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Posted By: PM MELES Posted On: May 8, 2002 Views: 939	Does EDP RESPECT OLF PARTY TO EXIST IN ETHIOPIA? EDP make it clear that they don't want TPLF ARMY. They even clear that they want to shoot Meles on the head. I will not say this will not happened.. If Meles take it easy and forget and start trusting Amhara. That is what will happened. The EDP WILL take power and shoot Meles on the head.. and destory TPLF ARMY and make Agameland the real begger... For Oromo nothing will be change the EDP will LOOT where THE AGAME STOP. Whatever the Agame loot will be returned. All Agame from Addis will be deported to Agameland. Those eltie Agame will million dollars company will be kicked out of Addis Ababa just like Eritrean Ethiopians... What is new the Amhara from Oromo kicked out the Agame will not be the first... How to stop all this easy arm OLF then only Meles and Agameland will sleep peacfully... It would be a waste of time to build only Agame army... why fight a war if you can find someone fight your war... the oromo will be more than happy to fight the Agame war if they get freedom in exchange for Agame protction... Agame and Oromo is every thing to lose if Amhara win.. therefore the Agame and Oromo must unity to kick the Amhara where they belong... Meles can do this before he lose power... Short of this Meles will be sorry when the Amhara get power... it will be all over again... to war front for poor Agame people.. If Meles give power to Oromo after then Meles can even leave power and nothing will happened. Amhara without Oromo youth army they are nothing they will not fight any war. Amhara never fight they find some one to fight their war. The Russia and the Cubian were the one who fight for us for last 17 years.. The Italian war the British is the one who kicked out the Italian. Adwa the Eritrean and the Agame were the one who fight for us.. name any war chance are the Amhara never fought the war but they took all the credit.. Meles give freedom to Eritrea and END 40 years of war. Now Meles can also stop 100 years of war just by giving the oromo what they want... Meles also stop the two years war... now he will be the greatest ever lived if he give freedom to oromo before he leave office... in fact it will be good for Amhara. Instead of Amhara fighting over Oromo gold and coffee the will develp their own rich by working hard over Nile river. The Amhara region are not poor there are many rich in Amhara region all we need is for Amhara to work hard that all we need. Once the Amhara work hard and produce something then trade exchang will happend b/w the oromo and Amhara. The Amhara can supply the electicity power to whole oromo and the oromo will export coffee and gold and pay the serivice the Amhara give them and the Amhara will pay for serivce oromo provid.. Now we are talking business instead of one ruling over the other.. Look Djbouit are two nation but they are much closer then Oromo and Amhara who are the same nation... Dear Amhara pls. think about this before you open you big drunk mouth. I know all Amhara drink beer endless and spend their time away instead of working and saving hard...
Posted By: Keejela Kekeba Posted On: May 9, 2002 Views: 936	RE: Does EDP RESPECT OLF PARTY TO EXIST IN ETHIOPIA? Dear Brother Oromo, I really wonder where you learnt all this logic of yours. I assume it is from your new found Oromo Grammer land. Why do you fail prey to the Colonial mentality? You know that all this Djibouti, Eritrea and ... are the creation of colonial scramble for Africa. The Ethiopian kings mobilized the Ethiopian people (the Oromos, Amharas, Tigraians and others) to defeat our enemies. Now we buy all this fabricated history from false messaihs on how to govern ourselves. Do you really think the propblem of Ethiopians is the fact that diffrent Ethnicities live together? It is rather luck of good governance and insight on the part of our current leaders. It has been said again and again but since nobody listens, I am forced to humbly part my opinion. Keejela Kekeba
Posted By: Yanni Posted On: May 9, 2002 Views: 931	RE: Does EDP RESPECT OLF PARTY TO EXIST IN ETHIOPIA? Well, well, well.... look who is talking now. It is the same eritrean masquerading as one who understands Ethiopian political climate. It appears that this/these same individual(s), with their poor and limited observations think thay have 'fooled' us all. At the end of the day though, we will have the last laugh, because their emptiness and rhetorical shenanigans does not amount to anything. As any sane mind with an average intelligence could see, this/these individual(s) seemed to have time on their hands. Their goal is to confuse, soil, and poison Ethiopian issues, without grasping the basic tenets of discourse. They are like a hired gun as in the old west. The only diffrence is that these are tenderfoots and are really bad in delivery -- they have no clue. And hence, their mission is aborted right in their faces everytime they try. Even dirty propaganda for those who pursue it, is an art form. It requires some dexterity, a grasp of the basic. The idiots have have none of that. So, they have nothing to show, in terms of results to whom ever sent them with the mission. Hey idiots, this is not the same 'cadre training' that you have gotten at eplf/tplf camps. this is the world wibe web and the audience is a bit sophisticated and quite different. Just because people do not respond to your nonsense, it does not mean that they have not noticed your ignorance. They don write like you do, because they see you as hopless bunch and ignore you. You idiots do not seem to grasp that running around Ethiopian sites and blabbreing nonsense have the negative effect. You may think your mission is 'accomplished' in your little sick mind, but in the final analysis, you come out empty handed for your worthless efforts. Be yourself and use this platform for real issues.
