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| Posted By: Natasa Posted On: Aug 17, 2002 Views: 2115 | I think it's fake! Well I think we didn't even leave the Earths orbit! For two reasons. One -is because the shadow is the wrong way. Two -is because the flag is swaying from side to side on one of the clips I have seen. Which is imposible in speace because there is no air and there fore,no wind either. I don't belive everything I see in pictures or clips , not unless I have seen it in real life. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Aug 18, 2002 Views: 2113 | RE: I think it's fake! I think Natasa is fairly typical of hoax believers. All the points she has raised have already been answered in detail on my web page, yet she still raises them, even the old flag waving nonsense. (That one's been beaten to death). Unbelievable! Bet she never even read the page before posting her comments. I find it amusing that Natasa does not believe everything she sees in pictures or clips, only if she has seen it in real life, but believes she saw the flag waving in the breeze on a clip. I wonder why that is? Keith |
| Posted By: Joe Harvey Posted On: Sep 13, 2002 Views: 2067 | RE: I think it's fake! If you don't believe anyting unelss you see it face to face then you must lead a really sad life. Do you need to jump off of a bridge to know that it will kill you? Or, can you just assume that all the people who have tried it and actually survived, and people who have seen it happen aren't just making it up? I checked out this site because I actually meet someone as stupid as you. If you really have to see everyhting first-hand to believe it than I suggest this for you. Go out and buy a loaded handgun, look down the barrel, and pull the trigger. Because of course it won't kill you since you haven't actaully done it yourself before. |
| Posted By: Jeff Martens-Koop Posted On: Oct 7, 2002 Views: 2038 | RE: I think it's fake! the thing is, I saw the fox TV show last night and went to the internet to see what I could find. I believe that we DID land on the moon, but you still have to understand how powerful the images in that show were. My stomach leaped each time they showed a bunch of evidence, and it really made me start to get worried. I checked out the evidence presented in favor of a real moon landing, and that made me convinced that it did happen. BUT the point is, it COULD have been faked if they really wanted to. I don't think that its fair to call hoax believers stupid. Our society almost seems to reward or at least cause paranoid behaviour (look at business practise, news media, and entertainment) Movies like "Wag the Dog" are not considered to be impossible fantasy's... (fringe yes, but impossible no) There is a LOT of propaganda "out there" and people know it, but I think society in general is having dificulty sorting out what is propaganda and what is not, so we inevitably make many mistakes. in your site you make derogatory comments about how you feel you are talking to a 5 year old. Five year olds deserve respect. 5 year olds react pretty much the way you expect them to, and that is exactly what hoax believers are doing. They are a product of societies pressure and the effects of slanted reporting. When I five year old makes a mistake (even repeatedly) we don't make them feel stupid -we correct them, and if they persist in calling a flower a vegetable, we don't take it personally and feel attacked ourselves. sometimes we just have to brush it off. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Oct 8, 2002 Views: 2035 | RE: I think it's fake! Hi Jeff, I agree that the Media can be very persuasive, but at least you took the trouble to carry out your own investigations and discovered the truth. You say that it is not fair to call hoax believers stupid, and I agree, only some of them are. These are the ones that I refer to as 'like talking to a five year old'. When people say "The photos are so good they must be fake" and ask "How did they manage to pack twelve astronauts into such a small lander?" and "Who stayed behind to film the landers taking off from the lunar surface?", this is nothing to do with the media, this is adults asking stupid questions. This is why I say it is like talking to a five year old. No disrespect to kids intended, just a measure of these so called adults intelligence. I would suggest that the majority of people in my position, receiving the type of emails I get from hoax believers, would call them a lot worse. I think I will publish some of them, without names, so that people will know the type of rubbish I sometimes have to deal with. Thankfully, the vast majority of emails I receive are from well informed people raising valid scientific points, its only the hoax believers that resort to rudeness, name calling and even threats. Keith |
| Posted By: darrel Posted On: Oct 12, 2002 Views: 2025 | RE: I think it's fake! I wondered to you site by accident and although some of your arguments have substance, I did no see you make mention of a couple things (maybe I missed them): The footprints made on the moon indicated loose dirt. Why didn't the landing of the craft raise dust (would have stayed around a long time because of near 0 gravity). All equipment clothes etc. are clean. The government still cannot produce a hovering flying craft. The nearest relative is the osprey which has crash so many times they stopped trying, but development has recently started again. If they had the technology to create a manned jetpowered hovering craft, we would have seen it by now. Maybe they'll use it against Iraq. I'm sorry, the government is very deceptive and I think they pulled a fast one. |
