy. I want to see the fallout from Nick helping Sandy behind Bridget's back. I would love to see where this s/l leads. I really would love to see it lead with Nick going back to Brooke. The only time I could stomach Brooke was when she was with Nick. She actually acted like a grown woman then. I was hoping for a Bridget/Owen pairing. Now those two have chemistry together. |
| Posted By: Megs Posted On: Jan 30, 2010 Views: 692 | LV, dear Very protective post and a great defense for Brooke. However, my column is not about the entire show, it's about my opinion OF it. I don't have to be nice nice about Brooke or any other character if I choose not to be. We at Soaptown are columnists, not transcripters. We call it like we see it. I've spent many columns praising Brooke during the Bricky years because she was maturing and showing some motherly instincts for once and Brick was the hottest thing on daytime. Katherine Kelly and Jack were steaming up the tube. Guess they got too hot for some people's liking, ay? Still, LV, I neither have to nor will I write my column to please everyone. I'm not Brad Bell, sweetie pie, I don't write things specifically to keep a fan base interested only to dump them the next month. I've bashed Taylor when I felt she was rather stupid (The Rick affair, being stupid enough to want Ridge back after his hissy fit, etc.) and I have certainly made sure I am an equal opportunity basher. Brooke does get bashed more because so far, Taylor hasn't slept with her daughter's husband and pushed out a bastard child, neither has Taylor interfered in someone else's relationship by deliberately trying to get pregnant and ending up costing yet another child a miserable life ahead. You think HOPE is going to have a hard time??? Wait and see what poor Jack is going to face after he finds out how HE was conceived. As far as Diva, she's been asked not to come on my blog and call fellow posters names. I ask that all respect that here. She has minded her manners since my original post. So if the Taylor fans want to take the time to point out some rather 'twisted' facts in your post, they are most certainly welcome to. Remember, if you post something HERE, expect to have someone pick it to pieces with their own opinion. I'm sure there are some Taylor fans who will be more than happy to point out some of the rather.....well...inaccuracies...of some of the things you state happened to Brooke. Have at it, ladies and gentlemen, just remember no CUSSING, no THREATS, and let it ride, have fun, it's FICTIONAL CHARACTERS! :) |
| Posted By: LV Posted On: Jan 30, 2010 Views: 696 | Megs megs, you asked for the "Brooke Lover's" to tell you why they love her, why she should be respected etc. SO I am going to do for you now. But let me be clear, when you say tell "us", I am telling YOU, This is for you, and in response to YOUR post. i don't care to bicker back and fourth to opposing fanbases who we could type till our fingers fell off and never agree. First off I do believe your columns are very biased to Taylor. And honestly I don't believe you should be so one sided if you are writing about an entire show, otherwise the blog should be Lounging with Taylor shouldn' it?? Because if you are not a fan of her's I don't think you find the column to be enjoyable. If you are going to represent an opinion of an entire show, be fair to all it's characters, not just one. thats just how I see it, certainly you are entitled to your opinion, but I am not sure I feel someone so biased towards one character should be writing a column representing an entire show. Now, yes I am a Brooke FAN, won't way lover because she is fictional. I do not respect all the things Brooke has done, I certainly don't agree with the Breacon affair, or Bricky affair. But I do respect Brooke and feel she is talented, and strong, and definatly has more to offer than a good roll in the hay. Brooke was left by her father, abandoned, so she had to step up and help support her family and sisters, thus making her so close and protective of them. Brooke put herself thru college, earned a Degree, created a money making fabric that made FC millions with her BELIEF. She didn't steal Eric from Stephanie, they were already over when Brooke came into the picture. Eric loved Brooke, Brooke didn;t manipulate Eric into being with her like STephanie did. Eric has admitted Brooke is the love of his life. Brooke seems to take flack for things other characters can do, get away with, and be forgiven and forgotten. Brooke can't seem to do that. Now on to Bridge, The way i see it, and also they way Ridge admittedly see's it, he always loved and wanted Brooke, there was no re write, we saw it time and time again how Ridge wanted to be with Brooke but was manipulated by Taylor and His mother to be with Taylor. Ridge only choose Taylor to begin with because Eric begged him to, then it was Thomas baby bait, the hidden letter. I ask you this, if Taylor was so confident in Ridge's love for her why not tell him the truth about the BBB? Brooke is the one who lost her husband and family time and time again because Taylor and Stephanie manipulated Ridge into feeling like it was the right thing to do. Taylor finally has lost, but she has been no victim of Brooke's in fact I see it quite opposite. Brooke has suffered Taylor swooping in and stealing HER husband, breaking up HER family time and time again. Brooke has had to shield her family, even her children with Eric, against Stephanie's vicious attacks and lies. Brooke has had to play rough at times in