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Posted By: PM MELES Posted On: May 10, 2002 Views: 915	Divide & conquer Vs UNIT by FORCE & conquer To all dear IBD AMHARA every where:- Beer drinking, lazy ass, warmonger, power hungry Amhara happy to tell you divide and conquer is colonials agenda. But they will never tell you UNITY BY force also a colonials agenda. Nazi Germany wanted to unite the whole Europe by force... If unity is good THEN those European nations would not have rejected the idea of united Europe some 50 years ago? Why is it today united Europe is a HOT ISSUE? What is the different of Nazi TIME unity and today UNITY? Unity by force is as bad as divide and conquer ideology. If unity is to conquer and to colonize then unity by force or otherwise is not good. That is what happened with Eritrea. When Amhara trying hard to point out for us that the world is becoming united then and question our abused nations question to be free as same ideology as divided and conquer ideology of yesterday colonizer. Our humble answer to those drunk Amhara is the world is untied not because the powerful nation want to conquer the smaller nation or the powerful nation want to LOOT the other nation. European unity steam from their common interest. Just like Djibouti and Ethiopia working closely for their mutual benefit. Or the some ideology that was existed b/w Ethiopia and Eritrea from 1991 up to 1998.
Posted By: Yegermal Posted On: May 10, 2002 Views: 914	RE: Divide & conquer Vs UNIT by FORCE & conquer Are you telling us the relationship b/n Ethiopia and Ertrea was mutually benficiery? who had benifited in whose expense? who had it all, and who had abused it? When one analyse the issues like the ones that has listed above, the answer is vividely clear--- ERTREA WAS ONE BLOOD SUCKING PARACITE!!!!--- If you fail to see this, then you had been benifited out of this unhealthy partenership, and no wonder why your political analysis always incites a political unrest in Ethiopia and lacks a goodwill to Ethiopia. Why don't you give your Traditional Midwife advice to your native country --the so called single party democratic country with an applaudable recored of impresioning journalists, political opponants, with no tangible ecomnomical policy--- a country's main revenu since divorced from Ethiopia is the contribution from dispora--- the list is long...... What i would like to say is, Mind your own business! Ethiopia has its own sons and daughters, who are capable of finding workable soultion, with ethiopian ethicate, without the interferance of the like of yours. If you has not forgotten amharic ---Ye errgo Zennib Anfeligem !-- Ethiopia for Ethiopian, only!!!!
Posted By: PM MELES Posted On: May 11, 2002 Views: 911	RE: Divide & conquer Vs UNIT by FORCE & conquer Dear Yegermal, You ask: Are you telling us the relationship b/n Ethiopia and Ertrea was mutually beneficiary? Who had benefited in whose expense? Who had it all, and who had abused it? Your answer: your question can be seen in two views. Relationship b/w Ethiopia and Eritrea during the last 40 pulse years or the relationship between from 1991 up to 1998. You can tell if I am wrong or not ETHIOPIA was ONE BLOOD SUCKING PARACITE!!!!-(unhealthy partnership) for first 40 pulse years and ERTREA WAS ONE BLOOD SUCKING PARACITE!!!!{unhealthy partnership}- for second part of the years from 1991 up to 1998. Some IBD AMHARA like Yegermal, want to talk about the second part of "unhealthy partnership" forgetting the first part. In my view Eritrea and Ethiopia had the only healthy partnership for last 3000 years only from 1991 up to 1998. Yes there was TRADE WAR B/W Eritrea and Ethiopia... but the Amhara cry day and day out for more war and warmongering in their free press thanks for Meles... Now tell me Ethiopia only had break b/w 1991 and 1998 from WAR... THE TWO years war cost us 100,000 army and we lost 8 million people for Aids and hunger I must call 1991 up to 1998 healthy partnership because nobody die between that 8 years. IBD AMHARA support the deportation of 100,000 of Eritrea Ethiopians then tell