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Posted By: mike Posted On: May 3, 2002 Views: 1044	As far as i know EDP have made it clear This is my first time writing in this fourm, i have enjoyed some of the comments posted. It seems like EDP has more supporter both in ethiopia and in exile than all so called parties in ethiopia are combined. EDP is an infant party, only 2 years, but it has win the hearts and minds of most ethiopians.clear testimony of their popularity is a mass puplic debate/ domenstration they entertaind about a month ago in different parts of the counry. They also have shown their standingon every burning issues in the ethiopian politics. Forinstance, they have made their point that they would abide by the consititution as long as the EPRDF is in powere and that is why they are allowed to function as a political power. However this does not mean that they agree on all parts of the constitution. Accpeting the fact that self determination is man's God given rights,they howevery srictly are objected to article 39 of the ethiopian constitution that guratntee succession. Secondly they conmdems eritreas succession, becuase me and most of you know that the deal about eritrea was a done deal before they even(eprdf and eplf) lay they their feet in addis. They are objected to the succession because it was not excuted in a manner which other people demand to remain ethiopian was not respected. Case inpoint was afars. Me and many of you know that afaries are fighting with the ertrean gov.to have their say about future. So "pm meles" should read Edp'S interview with ethiopianreporter at ethiopianreporter.com. So you would have a clear understanding of EDP's standiing on the ethioian political landscape.
Posted By: pm Meles Posted On: May 3, 2002 Views: 1037	RE: As far as i know EDP have made it clear Dear mike, For last time how on earth EDP will get us Eritrea and Assab? You said "Secondly they conmdems eritreas succession, becuase me and most of you know that the deal about eritrea was a done deal before they even(eprdf and eplf) lay they their feet in addis. " Mike you must be FOOL...otherwise you would have know whoever lose a war. LOSE EVERY THING. When Ethiopia lose 40 years war. Ethiopia lose Every thing. EPLF would have a chance to break up Ethiopia if they would have wanted... Ethiopia would have been other Somilia... Instead EPLF AND TPLF rule the nation for last 8 year... We were like to have people like me and Eritrean leader for last 8 years... until Amhara came and spoil IT by crying for more WAR. As I said done deal or not ETPLF WIN THE WAR...SO they would have gotten their freedom any way they like... if they took their freedom without UN.. blassing..... Ethiopia would have a chance to turn over their indpendent at later date... but Now it is a done deal... when I think about Thanks GOD by hook or by crook Eritrean gone forever.. Last TELL ME WHY IS EDP BETTER THEN AAPP, AND EDU OR EPLF FOR THAT MATTER... if you ask me they are all Amhara party who want power without knowing how to rule the nation
Posted By: Tetyke Posted On: May 4, 2002 Views: 1029	RE: As far as i know EDP have made it clear Dear Melse, Don't get me wrong, I taught TPLF had a fare share of crambling Mengistu's regime and TPLF was Ethiopian party which had shared the desire and aspiration of its people, If this is the case how come it had given away Assab by the mere reason that EPLF had plyed a role in deafting Mengistu? Or either something else that TPLF wouldn't, couldn't,and shouldn't want to disclose to its fellow Ethiopian. Being defeated is something else, and being a foremedable part of a defeating part and yet willingly hand over its own land is something else. I think it needs Clarification!!!!!
Posted By: The Patriot Posted On: May 5, 2002 Views: 1023	RE: As far as i know EDP have made it clear Pm meles, Tetyke has a point. Can you give us a clear definition of the part the TPLF played in the defeat of Dergue? Because it sounds like from what you are saying that TPLF was just a dog following the ass of the EPLF while the marched into Addis. Is this true? If it is true then it means that EPLF did have TPLF as a puppet government in Addis. And if this is also true, is the TPLF still a puppet government? If they are, then they are not suitable to rule Ethiopia and they should pack their bags today!! Pm meles..you talk about EDP self-incrimating themselves but you have just done it without any effort.CONGRADULATIONS!!!