Posted By: The Patriot Posted On: May 9, 2002 Views: 930	RE: Does EDP RESPECT OLF PARTY TO EXIST IN ETHIOPIA? Keejela Kekeba What lacks in our country is good governence and transparent political planning. Take a look at the powers in office and all of those formed outside of power. Just look at their names, most of the names of these groups contain the LF suffix-Liberation Front(Liberation from what?-Isnt the war over?). Then look at the policy of encouraging group rights instead of individualism and states rights. This starts to create a rift in the way Ethiopia's citizens think. Most Ethiopian citizens dont understand the concept of federalism and the way it is supposed to work. Instead they see themselves gambling and fighting over prosperity from their brothers and sisters. The problem is a simple one of political origin. The government has to take the initiative and revamp the disgusting configuration of Ethiopia's political system.
Posted By: Yanni Posted On: May 9, 2002 Views: 926	RE: Does EDP RESPECT OLF PARTY TO EXIST IN ETHIOPIA? It appears that you want or wish the governemnt somehow give you/us 'good governance'. Think about it, is that really achievable with tplf at the helm of power? We are dealing with die-hards who will do anything to stay in power rather than giving you good governance. To your credit, you have identified the problem, that is a very good start. But the solution I am afraid, is not going to come from a governement that deliberately divided Ethiopia into several ethnic homelands. So the 'transparency' that you talked about is not going to materialize, if you wait for Melles & Co. to hand democratic governance to our people. Democratic reform and/or freedom does not come easy. So, what is the solution....? I think the wisdom of a good discourse lies in tackling this very issue to come up with a working plan rather than just throw anything that comes to one's mind. The solution has to be well thought out and should address every Ethiopians concerns.
Posted By: Dagne Posted On: May 9, 2002 Views: 922	RE: Does EDP RESPECT OLF PARTY TO EXIST IN ETHIOPIA? PM meles are you saying if Meles is replaced by the EDP chaos will reign in ethiopia? you are alleging that EDP as an amhara party will take the country to war (with eritrea and tigray) and of course using the oromo youth. so you think for the oromo to defend itself from EDP (amhara party) meles should arm the OLF. let me say you may be right about EDP taking the country to war (at least with eritrea), but don't you think EDP needs tigray more than any for strategical purpose to invade eritrea? besides why do you think meles choose OLF over OPDO (member of eprdf). finally what other alternative solution do you have, what is wrong with living under a federally united system? where olf competes with opdo and rule the oromia state if it wins, under a federal system, is olf ready to do that?
Posted By: Pm MELES Posted On: May 9, 2002 Views: 916	RE: Does EDP RESPECT OLF PARTY TO EXIST IN ETHIOPIA? Dear Dagne, Even you are Amhara I will respect you because you answer my question unlike the other IBD amhara who have a lot to drink. Here is how it work Ethiopia have 9 regional state. The Amhara or Agame army should not allowed to cross the oromia border. if OLF OR OPDO is ruling that is all for oromia to sort it out! Meles have no save over oromia and all tax collected in oromia stay in oromia and only 25% of the tax goes to Addis Ababa govt. this way our federal govt. have money to give out to poor region. Federal govt. system is like two diff. nation. election and vote will take place without Meles hand in it. Oromia will elect whoever they want to rule oromoia etc etc etc etc.... The same rule will apply in Amhara region this way every body live by themselves instead one powerful LOOTING the weaker one... To make sure Oromo is indepndent from Addis Ababa govt. they need protction or they should be armied to defend themselves otherwise UN FORCE SHOULD BE PLACED AT OROMO AND AMHARA BODER this way UN will make sure any army cross inter state boder... In short YOU SAID EDP will take us to war over Eritrea for this reason I will not vote for EDP. THEY ARE warmonger.