how on earth Ethiopia loves Eritrea.. Amhara are all about port and LOOT.. THE will tell us how 100 million dollars Eritrean LOOT but lets do the math. Ethiopia spend 10 -20 billion dollars that she doesn't have to trying to stop Eritrea from LOOTING 100 million dollars a years... then pay the same 100 million dollars to Djibouti to have access to see while Ethiopia boycotting Assab free port. Trade War always there b/w two trading country. Japan and USA always at war meaning trade war... that does not mean they will kill each other soon... Ethiopia lazy Amhara must learn this and move on... About Eritrea main revenue since divorced from Ethiopia is the contribution from Diaspora--- the list is long. Answer:- At least Eritrea doesn't live from IMF AND WORLD BANK HANDOUT.. contribution form Diaspora is interest free soon or later those who live in Diaspora who contribute will see Eritrea grow at faster rate then Ethiopia while Ethiopia busy paying her interest on the billion dollars she took loan. While fewer then 100,000 Eritreans around the world contribute 10 million dollars 2 million Ethiopians only manage to contribute 100,000 dollars... this 100,000 once in 30 years while Eritrean contribute for last 40 years nonstop. I have nothing but respect to Eritreans and Eritrea... I am very proud to be Eritrean but I am Ethiopian then again those IBD Amhara calling me Eritrean for dare then to think... those Amhara keep on calling me Eritrean but when I call them IBD Amhara they call me I am hatemonger.. Then stop label me and I will stop label YOU. IBD Amhara only think healthy partnership if they are the one who are ruling the other. Then they call it a healthy partnership.
Posted By: Yegermal Posted On: May 11, 2002 Views: 906	RE: Divide & conquer Vs UNIT by FORCE & conquer Everybody is telling you to get lost! we are telling you time and time again not pastering our forum with your shallow and vindictive analysis! You admit that you are Ertrean, thus you are not allowing to dine with us and we had already washed our hand with you guys once and for all! try to comprehend this with that of your thick head, let me reiterate for you once more; rejection means you are not welcome. You are compleninig about the repateriation of your fellow Ertreans, Well god luck to them! but honestly speaking it is for us(Ethiopians) to choose how to fight and defend our country with every available means under our displosal, and I can reassure you that we are not making a single extra effort to please the like of yours, you came empty hand and you went empty hand.... You guys were the mite and flee of our old fixation, since you left we had stopped bothering about any foreign blood sucking paracites! Last but not least, why don't you lost from the face of earth with your ... arid and so called port with no practical use.... ... Almetame Kerehugne keanchi yetshal selagegnehunge.....
Posted By: PM MELES Posted On: May 11, 2002 Views: 904	RE: Divide & conquer Vs UNIT by FORCE & conquer Keep talking like this you are going to wash our hand from like of OROMO AND AGAME. BY THE WAY it is hard to answer my question? I figure out you are lazy and IBD AMHARA.
Posted By: jarsso Posted On: May 11, 2002 Views: 900	RE: Divide & conquer Vs UNIT by FORCE & conquer Please don't patrnoise me that OROMO has the same quest like that of yesteryear ERTEREA's quest. I am an Oromo and member of OLF, so I don't want anyone to hijack my cause and try be concened for me. Dear concerned Erterean stay at your own bay and don't try justify your alterior motive with my case. Speak for yourself!!!
Posted By: Dagne Posted On: May 12, 2002 Views: 895	RE: Divide & conquer Vs UNIT by FORCE & conquer dear Yigermal, PMmeles clearly tells you that he is an Ethiopian but according to him he would have been proud had he been Eritrea. this is what he said "I am very proud to be Eritrean but I am Ethiopian". in the context of what you two were arguing he is right. eritreans should be proud of themselves for their collective participation to help their country economically. please "don't kill the messenger".
