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| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Feb 17, 2003 Views: 1034 | Hoax believers are pathetic You will notice from the comments below in "Bart Sibrel Lies" how the typical hoax believer works. They always start with a load of wacky claims. When you tie them down to specifics, they try and shift away from that particular subject and go onto another. But if you insist, and keep asking them to come up with one, just ONE, argument that they can defend, they fade away into the distance. They usually also end up by saying things like "NASA refuses to answer" and "I know you can't find any answer to this" and so on as they take their leave. The comments under "Bart Sibrel lies' and "NASA Lies" are typical. The claims made, all by the one person, are 1) Spacesuits dont work. They cannot control the temperature, protect from meteorites and radiation. Astronauts couldn't move around in them. 2) Sorry, you're right, they do work in Earth orbit, (I hadn't thought of that, silly me!) but not on the Moon. 3) I don't know why they can't work on the Moon, so I will ignore your question on that. Something to do with radiation. 4) No, I don't know the difference in radiation on the Moon to that in Earth orbit so I will ignore your question on that. 5) NASA killed the Columbia shuttle crew as a 'diversion' 6) The shuttle disaster could not have been an accident. No, I am unable to offer any explanation why not. I know it doesn't make sense so I will not expand on it. 7) Bart Sibrel's film of the Apollo 11 crew faking a video is 'proof' it was a hoax, all the proof we need. 8) I have no defence for your explanation of why it is not fake so I will ignore it. 9) NASA refuses to answer Sibrel. 10) Okay, so Sibrel was arrested for trespassing on Armstrongs property and has been banned from public meetings because of his ridiculous behaviour. I will ignore that. 11) Astronauts floating in space, miles high? 12) I cant actually think of a reason off-hand why they cant do it, so will ignore your question on it. Okay, we get the message. So it always is with hoax believers. Pin them down to just one of their many points and they end up stumped. So why do they bother? They must think I am as stupid as they are. How wrong can you be? Come on guys, stop whining like kids in the playground Its not true, it isnt! and offer up just ONE fact that cannot be overturned. Put up or shut up! |
| Posted By: Bart Posted On: Feb 17, 2003 Views: 1027 | RE: Hoax believers are pathetic Yeah,your'e right,Keith. I just watched the crew of Apollo 11 faking film accounts on Bart Sibrel's DVD. I guess I just imagined it. Also looked at several photos and film of DIFFERENT Apollo missions which show the same set(same rocks,formations,mountains,etc...when they were supposed to be SEVERAL HUNDRED MILES AWAY!!!) Guess I imagined that,too. Wish I could get one of those cool cameras they used on the Moon...the ones where they can change settings and filters with those pressurized gloves.Except they take PERFECT phtos-unless of course you want to get a few of stars....The Earth sure shows up pretty good,though! |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Feb 17, 2003 Views: 1025 | RE: Hoax believers are pathetic Bart does not undersand why the stars do not show up in the photos from the lunar surface. And he expects us to think that his claims are reasonable and factual? My God! Now you know why the astronauts, NASA, and people like myself, can't be bothered with such simple minded people. They just cannot accept the blindingly obvious! As it is obviously way above your simple level of understanding, why not just get a camera, go outside on a clear dark night, floodlight the entire area all around, then take a photo of someone, with the stars in the sky in the background. When you have done all that, look at the photo without any stars in the sky, and confess to being both wrong and ignorant. Until then pipe down. Until then we are not interested in any more of your stupid remarks. Do not change the subject, take the photo. Got it? |
| Posted By: Bart Posted On: Feb 17, 2003 Views: 1023 | RE: Hoax believers are pathetic Actually,I have taken photos of the stars-with a cheap Nikon no less.Why didn't the astro-NOTs make adjustments?ALL their photos are perfect!They were so good,they didn't even need viewfinders!Even their matched panoramic shots are perfect!Do you think maybe they were so wrapped up in being on the Moon they forgot? I don't think those cameras would work in such extreme temps.Especially the film.Even Kodak said it's baloney.What about the radiation? Another thing: NASA denied using artificial lighting on the Moon. Should have kept their lying mouths shut.Now they can't back-pedal since it was proven almost ALL the photos and film use artificial lighting. Nice try with your weakass diversions! Good luck again,astro-boy! Sincerely, Bart |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Feb 18, 2003 Views: 1015 | RE: Hoax believers are pathetic Bart, I have to say this, YOU ARE A LIAR! 1) You say you have taken photos of the stars, so have I, I have been doing it for years. What you do NOT have is a photo like the ones taken on the Moon. You DO NOT have a photo of a brightly lit person standing on a