Posted By: pm MELES Posted On: May 6, 2002 Views: 1016	RE: As far as i know EDP have made it clear Dear The Patriot, EPLF AND TPLF rule Ethiopia for last 8 years. This a fact.. while EPLF RULING ETHIOPIA... Ethiopia had a free port and Eritrea had free acces to bigger market and so on... it was take and give... some Amhara might think Eritrea had a bigger share the point is those two people were living side by side.... the Amhara could not sleep knowing this and they want to break up this so wrote mile in their free press that Meles give them... Free speech work against MELES... BUT mELES WAS NOT FOOL AS Amhara thought. Meles stop the war soon and keep his power. If the war lasted more then two year Meles and Eritrea army would have be so weak even the lazy Amhara would have gotten the power without fighting. Meles out smart those Amhara and stop the war sooner that Amhara would like him. The second point is Amhara doesn't know take and give.. Meles and EPLF working hand in hand for last 8 years. Meles and EPLF had agreemant Meles keep that agreemant... He said it if Eritrea want to break up no one can stop her... if oromo want to break from unity no one can stop them.... this doesn't mean Meles will give Oromo their freedom just like that... When the point come to war and million will die then Meles will give up and leave the oromo to their wish instead of going to war for next 40 years. No power in this world can stop Eritrea wish to break up... even EU doesn't force unity on England when England reject EU. I have only good say to say about Eritrea does that mean I hate Ethiopia or I am sale out? The answr is NO it is foolish to think I must hate Eritrea in oder to prove my love for Ethiopia.. Why Meles has to prove any thing Why TPLF has to prove any thing to those IBD Amhara in that case EDP MUST ALSO MUST PROVE THEY ARE AN ETHIOPIA PARTY NOT AN AMHARA PARTY... let's start from their flag... what kind of flag they have... does they believe in one national language or they allow Afan Oromo to be used in oromia region and accpet the rejection of Amhirc in oromo region? To answer the question without EPLF HELP TPLF WOULD NOT HAVE GOT TO POWER. On the Same token EPLF also would not have seperated without the help of TPLF... Then question is does TPLF HELP eplf the answer is by helping EPLF TO GE WHAT THEY WANT TPLF avoid another 40 years war... then Again those IBD AMHAR DOESN'T CARE AOBUT WAR because they are not the one who are dying in war. long live Meles... I believe in Meles... He is one of a kind only comes once in every 3000years. Thanks and I am out! PS: My Patriot, what are you doing in America why are not in border fighting for Ethiopia. I thought patriot are in front line not in US sitting and opening their big mouth.
Posted By: The Patriot Posted On: May 7, 2002 Views: 1013	RE: RE: As far as i know EDP have made it clear PM Meles From your third-grade penmenship and your inconsistency in ideas it is obvious that you cant be the real PM Meles. Or maybe you can. GOD HELP US. But my point was to prove what you have just admitted. Anyone knows that if the two parties such as the EPLF and TPLF took power together than there would have been an internal fight between the two.After all,who would give a nation with abudant natural resources including oil,hydroelectricity(Ethiopia)away for a barren dirt farm like Eritrea. What I am trying to say to you is that TPLF is EPLF and EPLF is TPLF.There is no power sharing or give and take.You are all the same and you only care about Eritrea survival. P.S. It is sad to see Eritreans sinking so low as to argue for their PM MELES in web-site discussion rooms. P.S. You are right I am in the U.S. just like you and I have already served in the Armed Forces once bombing your cities(Nakfa,Asmara) in 1976. And believe me I would be happy to do it again when the time comes.
Posted By: The Patriot Posted On: May 7, 2002 Views: 1009	RE: As far as i know EDP have made it clear PM Meles Why dont you go solve Eritrea problems. I know that they have plenty of them. Eritrea is destroying itself from the inside and its foreign policy in based on agression.From Yemen, to Sudan, to Ethiopia, to Djbouti, and now back to Sudan. Ethiopia enjoys great international standing and without it Warsai-land can't survive. P.S. We know you have a blood promise to protect your PM Meles but no matter what the true children of Ethiopia can and will prevail over him. P.S. Get your ass over to asmarino or awate or whatever the **** website your dirt farm Warsai use this days and stay out of our country.
Posted By: PM MELES Posted On: May 7, 2002 Views: 1007	RE: As far as i know EDP have made it clear YES! TPLF AND EPLF one and the same thing... for last 17 years and while they are in forest. And for another 8 years TPLF AND EPLF where one and the same thing. What is wrong with that. Because of unity b/w TPLF AND EPLF TPLF NOW in Power in Addis. Because of UNITY WITH TPLF EPLF now have a nation they call their own... The way I look at it... the only way that TPLF live forever is to give OLF THEIR freedom. Once Oromo gone Amhara will never rise to mess up the horn of Africa... This is only my wish Oromo people become free from Amhara and Tigray people also free from Amhara and Amhara left by themselve to fight it out. It would be very interesting to see thos Addis Ababa Amhara go to war and see it themself instead of sending poor oromo kids. Thanks and I am out! Yes they way I see it EPLF AND TPLF must put aside their different and work togther to desroy the Amhara norrow minded hate monger and war monger
Posted By: Hassabu Posted On: May 7, 2002 Views: 1004	RE: As far as i know EDP have made it clear Melse, You don't share an Ethiopian ethicate and norm in your replies. Not only that but olso you are not that keen to see a peaceful and united Ethiopia,you are not ready to see Ethiopia's current problems to get solution in Ethiopian Context,you are accustomed to mud sling and lableing to anyone who dare to differ, you hate Amhara and EDP with passion. Most of Your replies lack an intellectual rigor, they are of layman's analysis.Your Articles incite haterd and gave an imperssion that you have a different agenda to that of the quest of fellow Ethiopian. You would like to see a weaker and a bananna reuplics insteade of one united federal ethiopia, You had advocated the OLF's Military struggle and the creation of Oromo republic. Melse, I am requesting on the behalf of the audience of this forum, please, get your act together we have already seen your trur colour.