Posted By: Prester john Posted On: May 10, 2002 Views: 909	RE: RE: Does EDP RESPECT OLF PARTY TO EXIST IN ETHIOPIA? Dear Pm meles when I read your reply i feel like you were copying it from colonials agenda that reflect divide and conquer ideology. Open your eyes....this worked only for them and succeded for a while. Now you see it as a solution for our problem. How pathetic is that! one thing i didnt understand about ethiopian habeshas(ethiopian and eritrean)political theme is that separation is better than confronting the problem or the crule leaders where as the world is trying to find the means to be united....this message is not from amhara :)but from one of your oromo brother....half oromo.
Posted By: The Patriot Posted On: May 11, 2002 Views: 896	the PM Meles in this comment room is an eritrean!! Dagne Prester john, Dont bother trying to reason with PM Meles. He is a dirt farming,frustrated eritrean that has nothing better to do than pretend to be something he wishes he was and cannot be. If you visit every Ethiopian on earth you will find no one with this type of logic. It only comes from paranoid eritreans. eritrea cannot exists without Ethiopia so the dirt farmers have taken it upon themselves to try to split up the Ethiopian people to their benefit. It wont work and cannot work. eritrea also has a fear of being invaded once EDP comes to power(which will eventually happen-both invasion and EDP coming to power)this is why they are campaining everywhere to try to break up support for EDP. Too bad EDP just recieved a permit to demonstrate in Addis Ababa on May 19,2002. And too bad EDP in the latest polls has about 75% approval among Ethiopians. eritreans hide under your dirt-farms because here we come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: A Proud & Non-Conforming Oromo Man Posted On: Jan 2, 2003 Views: 866	RE: Does EDP RESPECT OLF PARTY TO EXIST IN ETHIOPIA? HEY PATRIOT!... NEED ANY RECRUITS or VOLUNTEERS?!?!? AS AN ENLIGHTENED ETHIOPIAN MAN, I AM SERIOUSLY OFFENDED THAT THESE ERITREANS TRY TO TELL ME THAT ALL THE TRADITIONAL ETHIOPIAN HERO'S ARE MY ENEMIES WHO TRIED TO KILL MY PEOPLE...LIKE TEODROS AND MENELIK,ETC...(thing is white colonialists have been using these divide/conquor strategies within Africa/Eritreans themselves...and it works!)AMOUNG OTHER NON-SENSE AND HALF TRUTH' WITH NO POSSIBLE CONCRETE FACTOIDS...TOO BAD SOME OF MY TRIBESMEN RATHER NOT QUESTION THIS MOTIVE AND FOLLOW PRO-ERITREAN PARTY LIKE OLF WHO HAVE OUTDATED LEADERS WITH NO VISION EXCEPT TO SAY "YES" TO ISSAYAS, OLF IS NOT A TRUE REPRESENTATIVE PARTY OF THE OROMO...AT LEAST NOT MINE!! THERE IS NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH IN THE OLF JUST STUPID NON-FACTUAL RHETORIC ABOUT HOW BAD THE AMHARA'S ARE AND HOW WE SHOULD SUPPORT ERITREAN, WELL, I AM TIRED OF THAT OUTDATED THINKING AND OLD/OUTDATED SO CALLED LEADERS...WHEN ALL THE OROMO'S WILL SEE THE LIGHT THAT THIS IS ALL AN ERITREAN PLOY TO ENSLAVE THEIR FREE MINDS LIKE THEY DID TO TPLF AND CAUSE NOTHING BUT HAVOC ALL THE WAY TO