Posted By: PM MELES Posted On: May 12, 2002 Views: 893	RE: Divide & conquer Vs UNIT by FORCE & conquer Dear Dagne, You 100% right one must be proud to be called an Eritrean. What is wrong being Eritrean? I have 100 reasons why I said what I said few of them I will write it down. 1. IBD Amhara proves their love for Ethiopia by hating other. You must hate Eritrea in order to LOVE Ethiopia. You must hate Arab in order to LOVE Ethiopia... you must hate ITLAYIAN, American, British, Russia, China, Somalia, Egypt, Sudan, Kenya, even you have to hate the whole Western and Africa to prove you love for mama Ethiopia. 2. You must support only one party, which is EDP, an Amhara party. If you support TPLF, OLF you are not Ethiopian. 3. If you don't believe Unity by any means. You are not an Ethiopian or you are anti Ethiopia 4. You must support a new WAR to retake Assab and Eritrea. 5. You must support the deportation of Eritrean Ethiopia but you must opposition the deportation of Amhara from Oromia then again you must support the deportation of Agame from Addis Ababa, 5, You must support one national language that national language must be Amhairc. One national flag that flag must be the dead king flag or Mr. Haile flags. 6. As an Ethiopian you must believe on centralized govt. that centralized govt. should be in Addis Ababa and control everyone... Gold and coffee belong to everyone as much as Nile River belongs to every Ethiopia. In this line of thinking then if we build airport in Agameland it belong to every one. If we took out loan and build Agame land the loan must belong to everyone because whatever built in Agameland belong to every Ethiopians. So one should have no problem if Meles build Agameland but Amhara have problem with that they want to build Addis Ababa at the expense of other city not the other way round. 7. EDP asks for freedom of speech for themselves by denying other people freedom of speech by labeling them Eritrean or anti Ethiopian. 8. I honestly believe many ethnic groups in Addis Ababa bought Amhara idea of unity and think what Meles doing is dividing people along Ethnic line. The many reason the give is people are married with each other and they don't want ethnic uprising... my answer to those people is an oromo who accept he is an Amhara and live by Amhara rule one accepted in old day Ethiopia. Today an Oromo can stand up and said whatever he wanted and enjoying his and her freedom... Why an Oromo lose his culture in order to accepted as an Ethiopian. Even American accepts African American language as official language Ebony. European unity is not beside on one language and destroying other cultures. 9. For an Amhara to reach power they want to use all means available even that means illegal. If Meles did something illegal but benefit the ideology of Amhara. Then all Amhara will support him even what Meles doing is illegal. Example when Meles deport 100,000 Eritrean Ethiopian almost all Amhara support him it would be hard to find even one who doesnt support Meles at that time. Sooner Meles sit and watch when oromo deported the same Amhara from Oromia. Now tell me what is wrong with those two picture The way I look at it Mass deportation is wrong. LOOTING what is belonging to deportee also wrong. For an Amhara it is not wrong to deport an Agame or an Eritreans even deporting separatist Oromo but it is wrong to deport an Amhara. 10. I can go and go but let me stop here by saying I am terrified of Amhara rule. They will take us to ENDLESS WAR. They will deny us freedom of speech. The will deny us freedom of religion. [Christian island] Amhara will deny us freedom of language. Amhara deny us freedom of flag. Amhara will deny us freedom of having federal system of governing. Amhara will deny us to be proud of who we are. Go to Harar you will have hard time finding one person who speaks only one language in Harar. Almost every one speak more then seven language. Why you may ask there is no one dominate language in Harar. The Somiala, The oromo, The Hdera, The Afar, The Amhara and the Arab all keep their language and culture as well as accepting other language and lived side up side. That kind of culture what I want for Ethiopia not one dominate language and one dominate culture. Now tell me if I am wrong.