| Posted By: darrel Posted On: Oct 12, 2002 Views: 2024 | RE: I think it's fake! By the way, what software are you using to power this discussion board? |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Oct 13, 2002 Views: 2021 | RE: I think it's fake! Hi Darrel, To answer your question regarding dust. Once disturbed it will follow a normal trajectory, as a missile would, there being no air resistence or air currents in a vacuum to take it off course. Even in 1/6 gravity it very soon comes down again, but away from where it was kicked up. Secondly, you say everything looks clean. Could you see specks of dust on a jpeg computer screen image? Some enlarged and enhanced images do show some dust in the lunar modules feet pads. Regarding the impossibility of a hovering flying craft, have you never heard of the British Harrier Jump Jets? They played a major role in the Gulf war. Proves my point about hoax believers and research! The software to power this message board is well advertised on the link to it. Proves my point about hoax believers having poor powers of observation! Keith |
| Posted By: lisa Posted On: Oct 15, 2002 Views: 2012 | RE: I think it's fake! hey people..... everyone is allowed to have their own opinion, and its damn near impossible to change their minds!!! If someone wants to think its a hoax, let them think that. there is absolutely no point in trying to change their mind, even if you think they are wrong. Me? im stuck in the middle... and dont bother trying to pull me either way, no matter how much youve scientifically proven it did happen. thats my opinion, im allowed to have it! lisa |
| Posted By: Brendan Posted On: Oct 21, 2002 Views: 2004 | RE: I think it's fake! i must congradulate you on having a very convincing site with much evidence that there have been moon landings. i am uncertain, i think it could of been possible for the media to have brainwashed the planet but am not a certain believer of the hoax. on this site i could not find any reasons why nasa have not returned to the moon. i know money is a big factor but i am not yet convinced and don't think i will be totally unless more new evidence probably from a new moon landing arises. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Oct 21, 2002 Views: 2002 | RE: I think it's fake! Hi Brendan, Thanks for your comments. You are right to point out that I have not answered the question of why we have not returned to the Moon. The reason is that I don't consider it has any relevance to whether or not we went there in the first place. However, as this question does come up on a fairly regular basis I have decided to include it, so thanks for pointing it out. Keith |
| Posted By: yankwank Posted On: Nov 8, 2002 Views: 1975 | RE: I think it's fake! So you believe everything you see on the papers and everything that the governments tell you, do you ? Poor misguided fool ! Wake up and smell the coffee ! No we never went to the Moon - get over it ! |
| Posted By: ernie Posted On: Nov 12, 2002 Views: 1959 | RE: RE: I think it's fake! Just a quick note about dust, please take one house brick and one angle grinder with suitable grinding wheel in to your living room, and grind it for a couple of minutes,when you can see you watch time how long the dust takes to land and clear.Then time this by 6 then take a look around your home and see how far the dust has traveled and how many things you can not make out for the dust.Then please think about it!!! |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Nov 12, 2002 Views: 1956 | RE: RE: I think it's fake! Hi Ernie, I'm sorry, but I have to say it is you that needs to think about it, I already have. You are comparing the way dust behaves in your house to how it behaves on the Moon, and reckon that by allowing six times as long for gravity, it will be the same. This is wrong. Similar comparisons are the reasons why so many hoax believers come up with false arguments when they try to compare conditions on Earth with conditions on the Moon. They are not comparing like with like, conditions on the Moon are very different. In your example you are not allowing for the fact that the dust in your house will be carried around by air currents, even upwards against gravity, and will spread all over the house as a result, even upstairs. The Moon is in a vacuum, any dust kicked up will come down very fast compared to here, because there are no air currents to carry it, and it will not drift anywhere. It will instead quickly fall to the surface even in 1/6 gravity, following a pure parabolic trajectory, each individual dust particle behaving like a miniature missile. Does that make sense now? Keith |
| Posted By: ernie Posted On: Nov 13, 2002 Views: 1912 | RE: I think it's fake! I think you need to think again the moon is not a vacume,also how did the shuttle land?? I think it fire a rocket motor which produced thurst,like wind which I think may just how moved the dust about a bit, also the the craft would have been charged with static hell they must have wash that sucker for hour to get it to look so good.But we all know the usa gov never lie!!! FOR CONTINUATION OF THIS TOPIC CLICK ON PAGE 2 |
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