Posted By: PM MELES Posted On: May 8, 2002 Views: 1001	RE: RE: RE: As far as i know EDP have made it clear Dear Hassabu, Do you know the meaning of united federal ethiopia? United federal Ethiopia is where Oromo, Tigray and Amhara rule themselves. What Amhara United Federal Ethiopia means is where Amhara rule the whole Ethiopia by sitting in Addis Ababa. Where the gold and coffee of Oromo goest to Addis Ababa to build Addis Ababa. NY tax payer money will not go to build the capital city of USA. if that the case we would not have United state of America. Ask the question why Eritrea leave the unity the simple answer is the Amhara want to rule Eritrea sitting 1000km away. Eritrea after fighting for last 40 years the did not leave unity when the win their war... they stay with Ethiopia for last 8 years. Why the Amhara will tell you the Eritreans want to loot Ethiopia the fact is Eritrea believe in unity so they stay with Ethiopia and both country border was open and Ethiopia getting free port... Yes there was trade war b/w Eritrea and Ethiopia but this trade war fuiled by Amhara cry for more war and it turn to border war... The Amhara were the one who wanted more one from day one. the Amhara are they want more war today just read them in any Amhara wabsite they want more war to get Assab to get this or that land they think the lost to Eritrea. I would be happy if they are the one who go to war but they are not going the one who go to war and die are the poor oromo and Amhara kids. The elite Amhara does not care about even poor Amhara kids dying if they do they would not have ask for more war after Ethiopia lost 100,000 army and 8 million people for hunger in two years war. Saying this make me Amhara hater then that is the price I pay for telling the turth, As I said the Eritreans were kicked out of unity the last time I check. If the Amhara were big in unity then why the supported the deportation of Eritrean Ethiopia from Ethiopia. The Amhara doesn't want any ethnic groups who want to much indpendent. As long as Eritreans accpt Amhara rule over them they are welcome as soon as the ask to much indpendent the Amhara want to kick them out of unity. That is what happned to Tigray the Amhara want to kick out the Tigray out of unity while the Tigray want to stay in unity. but they want to keep oromo even while the oromo saying they want independent.. The question is why the Amhara want to force unity on other people. You can't force unity on people and call it unity... You can't run over people and call it unity. If that the case love making and rape is one and the same thing in both case sex happend.. so what is the different b/w LOVE MAKING and REPE. Since the amhara will not understand this different b/w rape and LOVE MAKING I WILL TELL THEM. love making is when two person willing to have sex. Rape is when one person force the other person to have sex. The other person can love you to death as long as you don't love him/her back then sex should not happened by force. That is what happning in Ethiopia. The Amhara want to rape Oromo and want to call it LOVE. When I try to make a point about OLF ablity to defend themselves from Amhara... I don't mean I want more war. Okay let's do it this way let's have UN ARMY granding the border... to make sure no Amhara or Agame army crross oromo border. Let's disarm everyone... let's disarm the Agam army. and Amhara and oromo army also give up the arm to UN and let's UN take over the border issue b/w inter state. in each interstate border let's have 4000 UN army and the cost cover by Ethiopia... If cost us 50 million dollars a years that good for us because we will have peace. If any other enemy come to attack Ethiopia UN should promise us to protect us for exchange of disarmying the whole Ethiopia army. This way we will have balance of power. when no one have more gun then the other... still don't understand? then you are free to call me layman
Posted By: The Patriot Posted On: May 8, 2002 Views: 995	RE: As far as i know EDP have made it clear PM Meles What are you talking about? Get out..go to your eritrean web sites and argue with you warsai dirt-farming friends. You have no say in Ethiopian politics or planning. You still have the guerilla mentallity of 'lets arm them and they will be equal'. You are an idiot..the best way to achieve any peace is to disarm everyone not to arm more people. This is why it is easy to see right through you. You are a dirty warsai. Why arent you arguing on the eritrean web-sites about your dictator/president isayas- who has about 1/2 of your population at the borders. This should be your main concern. Why dont you go fight for your oromo of eritrean friends instead of sitting here and talking about the bankrupt,150-weak OLF. They are losers and your favorite friend,the PM, will soon be taken from his office in Addis and shot in the head. The camel-filled deserts of eritrea will then be the next target!!!

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