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Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Feb 20, 2003 Views: 1021 | Advice for idiots Bart, this is for you. As this is my last contact with you I thought I would try and help you, as you obviously do need help. 1) DO THE RESEARCH. You would find it very useful to do your research BEFORE making a statement. For example, you said that spacesuits could not keep cool in a vacuum. I have listed on my site the URL of a site that explains in full scientific detail how spacesuits do this. It is pointless you saying spacesuits cannot work on the Moon when all the evidence of how they do work is put in front of you. In order to support your claim, you would need to supply scientific evidence that proves that they couldn't work, and I see no evidence that you have either the knowledge or intelligence to do this. Making wild unsupported claims like this only makes you look silly. 2) DO NOT MAKE CLAIMS THAT YOU CAN'T SUPPORT. Do not say a thing and then refuse to back it up, this again makes you look very silly. For example, you claimed to have a photo that duplicates lighting conditions on the Moon that shows stars in the sky. However, when asked to show it you refuse. Can you imagine how daft this makes you look? 3) DO NOT MAKE FALSE STATEMENTS. Don't make false statements in a vain effort to support a daft claim. For example, you said regarding films working on the Moon "even Kodak say it is baloney". This took me just two minutes to prove wrong. I went to "Google" typed in "Kodak" called up their site, clicked on the space page, and had a page of detail about how their cameras and film work on the Moon. Just two minutes is all it took. This makes you look very silly. 4) ADMIT WHEN YOU ARE WRONG. Nothing is worse then when having shown, beyond all dispute, a person is wrong, they try to wriggle out of it. Far better to admit being wrong on that one and move on. For example your Kodak claim above. When shown the website that undeniably refutes your statement, best to admit it. It only makes you look even more stupid when you come back with Kodak's advice about keeping film away from hospital X-ray machines. This just has the compounding effect of showing your ignorance on radiation. 5) REVEAL YOUR SOURCES. Do not just make a claim that is unsupported, it is worthless. When, for example, I give facts about radiation on my site I quote the sources. These are independent sources, not NASA. You make endless unsupported statements which means that they cannot be verified, which results in people dismissing them as worthless claims, which they are. Do not bother to quote other conspiracy theorists, what is the point in that? You need to quote from independent sources. Not once on my site or comments do I quote NASA. 6) NO ONE IS INTERESTED IN YOUR OPINION. You often begin your 'argument' by giving your own personal opinion. You don't seem to realise that no one cares a damn what Bart Hess thinks. People are only interested in the facts, in the truth, not in what you think. To say that you think, for example, that spacesuits are unable to control the temperature is a pointless and foolish remark to make. The facts have been put in front of you. You would need to explain, using the laws of thermodynamics, facts about water in vacuum, or whatever your argument is based on. To say Bart Hess thinks...counts for nothing, who cares what silly ideas you may have? What are the FACTS? So there you have it, how to conduct a sensible argument without looking stupid. Better late than never! Hope it helps. |
Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Feb 21, 2003 Views: 1017 | RE: Advice for idiots Oh yes, I almost forgot. One last thing for you Bart. You said:- "Before we can travel beyond earth's atmoshpere, we must conquer the hazardous radiation environment of space. -Sean O'Keefe, NASA Administrator,2002" You went on to say that O'Keefe must have forgotten about the Apollo missions when he said that, clearly implying that YOU think O'Keefe is saying that space travel is impossible because of radiation. This of course is yet another example of your endless crap. If we could just read ALL of what O'Keefe said, in his own words, it would help. That little dribble on its own doesn't tell the whole story, does it? This is just like your Kodak 'quote', which wasn't a quote at all, but just your own stupidity in thinking that conditions on the Moon are the same as the radiation from a hospital X-ray machine (that is so sad). Give the URL where this quote appears, that exact phrase, until then I say you lie, again. It definately is your own words for sure, not a copy and paste job, O'Keefe can spell 'atmosphere' and knows to capitalise 'Earth'. So the URL where we can read this exact quote for ourselves in full, where O'Keefe says space travel is impossible because of radiation, is......????? You must know it to be able to quote from it. |