Posted By: Bekahe Posted On: May 12, 2002 Views: 889	RE: Divide & conquer Vs UNIT by FORCE & conquer Where you have been,when Erterea deports my fellow Ethiopian in early '90's? why weren't you protest then? (if you really concerned about the wellbeing of .... our samaritan!!!!...) We had given you guys THE TEAST OF THEIR OWN MEDICEN, big time! ( Don't get me wrong I know two wrong doesn't cnstitute one....!)But the point is; we don't start something out of the blue, we just reciprocate what our ertrean counter parts loved to do against Ethiopian. Well even Mlese dare to create a biggest mockery of the time ... sending that shabby looking traitor Proffesor as part of observing team.... justifying ertrean action.Even if he also failed to the test time i.e. at the hight of the anymosity b/n the two countries, yes to our delight Melse drove your fellow country m/women like herd. Don't kick around the bush,it is cristal clear from your replies and articles that you hate with passion the GUT of Amhara and EDP. Take this; Ethiopia Shall live UNITED, and both Amhara and EDP will be the two pillars of this UNITY, to your dismay!!!!
Posted By: PM MELES Posted On: May 12, 2002 Views: 882	RE: Divide & conquer Vs UNIT by FORCE & conquer Bekahe, Eritrea deported that family of military that blood the murdered Eritrea for last 40 years. In case of Ethiopia the Eritreans were civil born and working in Addis Ababa. They are not military family. If you can't see the two different then I am sorry how on earth Ethiopia hurt Eritrea by sending her our human capital to Eritrea. There were doctor and engineers and businessperson and many young people that can build Ethiopia. By sending those people back to Eritrea Ethiopia herself finalized the Eritrean divorce. The lose divorce finalized thanks for Amhara short vision for our unity. If not for Amhara Eritrean and Ethiopian would have lived side by side by lose unwritten federation IBD Amhara such as Bekahe, really believe in what they are saying Ethiopia Shall live UNITED, and both Amhara and EDP will be the two pillars of this UNITY, to your dismay!!!! But if you ask those the same IBD Amhara what will take for UNITY the will have no clue. They accusing Eritrea blood sucking If you ask them Why they will tell you Eritrean LOOTING 100 MILLION DOLLARS A YEARS from Ethiopia Then if you answer back Ethiopia spend 10 billion dollars a year on War for last 40 years to keep Ertirea the why it wrong spending only 100 million dollars and keep Eritrea in lose UNITY. Then they will answer back Ha! If Eritrea is under Ethiopia they can take 100 million otherwise they will not get a cents then you will say how about free access to port that Ethiopia get from Eritrea They will tell the will get the same service from Djibouti for 100 million dollars. You see we reach where we started Ethiopia want to save 100 million dollars but give the same amount of money to Djibouti to get PORT access. As you can see there is no saving here. But if we allow the Eritrea to get 100 million dollars we not only get Assab we will get close friendship for long time to come. Our long blood relationship cut because of imaginary fear of Amhara Eritrean looting us. As you can see I am not accusing Eritrean looting because there is no prove Eritrea looting but for agreement sack I agree with the assumption and a go along with it and try to show how the argument doesnt hold water.
Posted By: Dagne Posted On: May 13, 2002 Views: 872	RE: Divide & conquer Vs UNIT by FORCE & conquer PM meles said "Eritrea deported that family of military" wrong! eritrea not only deported the family of the military but also civilians. as a matter of fact they confiscated their property while Ethiopia gave the eritreans the opportunity to sell their property. the only difference is while the eritrean government widely complained about it the woyane govt. went along with it as if it was ok. beside those eritreans denounced their Ethiopian citizenship by choice risking deportation at a time of war between the two nations (remember japanese americans in ww2). so woyane might have killed two birds with one stone when he expels those people 1) appease the ethiopian people (mainly the mainstream elite) 2) minimize their assistance to isayas from with in. PM meles seem to say it is better to let eritrea loot ethiopia 100 mil$ than spend 10bil$ to keep eritrea by force. well mathematically you are right. but how about spending the 100mil$ eritrea loots from ethiopia on other ports and spending 0$ on war by recognizing eritrea, while at the same time completely shutting the border with eritrea. we don't need close friendship with eritrea for many years what we need is peace and security from them. remember the main source of the recent war is the close relationship of two govts.