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| Posted By: Ma Posted On: Dec 31, 2009 Views: 1995 | Is there a God? Is there a God? iF Yes, what is God? If No, what then? |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Jan 2, 2010 Views: 1993 | RE: Is there a God? It isn't of course factually possible to know if there is a God or not. Even if there is, it is factually impossible to say if He actually does anything or instead has a policy of non-interference. As personally I am unable to see any evidence of God doing anything (I know others would argue) I can't see that it makes a scrap of difference one way or the other whether or not He exists. As for those that "believe" in God only as an insurance policy because not to may result in them going to hell, I would just like to point out that if God exists then being all knowing He would easily see through your pretence and send you to hell for not being a true believer and living a lie. If there is a heaven and you want to get there, then you have to believe, really believe, not try and make yourself believe. I can't be arsed with it all that bloody nonsense. If there is a God then He knows where I am coming from, loves me anyway, and I end up in heaven getting bored out of my skull. You can't win. |
| Posted By: Frank Posted On: Nov 12, 2010 Views: 1707 | RE: Is there a God? The question "is there a God" is perhaps better formulated by the question "Is there a creator" or ""is there a designer". Any such entity would have to be Eternal, having no beginning. If there was ever a time when the was nothing... I mean absolutely nothing .. no energy, no matter.. no other 'stuff' that we might currently not know about.. no consciousness .. NOTHING... then what would we have today?.... yes.. you've got it! .. NOTHING... Never in all of our understanding has anyone postulated what seems to be an absurdity.. that Something spontaneously (or gradually, for that matter), came into existance from NOTHING. Yet here we are!!!! so there has never been a time when NOTHING existed. Something exists which is eternal. The question is : Is this something intelligent or unintelligent. Which is most likely when we contemplate the laws that govern our universe?. which is more likely when we contemplate DNA. Which is more likely when we contemplate the quality of self sacrifice and love found within human society? |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Nov 13, 2010 Views: 1704 | RE: Is there a God? These questions regarding a creator are of course fascinating but ultimately unanswerable, we cannot prove or disprove the existence of a creator. However, I would agree that something coming from nothing would appear to be impossible, which as you say leaves the other option that something must have always existed. Whether or not this something was intelligent and was the creator is a matter of personal choice and faith. |
| Posted By: Pachomius Posted On: Apr 13, 2011 Views: 1580 | RE: Is there a God? Yes, there is a God creator of everything that exists that is not Himself. Otherwise there is no system, meaning no stability and order, the nose in our face will not stay put. Let me define the universe as the whole totality of existence which is composed of two categories of things -- as opposed to nothing. One category is God the creator of everything else that is not Himself God. The other category is everything else created by God. Now, if you remove the category that is not God, then the universe can still exists as the whole totality of existence of one entity, God. If you however remove the entity that is God, then the whole totality of existence becomes nothing, literally nothing, meaning absolute nothing. However if you insist that without God creator everything can continue to exist, then you have just without admitting it defined everything as God the creator of everything that is not God Himself. So, you are just denying God the creator and then bringing Him in again by redefining everything that is not God as God creator. And that is what atheist scientists and atheists generally are doing when they say that the universe comes from nothing, then they define nothing as something, but never absolute nothing. That something that they understand though though with a winking eye is therefore God creator of everything that is not Himself God. The proper study of atheists as atheists whatever philosophers, scientists, ordinary atheists, is their psychology, not their ideas, their motivation to deny God, not their system of the universe understood as the whole totality of existence. For without God creator there is no system of the universe as the whole totality of existence. You will notice that people who deny God are possessed by anger and hatred born from defiance. Why are they defiant? Because they don't want to admit the truth of God's existence. And why not? Because they see in God an oppositor to all the things they want to do and they already are doing. Pachomius |
| Posted By: Jim Posted On: Aug 11, 2011 Views: 1494 | RE: Is there a God? Of course there is a one and only God. God exists in this world he created and the world of God which is totally illogical to mankind. There is no use in discussing the world of God, because all physical laws we know of and the ones we have yet to discover are total falsehoods. It would be as if we lived in a world with 2 dimensions, width and length, and tried to explain a sphere to someone,except that God's world would be even more incomprehensible than that. Math, gravity. galaxies, etc probably don't even exist there because those things are in this world that God created. You would not even ask who or what created God's world because that would be OUR logical question. Remember our logic does not work in the world of God which is ouside this world we live in which God created. |
