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Posted By: john

Posted On: Feb 11, 2010
Views: 1265
want to see the lunar equipment

hi. it's me again. how are you?
i am afraid i am turning into a hoax believer. help me. i want to see all the lunar hardware. all those nice landing modules and rovers. it seems such things do not exist anymore. where are they? we want to build the prototypes and sell them to china. help.


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Feb 13, 2010
Views: 1259
RE: want to see the lunar equipment

You are not turning into a hoax believer, you are one, it is like a woman saying she is only a little bit pregnant.
Why are you so desperate to see new photos of the rovers and other Apollo gear left on the Moon? There are already thousands of photos available, and video clips. If you think they are all fake then you are clearly ignorant enough to think all future ones will also be fake.

Accept the fact that you are just another sad, ignorant hoax believer and move on in your life, no one else can help you.


Posted By: john

Posted On: Feb 16, 2010
Views: 1248
RE: want to see the lunar equipment

no, you didnt understand. i dont want to see the pictures. i want to see the real thing and, better, with the blueprints. i and my friends want to re-build the whole thing and sell it to the chinese. we have started already, but found out that the whole lot of it just missing. therefore this unpleasant feeling. we suspect that maybe it didnt exist at all, except on the tv screens. oh well. nice to hear from you, anyway.


Posted By: john

Posted On: Feb 18, 2010
Views: 1240
RE: want to see the lunar equipment

true. no way out for us. keith, do you believe we WERE there? i wish i'd share your belief...


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Feb 19, 2010
Views: 1237
RE: want to see the lunar equipment

In order to think it was a hoax takes a lot of ignorance, which is why you will never find any scientific institution in the world claiming it was a hoax.
The only people that claim it was a hoax are just unqualified laymen who do not have the knowledge to understand the scientific principles involved and are easily led like sheep from one false claim to another. "Oh look, an unknown, unqualified, school drop-out teenager has posted a comment on the web site "Things they don't want you to know" saying that they couldn't get through the Van Allen belts without 6 feet of lead shielding, so it must be true."
I prefer the scientific explanations, but then, unlike hoax believers, I am not stupid.


Posted By: john

Posted On: Mar 10, 2010
Views: 1215
RE: want to see the lunar equipment

yes, i agree about scientific institutions. however, with one remarkable exception: many theoretists, if you ask them, can demonstrate a doubt, can show some sign of being "hoax believers"! i tried it myself (asking some theoretical scientists and non-technological scientists, biologists, etc) -- many of them can turn to be hoax believers! it says either something about our scientists or about the matter, or both. again, the apollo project, though well documented as we know, has left so little in the practice of science that become almost invisible after all these years (and it cannot be repeated on the same terms, no technology has left, it has TOTALLY disappeared). in contrary, only the historical/mythological aspect of it remains the same. this pushes it to the realm of mythology, collective dreams. therefore the position of the so called hoax believers is understandable. why should you trust media and politicians when the scientists simply say "we are unable to verify/repeat it".


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Mar 11, 2010
Views: 1211
RE: want to see the lunar equipment

Yes, I am sure that many "theoretists," are hoax believers.
I was reading only this week about a theorist who says he knows for a fact that the Sun is very small and very close, only a few miles away. His proof? You can tell by the way the rays of sunlight shining through gaps in the clouds converge to a point that is obviously not far above the clouds. CanĀ“t argue against that with such compelling evidence can you?
The thing here is that it requires at least some semblance of an education and at least a partly functioning brain to realise he is a total fruit cake. Unfortunately, because not everyone meets that criteria, there will be a certain number of people who believe him.
You don't believe it do you, that the Sun is only a few miles away and very small?


Posted By: john

Posted On: Mar 20, 2010
Views: 1191
RE: want to see the lunar equipment

"Also consider the recent announcement from NASA that it would take scientists 15 years from now to design and build a craft to go back to the Moon. Why when we have allegedly been there 6 times already? J. F. Kennedy announced in 1962 that Man would travel to the Moon by the end of the decade. Just 7 years later Man allegedly did just that. But more than 35 years later in a World that is vastly technologically superior to the 1960's, why would it take over twice as long to do the same thing today?"


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Mar 20, 2010
Views: 1188
RE: want to see the lunar equipment

You know what John? I've been thinking about it, maybe that theorist is right after all, maybe the Sun IS very small and only a couple of miles away. You seem to spend a lot of time with theorists, you think like they do, what's your opinion?


Posted By: john

Posted On: Apr 18, 2010
Views: 1159
RE: want to see the lunar equipment

response of an "apollo engineer" to the buzz aldrin's book (read it carefully, it may give you some interesting but strange ideas; and, yes, read the book, it may give you even stranger ideas):

Having worked on Apollo at Kennedy, I am always eager to read the latest books about space history. While I realize that the bulk of this book has to do with Aldrin's problems he endured (and overcame) after the mission, I was quite surprised at the number and magnitude of the technical errors I noticed regarding the mission. It made me wonder just how much input Aldrin really had in the writing of this book. Surely he knows better.

A few examples: the book states that Alan Shepard's Freedom 7 reached an altitude of 62 miles (it went up 116 miles). The book repeatedly refers to multiple engines on the LM descent and ascent stages as well as on the Service Module; each of the 3 only had one engine. The book refers to the "dark side" of the moon; (there is no "dark" side, only a "far" or "back" side). Even the text on the LM commemoration plaque is misquoted. There are many more.

There is a photo whose caption states it is taken after Aldrin's Gemini 12 EVA. If this is true, who took it from outside the spacecraft? It is actually a photo (JSC image S66-59907) taken prior to liftoff. (The visor protective cover is still in place.)

All in all, I still enjoyed the book, but I am always suspect about the rest of the book when I am able to find so many errors in the parts I am familiar with. But these errors in no way detract from my admiration of the man.


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Apr 18, 2010
Views: 1156
RE: want to see the lunar equipment

So Aldrin publishes a book and it has some errors in it. Wow! Hold the front page!
When famous people who are not authors "write" books it is usually done by them giving extensive interviews to the real author of the book (the ghost writer) who then puts it all together. The end result is usually a readable book professionaly written, which will be a big improvement on just letting the celebrity write it. The downside is that there will inevitably be mistakes made, but so what? You think that adds something to your wacky conspiracy theory? Get real.
You really are a sad and somewhat pathetic individual.


Posted By: john

Posted On: May 13, 2010
Views: 1129
RE: want to see the lunar equipment

yep.


Posted By: Randy

Posted On: May 7, 2011
Views: 965
RE: want to see the lunar equipment

I've heard the next landing can earliest happen in 2075.


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: May 8, 2011
Views: 963
RE: want to see the lunar equipment

That just goes to show that you shouldn't listen to morons.


 

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