ULTIMATELY SELF DESTRUCTION, THAN I FEEL SORRY FOR THE ERITREAN PSYCHO'S...EVEN IF THEY BEG FOR THEIR LIVES, GOD HELP US, I CERTAINLY CAN DO WITHOUT THIS ERITREAN MAN WHO IS OBVIOUSLY AN EMPLOYEE OF THE SHAEBIAN AGENTS!! MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT, THEIR WHOLE JOB IS TO CREATE CONFUSION, DIVIDE AND CONQUOR, RAISE DOUBT ABOUT ONE'S HISTORY...REWRITE IT FALSELY FOR NEW BEGINNINGS, CREATE AN EVIL FIGURE WHOM THEY WANT KILLED (AMHARA'S) AND CONTROL THEM IN THE END HOW EVER WAY THEY SEE FIT...AS LONG AS THEY DON'T QUESTION THE GOD ISSAYAS! ALL TRIBES/PEOPLE'S OF ETHIOPIA: EXAMINE THE TRUTH...NOT ACCORDING TO ANYONE'S INTERPRETATION (FOR THAT IS PROPAGANDA) BUT ACCORDING TO HISTORICAL FACTS & MOTIVES OF THESE WOLVES AMONG US CAUSE THEY WILL ALWAYS BE AMONG US AND MOSTLY ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU WITH YOUR EYES AND MIND. EVEN THE WHITES ACKNOWLEDGES ETHIOPIA'S EXISTENCE FOR MORE THAN A 100 YEARS...UNLIKE MELES/ISSAYS AND THEIR BRAINLESS ASHKARIS...SUCH AS THIS ERITREAN. THE PEOPLE'S OF ETHIOPIA AS I SEE IT INCLUDING MY (OROMO'S) ARE NOT SELLOUTS/BANDA'S LIKE THE ERITREANS WERE ITALIAN BANDA'S...THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN TO REAL ETHIOPIANS AND THE HERO'S!! DESPITE SELF-HATING/DENYING ERITREANS WHO RATHER ONLY LIVE WHILE DESTROYING/DIVIDING ETHIOPIANS THAN FACE THE 100% TRUTH THAT THEY CAN'T SURVIVE WITHOUT ETHIOPIA...ECONOMICALLY OR OTHERWISE. WHAT SCARES THEM TO DEATH EVEN BEYOND ALL THEIR SINS IS THAT UNLESS THEY DIVIDE AND DESTROY ETHIOPIANS NOW, NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO STOP THE GENOCIDE OF ERITREANS!! PERSONALLY, AS A PATRIOT, AND A NON-CONFORMING FREE OROMO THINKER, I WOULDN'T MIND TAKING A FEW OUT MYSELF! BUT WHAT REALLY EATS AT THEIR VERY BEING...IS THAT SOMEHOW, WHEN THEY ARE AT THE VERGE OF SELF DESTRUCTION, THEY MIGHT BEG US TO TAKE THEM BACK...WHAT A PITY FOR A PEOPLE AND A SO CALLED "COUNTRY"...ENJOY YOUR "INDEPENDENCE"! DON'T MEAN TO SOUND LIKE A HATER, BUT AS LONG AS PEOPLE LIKE THIS SHAEBIAN AGENT EXIST, WE SHOULD GIVE HIM A TASTE OF HIS OWN MEDICINE! AND A BIT OF INTELLECT PROVING THAT HE'S UNDERESTIMATED THE ETHIOPIAN PEOPLE!! AFTER THEY LEAVE TOWN THOUGH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FREEDOM AND EQUAL RIGHTS UNDER A NEW CONSTITUTION FOR THE OPPRESSED PEOPLE (INCLUDING OROMO'S)OF THE PAST AND MOST HARD HIT BY THE DERGUE AND THESE CURRENT ROACHES! I KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF OROMO'S THAT SHARE AT LEAST SOME OF MY VIEWS...I KNOW THAT PERSONALLY ALTHOUGH PUBLICALLY IT'S A TABOO TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS. IT'S TIME WE TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK AND STOP LETTING PUPPET GOV'TS THAT ISSAYAS CREATES AS OUR PEOPLE'S FRONTS FOR HIS BENEFITS ONLY! ***ANY PARTY THAT HAS AN ETHNIC ATTACHMENT TO IT IS WRONG AND NO ETHIOPIAN OUGHT TO ACCEPT IT REGARDLESS OF THEIR SO CALLED INITIAL INTENTIONS...BE IT OLF, ONC, TAND, ETC.ETC. THAT IS THE WRONG START TO BEING WITH FOR ALL OF US!!!