order to compete with the likes of STephanie and Taylor. Brooke earned her way in FC,and Brooke was never alone in her relationships with any of the Forrester men. She didn't rape them or force them, they all wanted her. And Taylor has been with them all except Eric as well, and thats not saying she didn't want him, in the begining she did!! Which brings me to another thing that confuses me, You are cheering on Steffy for using her sexuality to get what she wants, but Brooke is a slut?? a Tramp?? Steffy is going after happily married men, she is trying to use sex to gain a company. DELIBERATLY!!! She knows exactly what she is doing and is being written very clearly as doing so. I don;t feel Brooke was ever written as plotting with Storm to sex up Eric or Ridge to gain control of FC?? Nor do I ever think Brooke went after a happily married man, where Ridge is concerned she only wanted what was taken from her to begin with. And I would hardly call Ridge a happily married man. How many times did he run to Brooke;s side, How many times did he prevent her from moving on, how many times did Taylor BEG him to keep Brooke out of their lives and he refused. Happily married men do not long for other woman. Ridge clearly did, he admitted it, and so did Taylor to Eric when she first came back after her second presumed death. She admitted it was always Brooke for Ridge and things never seemed right!! Lastly, any loving mother should put their children before ANY man. Brooke has been accused of so many years of not putting her children above men, and at times that was very true. Now she is doing that, putting her kids above all else and she is being critisized for that as well. I would not respect Brooke at all IF she were to choose to side with Ridge and Steffy over Hope. Steffy is not her child, Steffy is rude and disrespectful to Brooke. WHy would she?? Brooke is supporting her child as she should. Brooke is being accused of not supporting Ridge, yet she lied to her sister for weeks, plotted ot gain control back, was willing to give EVERY asset she had, her own childrens legacy, to get Ridge the company. Everyone seems to forget that. Everyone feels Brooke should do something, she can't. She is being pulled in so many different directions, by Ridge, by Hope, by Katie, By Steffy. Bill owns FC, not Katie, Brooke and Donna took positions that were offered to Eric and Ridge first but they declined. Brooke cannot change Bills mind. She has tried. Brooke alos has 4 children who she has wored an entire lifetime to leave a legacy too, taylor and STephanie seem to think only Steffy and Thomas deserve a legacy, and they are not even Forresters by blood mind you!! What about RJ, what about Rick and Bridgette who are Forresters, what about Alley and Dino?? Last Brooke didn't STEAL Jack, Tay willingly gave him up because she admitted he was better off and was clearly attached to her, she admitted only wanting him as a weapon to WIN AGAINST BROOKE. And lets face it she wasn't exactly the fittest mother when she did have Jack. And last time I checked they SHARE custody, so there is NO stealing. Brooke didn't ask for custody, taylor gave it to her. And Taylor has never looked back since she did. These are just a few of the reasons I respect Brooke, and how I see things. Thanks for taking the time to read. And being fair to your only set of rules here, you said no cussing!! I'm pretty sure you said the only thing that would get you banned was cussing?? Bye Bye Diva then right for calling office a B***h right??? ;) |
| Posted By: Nickygirl Posted On: Jan 30, 2010 Views: 719 | Tessa I wonder if you actually DID read all the opinions and if you took the time to actually UNDERSTAND what was being written. There is a very thin line between bashing a column and bashing the author, which is totally wrong and which was done numerous times here. But you are new... |
| Posted By: tessa Posted On: Jan 29, 2010 Views: 719 | i'm new to this .... you know, I read these posts and it's facinating to me that people take things so literally....my God, it's their opinions for goodness sake, yet people start talking trash to others when others don't happen to agree with them.....reading over all the other posts, i didn't see one person bashing the writer (megs) for who she was as a person, just her column and her one sided opinions...not her as a person....i saw people who had strong feelings that she (megs) was being bashed, when it waqs simply her column that people disagreed with. the woman(megs) herself said as much. people need to calm down, and while i am neither a brooke or taylor fan, it seems to me that the people that like brooke better are certainly getting bashed by the supposed taylor lovers who think they are justified in calling people names, etc. all in the name of the fictional character brooke who couldn't catch a break if she tried (by your standards). i wonder if you people actually think before you write your statements. |
| Posted By: Bree Posted On: Jan 29, 2010 Views: 706 | Diva And also to clarify one more thing, I NEVER personally attacked Megs.... |
| Posted By: Bree Posted On: Jan 29, 2010 Views: 682 | Diva I welcome it...thanks.... |
| Posted By: Diva Posted On: Jan 29, 2010 Views: 645 | I think You misinterpretated what BlueDemon said. She is saying to those posters "if they don't like or can't handle opinions of Megs" when they start bashing Megs personally for it. That's what she means. But of course, BlueDemon will clarify it later. |
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