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| Posted By: Matt Posted On: Apr 9, 2006 Views: 1823 | .999 to 1 to get this cleared up .9999999 does not equal 1 but .999999 repeating does equal 1. |
| Posted By: True Citizen of the World Posted On: Apr 10, 2006 Views: 1818 | RE: .999 to 1 Matt you are right. We call it "recurring" 0.999 recurring equals 1. |
| Posted By: Grant Posted On: Apr 11, 2006 Views: 1810 | RE: .999 to 1 Yes that is right True Citizen of the World we do call it 'recurring' but we certainly don't call it 'rounding-up'. Which is why 0.999' does not equal 1. |
| Posted By: True Citizen of the World Posted On: Apr 11, 2006 Views: 1808 | RE: .999 to 1 Grant comes again with his homemade theories. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Apr 11, 2006 Views: 1805 | RE: .999 to 1 Looks like the lunatics are back, increase power to shields to 100% |
| Posted By: Owen T Posted On: Aug 1, 2006 Views: 1746 | RE: .999 to 1 This to me looks like one of those times where an idiot teacher has said something that is not true, but because we are the student we believe them because obviously the teacher is always right....not. It ****es me off the amount of times this happens some teacher's should definitely be shot...My gf thought that you started paying tax when you where aged 16 and working, totally blind about the little thing called personal allowance - all because a teacher at school had told her....Obviously I set her straigh, after all the teacher had probably just thought it obvious that nobody under 16 would be earning over £5km being in school and what not....But my gf took it to mean that if you were working when you were 16 you started paying tax, irrespective of how much you earned (clearly wrong). Anyway back on track...lol she also thought hair was still alive!! lol! erm....oh yeah....my thoughts are that Keith has been told by this teacher that 0.999' does not equal 1, whereas most if not all for argument's sake of other maths teachers would say that 0.999' equals 1. Keith I know you don't want to spend anymore time on the subject, but, if you could possibly find time just to get a 2nd opinion of someone with better knowledge of maths than yourselve and see what they have to say? What've you got to lose? If they say 0.999' is not equal to 1 and you copy the email into the message boards then I for one will be happy to drop it and accept that as fact. If however they say 0.999' = 1 then what has happened? Surely if someone with a PHD in maths says that 0.999' equals 1 and can prove it I'm not going to argue with them! Anyways its getting late...4:20am...so am off to bed nite!!!!! |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Aug 1, 2006 Views: 1743 | RE: .999 to 1 Owen T, Stop being silly and trying to make out you are clever, it isn't working. 0.9 is less then 1 0.99 is less then 1 0.999 is less then 1 0.9999 is less then 1 0.99999 is less then 1 0.999999 is less then 1 It doesn't matter how long I continue, it will always be less then 1. At no point when I keep adding 9's will the 0 before the decimal point magically change to 1 and all the figures to the right of the decimal point all magically vanish. Any equation that you think proves otherwise only goes to show your lack of understanding of even the most basic principles of mathematics. Just because your teacher told you so (as posted by you in another thread) does not make it right. A point you make about me in your post above. What a dumb hypocrite you are! |
| Posted By: Owen T Posted On: Aug 2, 2006 Views: 1741 | RE: RE: .999 to 1 LMAO....I'm not trying to make out I'm clever...In fact I'm not claiming to know anything about maths whatsoever. All I am saying is that because I was intrigued by the "problem" I consulted with websites to find out which was true...0.999' equal to 1 or not. As it happens I couldn't find anybody to say that 0.999' doesn't equal 1, everyone seems to say it does...So for now that's what Il accept as true, there's really no need for the name calling, its an easy way to make hesitant about posting anything, for fear of being called something by yourself, and I'm sure that's not what you want is it? You didn't answer my question either Keith, what level of knowledge in maths do you have? A degree yeah? |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Aug 2, 2006 Views: 1736 | RE: .999 to 1 I know there are lots of web sites that give a mathematical proof that 0.999' = 1. That is not the point. Simply juggling around with figures does not alter the basic fact that 0.(anything) is less than 1. It's really that simple. Complicated mathematical 'proofs' do not change that very simple basic fact. What difference does it make what qualifications I have? Does that in some strange way either weaken my argument or strengthen it? My argument stands on its own feet, as does everyone else who posts here. I NEVER ask what qualifications a poster has, I don't see the relevance.It's the argument that counts! |
| Posted By: Owen T Posted On: Aug 2, 2006 Views: 1734 | RE: .999 to 1 If it's the argument that counts, then why do you give no respect to those that have opposing views to your own, yet equally valid arguments? |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Aug 9, 2006 Views: 1727 | RE: .999 to 1 Allow me to explain why 0.9999' is not equal to 1.0 In its simplest terms it is because fractions are exact and decimals are not when it comes to fractions that do not divide exactly. For example: 3/4 is exactly three quarters of the whole and can be expressed as 0.75. The two in this example are the same. 1/3 is exactly one third of the whole and can be expressed as 0.3333'. However, the two are not the same. 1/3 is exact, the decimal notation is not, it is merely as close as it can get. We can say that 0.3333' REPRESENTS 1/3, but in fact is not exactly 1/3 because it does not exactly divide, there is always a small remainder. It is the same with 0.9999', it represents 1 because it is as close as the decimal can possibly get in this instance, but is not exactly one. Simply because juggling around using algebra makes it appear as if the two are the same is not the same as actually being the same. I hope I have made my point clear. |
| Posted By: Anon Posted On: Aug 13, 2006 Views: 1721 | RE: .999 to 1 RE: Keith Mayes: 0.9 is less then 1 0.99 is less then 1 0.999 is less then 1 0.9999 is less then 1 0.99999 is less then 1 0.999999 is less then 1 .......................... 0.999' is more than 0.9 0.999' is more than 0.99 0.999' is more than 0.999 0.999' is more than 0.9999 0.999' is more than 0.99999 At no point when you keep adding 9's does it magically change to 0.999' either. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Aug 13, 2006 Views: 1719 | RE: .999 to 1 Ys, I totally agree with you. 0.999' will always be more than 0.999..... (whatever), while there is a finite number of nines after the decimal point. It never at any point becomes 0.999'. Yes this is the same as my argument, just in reverse That is why 0.999' will always be less then one. |
| Posted By: Omen Posted On: Oct 27, 2006 Views: 1688 | RE: .999 to 1 Wow, I am amazed that this subject is even an argument. I think some of these people have never heard of the word "precision". 1 is a very precise number. Just as 0.9, 0.99, 0.999 etc. are all precise. No matter how many 9's your throw at the end it only changes the precision of the number. Infact, tossing on a bunch of 9's to infinity does nothing more than make the number more of a joke than ever since infinity isn't real to begin with. Have you ever heard of someone precisy measuring infinity??? So I would like to know in what reality does 1 = 0.99999'? |
| Posted By: Ot Posted On: Oct 28, 2006 Views: 1686 | RE: .999 to 1 omen...the argument was dead and buried years ago...unless you hadn't noticed any of the dates that the last posts wer posted...neways u mite like to have a look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0.999 start editing that to match your (rare) beliefs and start a flamewar for all i care... |
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