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Posted By: ߃==¹¹

Posted On: Nov 24, 2002
Views: 2194
There Never was a Big Bang

Simply put;

The Big Bang is a Purely human concept. for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

The Universe is a blackbody radiator, The planar related 2.7°K Microwave Background Radiation is the total flux opposite of all Universal, point related gravity.

This occurs according to the Law of the Redistribution of Energy that states that all energy flows from a higher level, to a lower level, which is the Cosmic Background Radiation in Universal terms.

This is at the neutral center of the electromagnetic spectrum, at about 10¹²Hz.and the 2.7°K opposes total gravitational collapse.

The Big Bang and associated physics is a false concept, that never happened.

Just as there are polar opposites in magetism (N & S ), electricity (+ & -), The Polar opposite of point related gravity, is planar related Levity, or the Cosmic Background Radiation on a Univeral, Infinite scale.

It occurs everywhere, all at once, and not concentrated a gravity, it's polar opposite is.


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Nov 24, 2002
Views: 2191
RE: There Never was a Big Bang

The Big Bang is of course, as you say, a ‘human concept’, just as any theory is, so why raise it as an issue for trying to undermine it?
I don’t see your point about equal and opposite reaction in the context of the Big Bang. The theory makes no attempt to ‘justify’ itself with any opposite reaction, as that is clearly impossible.
You describe the Universe as ‘a black body radiator’, but this is totally incorrect. The Universe is unable to radiate to anywhere else, and so does not radiate anything at all.
The Universe can be described as the perfect blackbody, filled with perfect black body radiation (left over from the Big Bang). The MBR at 2.7 K is interpreted as direct evidence of the Big Bang fireball, with MBR generated as a result of the primordial hydrogen partly converting into helium when the fireball was filled with hot, short-wavelength black body radiation, in the form of X-rays, and gamma rays. As the Universe has expanded the radiation has reduced in temperature and increased in wavelength. Redshifted in other words.
When you say “The planar related 2.7°K Microwave Background Radiation is the total flux opposite of all Universal, point related gravity.” I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. The same goes for your other remarks, I can make no sense of them.
Your unusual ideas probably explain why you say “The Big Bang and associated physics is a false concept, that never happened.”
That is some statement to make, especially without proposing an alternative to the Big Bang, and an alternative to 'associated physics', which include: Relativity, Quantum Mechanics, Thermodynamics, Entropy, Nuclear Interactions, Electromagnetism, Star and Galaxy formation, and Gravity.
No doubt you have it all worked out?
Please, no need to explain all your theories to us, we believe you, okay?
Keith


Posted By: Geoff

Posted On: Dec 5, 2002
Views: 2176
RE: RE: There Never was a Big Bang

"Polar opposite of point related gravity, is planar related Levity, or the Cosmic Background Radiation on a Univeral, Infinite scale"

What a nutter (or perhaps the next Einstein)!


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Dec 5, 2002
Views: 2174
RE: There Never was a Big Bang

Hi Geoff,
Well they do say that it's a fine line between insanity and genius, so perhaps we should be kind and give him the benefit of the doubt?
On the other hand.....


Posted By: Carl Rofe

Posted On: Jan 1, 2003
Views: 2147
RE: RE: RE: There Never was a Big Bang

What concept is staring you in the face, but won't give itself away?
That fact that everything is pre-determined!
Wondering where that came from?
Take quantum cosmology and apply advanced multi-dimensional logic, and you are one step closer to the "holy grail" than the rest of the world! Doesn't it make you shivveerr!?
To know some people take years while only a fraction of the world can actually understand what most wouldn't want to, in 5 minutes!
I hate to say it, but you're getting a cold!


Posted By: Carl Rofe

Posted On: Jan 2, 2003
Views: 2145
RE: There Never was a Big Bang

Aah...me and my big mouth again (oops!)
Okay...The universe (or whatever) is all there is...right!? So where does the idea of outside the universe come from? If the universe is expanding, there should be a dimensional potential difference!? This energy doesn't come from nowhere, so where then?


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Jan 2, 2003
Views: 2140
RE: There Never was a Big Bang

Carl,
I think it time you took your 'multi-dimensional logic', stuffed it into your 'dimensional potential difference' and shoved it into your 'pre-determined quantum cosmology'.
Got the message super-brain?