Posted By: Bart Posted On: Feb 21, 2003 Views: 1010 | RE: Advice for idiots Moron, O'Keefe admitted that while appearing before a House Science Committee.His slip was an accident(or was it?).Obviously you only read 'nasa for kids'. Keith, you are a teenager with dreams-there's nothing wrong with that.Unfortunately,you want to be an astro-NOT so badly you are not understanding science. Quit trying to be Buck Rogers and learn something.You seem like a very passionate kid.Use that to understand REAL science and the TRUTH. |
Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Feb 21, 2003 Views: 1008 | RE: Advice for idiots So, according to you," O'Keefe admitted that while appearing before a House Science Committee" Well I have some wonderful news for you Bart! All those meetings are recorded in full, isn't that just great! What's more, they are all published on the net. That's where you must have found it! This is just so exciting isn't it! All you have to do is tell us which meeting it was and we will all be able to read it for ourselves. Once we have read it, as quoted by you, then we will all know that you told the truth. However, the sad news is, until you do show us the quote, we will all sadly think you are telling another lie because of your track record. Remember your little Kodak lie? That's why I said to you "Give the URL where this quote appears, that exact phrase, until then I say you lie, again." Bye the way, I still haven't got over you quoting from a Kodak manual for hospital staff advising them to keep film away from X-ray machines, a sensible precaution I would suggest, and claiming that is the same as Kodak saying that using film on the surface of the Moon "is baloney". How do you do that? That is just so ludicrous as to be almost unbelievable. Your fictional quote from O'Keefe, while still pure fiction, just isn't in the same class of pure idiocy. |
Posted By: we did 2 land on the moon! Posted On: Feb 21, 2003 Views: 999 | TO: bart You are one of the saddest cases of humanity i have ever read about in my life! morons like you should go back to cavemen times where you belong with all your neanderthal friends, fighting over raw maggot-covered meat, and dancing around naked beside an attempted bonfire. sound harsh? Not for you. |
Posted By: Bart Posted On: Feb 21, 2003 Views: 995 | RE: Advice for idiots 'We did 2 land on the moon', Thanks for those kind words,idiot.I don't know if that was directed more at me or your inbred family that you cuddle with in your trailer. You are nasa material.See if Keith can get you the hook-up with space camp. |
Posted By: we did 2 go to the moon! Posted On: Feb 21, 2003 Views: 989 | FYI: Brat hey, brat, or is it bart? Nah...brat. nice of you to actually have the guts to reply. hey, you aren't supposed to know what a trailer is. I thought you were illiterate in your little cave in IEurjklj (i believe i got the spelling right, lemme check...) that was directed at you, moron. Perhaps when Trailblazer photos the Apollo landing sites, then you will finally agree, or you might just say it's another hoax. So...now that you've annoyed Keith enough, why don't you see what you can say to me? Why did we NOT land on the moon? |
Posted By: Bart Posted On: Feb 21, 2003 Views: 984 | RE: Advice for idiots Trailblazer photos? nasa better do a better job faking those! LMAO! Prove they did go to the Moon! The only thing nasa is good for(except lying and wasting money) is picking up pieces of LOW EARTH ORBIT shuttle and little bits of astro-NOTs. If your living in the southern states,watch where you walk. It's a BIG CRIME SCENE. Call C.S.I.,Cape Canaveral |
Posted By: we did 2 go to the moon! Posted On: Feb 22, 2003 Views: 973 | Re:CSI lol. CBS would probably pick that one up and air it -so do shut up and prevent them from subjecting us to torture like that. as for proof, first of all, kindly explain the roughly 400kg of space rock brought back to earth.There's a lot more proof but judging on your past posts, i think you'd need it in bite-size pieces. So - what about those 400kg of space rock? |
Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Feb 24, 2003 Views: 957 | RE: Advice for idiots This is just sad old Bart once again trying to wriggle out of answering the questions put to him because he has no answer. So bart, before going on to other things, what is your answer to the 8 points I have raised in esponse to your idiotic questions? And the URL of the totally non-existant quote of O'keefe is???? Bart, you are just so pathetic |
Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Mar 5, 2003 Views: 940 | RE: Advice for idiots So once again poor old Bart is unable to come up with the answers so once again fades away to get a few more questions from his hero, Bart Sibrel, to hide behind. How sad, to be proven stupid so many times. |