brightly lit surface at night, that shows stars in the sky. If you are not a liar, then email me the photo and I will publish it, until then I say you LIE. The point is, it just cant be done, no film can handle the range of intense brightness of the foreground person and surface, AND register the light from the very dim stars, it's impossible, thats why I KNOW you are telling a lie. 2) You say all the photos were perfect. How do you know that? Have you seen all 30,000 of them? No, of course not, they have not all been released. NASA naturally only release the good shots, why release bad ones that are out of focus, wonky, or have the astronauts head missing? God, you really are dumb arent you. So to say ALL their photos are perfect is another LIE. 3) You say even their matched panoramic shots are perfect What a prize jerk you are! The panoramic shots were put together back on Earth, that's what the hatch-marks are for on the photos. Do you think the astronauts did that themselves, in their own special darkroom onboard the lunar lander? I cant believe how stupid you are! So to say the astronauts perfectly matched the panoramic shots is just another LIE. 4) You say I don't think those cameras would work in such extreme temps. Especially the film. Even Kodak said it's baloney. What about the radiation? This is just another of your stupid LIES, Kodak DO NOT say its baloney. Check out Kodaks site where they give details of the pictures taken by the Apollo 11 crew on the Moon, the camera they designed and how it was used. www.kodak.co.uk/country/US/en/government/ias/heritage/apollo11.shtml Its all there in black & white, by Kodak themselves, so once again, you are caught out LYING. That puts and end to your stupid argument about the stars not appearing in the photos. This one comes up so often, and has been dealt with in such detail on my site, and many, many others, that I do not understand why you even mention it, it has become such a standing joke! Anyway, I have answered all your daft points on this one, and I say YOU ARE A LIAR. To prove me wrong you need to: 1) Send me the photo with the stars that compares with the ones on the Moon. 2) Prove that ALL the photos were perfect 3) Prove that it was the astronaut's perfect ligning up of all those panoramic shots and not a lab back on Earth. 4) Explain your claim that KODAK say the pictures cant be done - and give the Kodak URL WHERE THEY SAY THIS - when in fact they have an official website showing exactly how it WAS done. If you cannot answer these points - which you obviously cant - then there is absolutely no point in you continuing to raise any further stupid points, you have shown yourself up for what you are. This happens time and time again with hoax believers. Keep pushing them and they dig themselves into a hole from which they cant escape. Putting up a smokescreen of many other equally stupid points will not help you, just answer the points I have raised, or just fade away and admit defeat. |
| Posted By: Bart Posted On: Feb 18, 2003 Views: 995 | RE: Hoax believers are pathetic You took the bait and ran with it. I bet my girlfriend 100 bucks you would attack the panoramic photo mention and avoid discussing the lighting and shadow impossibilities,the same sets being used in different missions,etc. Thanks! If the astro-NOTS were on the moon,they would have taken pictures of the stars.You know it. But you are afraid to admit it. That's cool,though-my Dad still believes it really happened 'cause he watched it on TV. I,like millions of other people,watched David Copperfield make the Statue of Liberty disappear. I know it didn't really happen. Hopefully,your quest for the truth will surpass your need to idolize "heroes" who are nothing more than CRIMINAL,COWARDLY,LIARS. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Feb 19, 2003 Views: 992 | RE: Hoax believers are pathetic This is the previous comment I made:- "Anyway, I have answered all your daft points on this one, and I say YOU ARE A LIAR. To prove me wrong you need to: 1) Send me the photo with the stars that compares with the ones on the Moon. 2) Prove that ALL the photos were perfect 3) Prove that it was the astronaut's perfect ligning up of all those panoramic shots and not a lab back on Earth. 4) Explain your claim that KODAK say the pictures cant be done - and give the Kodak URL WHERE THEY SAY THIS - when in fact they have an official website showing exactly how it WAS done." I said in advance that you wouldn't be able to answer them, but would instead resort to the usual hoaxer's trick of throwing up a smokescreen of other idiotic questions, which have already been answered many times on many sites. You have lost your argument completely, you are unable to come back with any sort of answer to my calling you a LIAR so you throw up your usual smokescreen. GOODBYE LOOSER! The smokescreen trick just doesn't work, we know you are unable to defend your lies and have to resort to hiding behind even more. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Mar 5, 2003 Views: 946 | RE: Hoax believers are pathetic So once again poor old Bart, unable to come up with any answers, runs away to his great hero, Bart Sibrel, to find some more questions to hide behind. How many more time are you going to prove that you are an idiot Bart? |