Posted By: Mikeboy

Posted On: Jan 2, 2003
Views: 2136
RE: RE: There Never was a Big Bang

lol this is completely over my head

It all sounds very interesting tho - Im reading everything I can find, trying to make sense of it all ;)


Posted By: Carl Rofe

Posted On: Jan 2, 2003
Views: 2133
RE: There Never was a Big Bang

I said before i thought, my fault! Ok?
Sorry about getting wordy, those are the words in the book: Newton: Graphic Science, first edition, sept-oct 2000.
it's got a lot of good reading. It would help many people, i think. Leave you now.


Posted By: ߃==¹¹

Posted On: Mar 19, 2003
Views: 2058
RE: RE: RE: There Never was a Big Bang

http://community.webtv.net/WF11/AdynamicGeneral
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Posted By: yicheng

Posted On: Jun 2, 2003
Views: 2028
RE: There Never was a Big Bang

Dead link!


Posted By: ߃--¹¹

Posted On: Jun 3, 2003
Views: 2023
RE: There Never was a Big Bang

Works as posted.
http://community.webtv.net/WF11/ADynamicGeneral

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Posted By: john - www.thishumancondition.com

Posted On: Dec 27, 2003
Views: 1953
RE: There Never was a Big Bang

the concept of time starting at the big bang is contradictory in itself. nothing could have happened if there was no time to allow it to happen.


Posted By: Jason

Posted On: May 12, 2005
Views: 1741
RE: There Never was a Big Bang

The problem is that most representations start from a defined point and project in on direction for 15 billion years. Would it not explode or expand spherically? If so then the point of center to where we are would be on the leading edge so the opposite edge would be 30 billion years away. Unless it exploded from an imovable wall in a half circle wich would still have to opposite sides at 30 bil. distance. That is if the expulsion were extremely equal, if it varied by the smallest amount then there would be varied distances from the initial point. The universe is finite if it was infinite then it would still be exploding, because aN INFINATE AMOUNT OF MATTER would require an infinit time and we would not be here pondering this question


Posted By: Kyle Harrington

Posted On: Aug 17, 2005
Views: 1360
RE: There Never was a Big Bang

With the whole using Newton's Law to dismiss ideas of the big bang, you are way off the mark, Mr., "Big Bang never happened!"
"Every action has an equal and opposite reaction." This much I believe is true, however as the effects of "the big bang" are still said to be continuing and showing no signs to slow down, then once stopped it will happen in reverse (the crunch theory.)
The cause of the big bang would have to be the previous crunch. Energy does not disappear, it merely transforms into a different type. All the energy that goes back into the bang from the crunch will cause exactly the same things over.
Time, therefore is infinite in that it doesn't have a beginning or an end. But if the big bang to big crunch is continous, and energy does not disappear, then everything will happen exactly the same again. Down to the last detail that is. Even down to you and me. There is no way that there was absolutely nothing before the "big bang" occured, and the singularity that caused the universe just appeared, and that nothing existed before, because as I said, energy is infinite. It competes with time. The concept of energy and time are man discovered, but not man made fiction, for both are accurate in describing things. Measurements are real, despite being man made. If you were to say a theory was not real due to it being a man made concept, would this cause you to question the reality of television or bread? Are they real? Yes. Are they man made? yes.
The only thing wrong with the idea of time is that people think of infinity as a straight line when it is in fact circular, depending of course on whether or not anything like the big bang happened. Think of it as a loop and you will not go wrong.
This does not mean that there is more than one universe in history, for it is the same one playing over and over like a song on repeat played on a cd player.
Biology would support my idea in terms of energy not dying, even if it is waisted it is still there. All of the sun's energy is used or waisted. When we die, that energy is used or waisted.
Psychology also proves this idea as everything we do leaves a mark on everything we touch, and spreads throughout their thoughts and actions.

In conclusion, I Kyle Harrington have decided that the big bang probably could have happened, based purely on scientific discoveries and hypothesies, that the big crunch will happen if the big bang did, that this will cause more big bangs and crunches due to energy not disappearing, that time is infinitely spherical, and that we are songs on a cd.

I, by the way am not a scholar of universities or even colleges. I work in retail, and study the school of life. If any one has any decent arguments to my views, email them if they want a debate, or dismiss them as garbage. All I can say is there is no way of proving me wrong in this life time, so :p

From the great Kyle Harrington.
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