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Posted By: Jullie

Posted On: Apr 2, 2004
Views: 1051
PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS QUESTION!

I showed some one I was talking with the list of reasons why the Big Bang theory was correct (Taken from "Ask the Space Scientist") Quite frankly I am bad in science and math and such...but I know in my heart that the Big Bang theory is true. Anyway, the following is basically what she said in reply. If you could provide me with, or tell me where I could find, any information regarding what she says "proves the theory wrong". It would be GRATELY appreciated. Thank you so much, and sorry for any spelling errors.

"Are you aware that 2 planets in our solar system, 8 of the 91 moons, and even several galaxies rotate backwards, which defies the Conservation of Angular Momentum, if the universe were to begin in a spinning dot or something of the like and shoot out its masses? Also, if the earth is billions of years old (which is required in order for the big bang theory to be possible), can you explain the fact that the moon would be so close to the earth that it would be sucked into its gravitational pull. Like you stated earlier, the universe is expanding. With the rate that the moon is moving away from the earth and the distance between it and the earth right now, it is literally impossible for the earth to be billions of years old, therefore the big bang theory is also impossible."


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Apr 2, 2004
Views: 1049
RE: PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS QUESTION!

Your friend's questions are riddled with serious errors:

1) The DIRECTION of rotation of the moons and planets and galaxies has nothing to do with Conservation of Angular Momentum. The fact that they rotate at all is BECAUSE of the Conservation of Angular Momentum. The rotation is due to how the planets formed, nothing to do with the "universe were to begin in a spinning dot or something of the like and shoot out its masses". That is total nonsense bordering on sheer stupidity.

2) "Also, if the earth is billions of years old (which is required in order for the big bang theory to be possible), can you explain the fact that the moon would be so close to the earth that it would be sucked into its gravitational pull.".
Okay, so the moon was originally closer to the earth than it is now because it is gradually moving further away. So why does that mean that it must have been so close to the earth at some point that it would be drawn into it? Using the same crazy way of thinking there could be no planets or moons anywhere in the entire universe, they would all have been sucked into their parent star.
As a matter of interest, the moon was either formed out of a collision with another early forming planet (most likely) or was captured in passing (also possible but less favoured idea). Either way. the moon would be arrested at the appropriate distance from earth as determined by the laws of physics. Had it been any closer, for whatever reason, either captured or ejected, it would have never gone into earth orbit in the first place.

Your friend is clueless when it comes to cosmology.


Posted By: Julie

Posted On: Apr 5, 2004
Views: 1043
RE: PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS QUESTION!

Thank you very much for the explaination.


Posted By: Cherby

Posted On: Mar 3, 2005
Views: 864
RE: PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS QUESTION!

Don't you think it a bit odd though that where the moon is situated it protects us from meteors, acts as a reflector for the sun, affects the tide and nature and so on, in fact affects our whole civilisation. A tad closer to us and would be sucked into our gravitational pull and a tad away and would spin off onto another course. Jupiter also acts as a giant protector to the earth from meteors and the like. We are just close enough to the Sun to feel the warmth and have light and therefore to thrive, and yet not too far away to freeze and be in darkness. It all seems a bit too perfect to me to have come about by an explosion and too much of a coincidence. There was a bang and hey presto a perfect environment for life.!! I am not saying that "God" created it but I am just saying that the Big Bang theory seems a bit far fetched.
Anyway as I said in a different thread, if there was really a big bang then what created that, and then if it were gases, then what created the gases and you can go on forever until at some point you think - there MUST have been a beginning somewhere - but then, what created that!!!!


Posted By: Nesa

Posted On: Sep 2, 2005
Views: 798
RE: PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS QUESTION!

Well, if there weren't for that "perfect enviroment", life on Earth simply wouldn't exist. The enviroment isn't perfect because of us, because we exist, but we exist because of those perfect conditions. Simple enough, if the conditions, weren't good, we wouldn't exist here. Maybe we would live on an other planet, in some other corner of the universe... and would it be us really? ...but that's just hypothetical

Nebojsa Mrmak


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Sep 3, 2005
Views: 796
RE: PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS QUESTION!

Nesa.
You are looking at this backwards.
The conditions on earth do not just happen 'to be perfect' for us.
We evolved on this planet and have evolved from the existing environment, the environment helped mould us.
It is therefore not at all surprsing that the conditions suit us, it could not be any other way, or we would not have survived at all.


Posted By: Nesa

Posted On: Sep 3, 2005
Views: 794
RE: PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS QUESTION!

Keith,
That's exactly what I tried to say in that post :)
We evolved because the conditions were very good (i doubt complex life forms could evolve in vacuum and in too high/low temperatures). Then we "got used to" the enviroment as time passed and our species evolved.

I believe that there is life on other planets and that it exists because the inital conditions were met, and i'm saying that it's very unlikely that the enviroment was tailored to fit us.

English isn't my native language, so that's probably why i didn't make my point in the first post :)

Nesa


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Sep 4, 2005
Views: 791
RE: PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS QUESTION!

Okay Nesa, no problem, we are both saying the same thing.


 

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