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Posted By: Rob

Posted On: Dec 28, 2004
Views: 2023
What is nothing !!

Hi all ive read keiths book a dozen times and have just fininshed stephen hawkings "theory of everything" and im drawn to the hot big bang model as a very good and more than likely theory. BUT what is the nothing that caused it? ive read so-many times about this nothing-ness buisness and its always left at just that,like a passing thought or something, im a little fed up when reading brilliant minded peoples books, that they never seem to explain what nothing is, stephen hawking said that we have no need to delve into what caused the big bang !! HANG ON A MINUTE yes we do, you cant explain a brilliant theory without a hint of what nothing is and how it could of started?
was it just a black void of space? it cant be space though as i thought the big bang started that?, would it of been black?
a build up of gases? or energy?
once again i thought the bb started that?
so what was it like ? any ideas ?
Come no keith


Posted By: rob

Posted On: Dec 29, 2004
Views: 2014
RE: What is nothing !!

blimey has the world recollapsed already? where is everyone?
i think this must be what nothing is like ...lol


Posted By: Helms O

Posted On: Jan 12, 2005
Views: 2001
RE: What is nothing !!


I do'nt think it has been proven yet that nothing exists.I mean there is no such thing as a perfect vacuum.There is only such a thing as something that's less dense.Even space is full of cosmic rays and electrons not to mention photons and neutrinos and also radiation and gravity.Therefore nothing does'nt exist. Does that answer your question?


Posted By: Little Eddie

Posted On: Jan 13, 2005
Views: 1997
RE: What is nothing !!

There are multible universes. The one we are in has (at least) 11 dimensions (for string theory to work). Other universes have other dimensions.
One theory states that our universe started (big bang) when two or more universes collided. It explains why gravity is so weak (it leaks in from one or more of the other universes).

This is an interesting theory and explains alot.

Then again we could just be a figment of someones imagination


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Jan 13, 2005
Views: 1995
RE: What is nothing !!

What we consider to be reality may be nothing more than a figment of OUR imagination.


Posted By: rob

Posted On: Jan 17, 2005
Views: 1989
RE: What is nothing !!

hi helms you said in your answer to my question that space itself has lots of stuff etc, and i understand what your saying but the theory claims to be telling us that the bb started space,time etc etc, its being drawn back to a single atom, i guess we will have to wait for a better understanding of quantum mechanics.

it just annoys me and confuses me when people like hawking say it comes from nothing-ness. very weird.



Posted By: Red

Posted On: Jan 22, 2005
Views: 1978
RE: What is nothing !!

When you look into the night sky and see blackness, it's not a colour, it's abscense of colour. Our eyes are designed to pick up light, and when there is none, they show our brain what we call "Black".
So yes, theoretical nothing would be black to the human eye.


Posted By: rob

Posted On: Jan 23, 2005
Views: 1974
RE: What is nothing !!

hi red, yeah good point about the colour thing, maybe "nothing" is the infinate mind of god with the universe contained with in it.


Posted By: Conor

Posted On: Feb 10, 2005
Views: 1962
RE: What is nothing !!

To Rob:

Are you proposing that we are all inside God's mind? Then again does god have a mind. I do not think the Human mind was meant to delve this far into science


Posted By: rob

Posted On: Feb 10, 2005
Views: 1959
RE: What is nothing !!

hi conor, no im not proposing anything but if we are all in someway connected as in atoms etc, then maybe just maybe we must be ALL a part of the same thing, one big entity, maybe WE are god as a whole or maybe we exist in only gods mind.


Posted By: rob

Posted On: Feb 10, 2005
Views: 1958
RE: What is nothing !!

i personally think that there will be an answer and as ive said in some other posts, it maybe a 10year mathmatical sum etc and the answer and outcome will be so very simple.


Posted By: cherby

Posted On: Mar 3, 2005
Views: 1931
RE: What is nothing !!

Nothing must be something must'n it?
I mean, lots of people have talked about the Big Bang that created the whole universe, and that gases etc were the cause of that, BUT, where did the gases come from , and where ever they came from - where did THEY come from and so on and so on.
I cannot comprehend that the very first nutron or what ever has ALWAYS been there- as Stephen Hawkins put's it. It must have had a beginning and I can't help but think that what ever the beginning was, SOMETHING must have created it in the first place. Call it God if you want, i don't personally believe in any religion or God type character but I do think that somehow at some point something MUST have created something in order for the nothing to have created the Big Bang that created the Universe!!
I also think that mathematical equasions here on earth are not as relevent in space. I don't think you can really apply that until we are fully out there and we are still at caveman level when it come to space exloration or understanding.
And Time??? - I think man created that.


Posted By: Evan

Posted On: Mar 23, 2005
Views: 1897
RE: What is nothing !!

Ok, i don't konow if you guys want to hear this or do want to but your subconcious feels like it but you feel this is a junk-theory...lol...i just turned 13 and is in precalculus and definitely astronomy and physics, so i stumbled on about where the heck did the gases come from!!? Ive read books and stuff and came to a little theory...what if there was a universe where particles would've existed and the same thing happened, there was some kind of...whatever...happened and the particles were born then the universe contracted...making the universe extremely hot setting of the explosion. Then billions of years from now, after we died of pollution, our own nukes, or those aliens from independence day, the universe contracts and shabang...again. then a few billion years later life forms form. But that is just my thought which is not real because reality doesn't make sense, making it a non-real reality show for a different universe.


Posted By: Evan

Posted On: Mar 23, 2005
Views: 1893
RE: What is nothing !!

If i could prove my theory to the whole world, that would be the greatest thing in my life... but if they get all picky and get on me about the universe before that, i would be ****ed that i proved the biggest theory in the world and now they want something else from me...


Posted By: rob

Posted On: Mar 26, 2005
Views: 1885
RE: What is nothing !!

great points, what came before, what came before, what came before, etc, etc....lol
its enough to make you go mad like me.

im always trying to picture it and after all the years of reading and research i still come to this>> what if there wasnt a "cause", maybe our universe is just simply contained within nothing, it could be a big bang cycle,expand and contract,"nothing" would therefore be unaware that it contained the universe.


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