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Posted By: john

Posted On: Jul 24, 2009
Views: 951
lunar equipment

hi,
you got too emotional about me and closed my previous post too early, sorry.

look:

1) russian rd-170 4-chamber engines (invented for the moon travel, as such) are the most powerful ones now and are purchased by nasa. no one can build anymore 1-chamber engine of the same power (as von braun claimed to have done).

2) temperature of the objects on the moon in the shade is about -150 C which would make impossible for the lunar rover batteries to work unless some active thermal control was used. from the disclosed schemes we see that the batteries were just closed with a thermal blanket and a dust cover.

3) the lunar module was never ever tested for landing/ascending in the conditions of non-zero gravity (moon gravity is 1/6 of earth but not zero). harriers were built by the other company that did not use nasa "findings" whatsoever. if we want to have a vertically ascending jet device we will go to harrier-companies, not to nasa.

4) lunar rover was never tested in the extreme temperature conditions,

5) well, the tests of lunar module/rover were the actual use of this equipment on the moon.

6) you tend to see the technical side of the apollo project purely through the ideology lenses. forget ideology. we just want to repeat the technical side. but we see more problems than solutions. my point is that the whole technological advance (if there was any) was simply lost.

7) you talk about scientists as the discovery channel or something. there are many highly professional scientists out there and general public has no clue how scientists work and what they really do. you tend to be a bit superficial about all this.




Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Jul 24, 2009
Views: 947
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Posted By: john

Posted On: Jul 24, 2009
Views: 945
RE: lunar equipment

hi,

great to hear from you again!

sure, everything i said about the rd-170 engines is true. nasa will have to use the complete russians rockets from the next year, as you probably know. the biggest mystery is instabilty of the 1-chamber engine with the equvalent power. nasa has no answers of how von braun actually did it.

anyway, i see that you just make fun at this website. in fact, maybe you are a "hoax believer", aren't you?? :-)

i guess in such social phenomena (like hoax believing) it is a very hard to distinguish who helps whom to exist. amateur "scientists" like you are the hardcore of those hoax believers.

anyway, you know exactly what i mean about the lack of tests. you are absolutely right, the lunar rover wasnt just a car, the astronaut's surviving was very much depending on it when they moved a bit away from the lunar module.

the lunar module is also a mystery. have you ever heard that they threw away any ballast from it?? they took off some equipment and put back some stones. but what about the gravity center of this fascinating flying platform?? we know how delicate the harrier plane is. 1 kg of the excentric weight can kill a pilot during the vertical ascending.

anyway, i was just trying to tell you that the damned batteries dont work in our lab at -100C. and the temperature distribution on the lunar rover was, and still is a mystery. we will need to spend 3-4 years on modeling to find out. nasa will need some 10 years and more billions just to repeat what they supposingly did in the 60s.







Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Jul 24, 2009
Views: 941
RE: RE: lunar equipment

You are a such an uneducated and ignorant fool, apart from being an inveterate liar as well.
Go away, you are a waste of space.
Have you not noticed that you have not attracted a single response to all your posts, despite attracting a number of viewings. The reason is no one is interested in your non-stop garbage, I only respond as it is my site and I feel I have a duty to.
However, I have gone above and beyond, you are on your own.
You really are a complete idiot.


Posted By: john

Posted On: Jul 24, 2009
Views: 939
RE: lunar equipment

i know, keith, you are a hoax. why do you keep this website running? only to satisfy your ability to insult people?

it doesnt matter how many people have reacted to my comments (all what i said is a bit too complicated for hoax believers), it is important that you understand that i may be right. my strength is that i am NOT a hoax believer. i just want to see all this from the position of modern technology. unfortunately, we are as far from the moon now as we were before the apollo mission. from this point of view, it was an ideological project, rather than a technological one. this is the only thing that i m trying to say.

how old are you? why are you so insulting? dont worry, everything will be fine...

see you on mars :-)

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_do_people_insult_other_people



Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Jul 24, 2009
Views: 935
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Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Jul 26, 2009
Views: 914
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Posted By: Maxim Dvoytsin

Posted On: Jul 26, 2009
Views: 908
RE: lunar equipment

Keith,I feel sorry.
You're one of the most intelligent people
I've ever talked with and your book is brilliant.
Whatever happens,never give up.Never!


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Jul 26, 2009
Views: 903
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Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Jul 27, 2009
Views: 888
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Posted By: Maxim Dvoytsin

Posted On: Jul 29, 2009
Views: 882
RE: lunar equipment

I wish I could take part in your argument but I'm not competent in this field.
May be,he's actually a scientist,who knows.
Btw,I've recently seen a news report where they say that a guy in the US has invented
a revolutionary new type of engine using plasma in its work.
What do you think about it?


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Jul 30, 2009
Views: 877
RE: lunar equipment

If he is a scientist I am Stephen Hawking.

Plasma engines have been used already and to good effect. They are well suited to long distance space travel but take a long time to build up speed. The new version that has just been tested is more powerful. It is the best way forward we have at this time.


Posted By: Wormwood

Posted On: Aug 6, 2009
Views: 849
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Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Aug 6, 2009
Views: 844
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Posted By: john

Posted On: Aug 18, 2009
Views: 514
RE: lunar equipment

hi keith,
sorry i didnt reply, i was on vacation.
sorry to learn about your condition, the only thing which may help is brachytherapy, did they discuss it with you?
i am not pretending, i am really a well-known scientist, but you know that modern science is very specialized and being a theoretician i am not able to easily "feel" what is going on in technology. i am not a hoax believer, i think that the apollo program was great, but so were the egyptian pyramids. if we did it, we can hardly repeat it. and indeed, the number of inconsitencies and questions move the whole thing to the realm of mythology.
anyway, i wish they can help you. prostate cancer is treatable. "brachytherapy", "seeds" - ask your doctor.


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