| Posted By: Adam Outlaw Posted On: Nov 21, 2011 Views: 1438 | RE: Is there a God? If by the word God one means the first creative force of all or any universes then...vary likely yes. Creative forces are everywhere and quite observable, such as life organizing itself, gravity doing its thing or light predictably acting. One may take such things or events for granted as "normal" but why would the clockwork order of chemistry, etc be a natural byproduct of chaos? Why do particles of stuff keep doing what their doing if not for some type of memory print? I believe all particles have a history and act upon the present due to an encoded or created past in them. DNA is a even better example of some sort of directed memory data manifesting in the present with knowledge/attributes to help it keep manifesting further...right? Perhaps God is not necessarily all knowing or powerful and micro-managing... maybe God was/is just the first drive or awareness opposed to pure nothingness. Other words because something-ness observably exist one could conclude absolute nothingness only exist as an engine or potential to be filled by creation perpetuating itself. The moment something views/acts upon nothing the nothingness is then observed/defined and the continuation of acting forces keep making stuff from nothing. Two objects seem not to occupy the same space otherwise they become a new combined object and perhaps thats the only reason we realize differences in this universe at all. Also the mind creates novel new ideas and since ideas can be remembered and transfered they too likely hold mass and weight. If the human mind that supposedly came from chaos can "create" new matter in this universe then why not something way before us like God? If something or someone creates something new it should still be influenced by the things around it and before it... hence we are likely the products of earlier creators and those creators perhaps by one God point creator. This God point could only define by mirroring itself because thats all at one point their was. Once God made a second in its image this "directed action" necessity created a spherical light or the simplest 2-D form of contrast imaginable then. This second object by default made distance/time possible because now their was another object to see, etc. This second God object was exactly like the first and could make its own object and so on to infinity. This geometric explosion of creation/viewpoints in space is what us modern humans call the big bang theory. As objects had more variables they/early creators concluded many new conditions and games. This God point cannot be perceptibly located by time because it did not directly create time and many of the elements we currently use to calculate time have arbitrary orders assigned to them mainly because of this. The one true God (I reason) only created the totality of God's self into another. This other/self by accident of being projected as an object by God... made time, space or distance between objects, beginnings of geometry and second dimensional reality, etc. To clarify I reason God never intended the creation of time it just happened as a result of this pure division intention. This I also believe was the genesis of a subconscious mind/reaction chance universe potentials. This extra bit that God or others never intend but happen anyway is the freewill chaos element in harmony with the intended fated creation element. Without some element of freewill/randomization no true purpose could exist. Without "potential nothingness" creation would own all and fate would be the only conclusion. Without some choice or chaos nothing would be true or ideal or actual accomplishment... right? It would be a universe of pure force and we would all be puppets who somehow figured out what puppets shouldn't know to begin with... yeah right! If God exist and that seem vary probable to me, then God would want the same for us as God's self...right? By my reasoning God must because God could only make an exact copy of God's self anyhow. Everything else is a game or effect of others games. As one progresses towards higher controlled creation one makes ones "life/s" better by shear responsibility of ones causes vs others effects. One need not strive for 100% perfection because then no more cause will happen when reached. Too little control/proper responsibility= pain and suffering. Too much control or perfection= lack of purpose/suffering. Vary good but not perfect control/creation= true heaven and what I believe Gods only and single best creation is/was. Timeless infinity for all creative creatures;) |
| Posted By: Emile Posted On: Dec 22, 2012 Views: 1281 | RE: RE: RE: RE: Is there a God? God as we know him/it doesn't exist. God was created in the image of humanity not the other way round. There are many fundamental questions which we ask in science, such as where did we come from and how did the universe begin. These are very important questions which should be logically thought about using our current knowledge, but religion uses God to attempt to answer these questions, a simple answer to explain everything. But we should not be so foolish as to think that there is a simple answer to everything and we should be intelligent enough to admit that it is very unlikely we will ever know everything there is possible to know. But we should at least try to find out as much as we can using scientific studies and research not religion. |
| Posted By: Keith Graham Mayes Posted On: Dec 22, 2012 Views: 1167 | RE: Is there a God? I agree that God in all probability does not exist and is a concept devised by man, however we cannot be certain this is so. We still have a lot of questions to answer in trying to understand the universe we live in and may never know all the answers. Perhaps only God could know everything. |
| Posted By: Jamshad Ahmad Posted On: Jul 19, 2013 Views: 1119 | RE: Is there a God? Such a ridiculous question and most of the answers. There surely is a Creator . if you are curious for proof just watch patiently www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-KKHodMrto‎ |