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| Posted By: phil Posted On: Feb 22, 2005 Views: 1430 | life after death i disagree with your views on life after death about humans not being differnet from animals, we are not just because of evoloution, humans arethe only creatures that question wether ther is a god or are aware that there is. |
| Posted By: suns Posted On: Apr 4, 2005 Views: 1417 | RE: life after death I disagree, we can question whether there is a god because we have the brain capacity, just like a primate can use simple tools, and other animals cannot |
| Posted By: Thommy Posted On: Jan 20, 2006 Views: 1339 | RE: life after death I agree with "suns" because it is by chance we are all here reading this message now. So whatever is givin to us by random or chance (such as our brain) we use it as would a donkey if they had one. |
| Posted By: Rob Posted On: Aug 14, 2008 Views: 991 | RE: life after death There will never be an answer to this whilst you are alive - sorry to let you know this in such a blunt way. However - What happens when we die? To answer what happens when we die is not a difficult question to attempt, as taking away any preconceived ideas and taking away any prior knowledge is easy as there is very little known on the subject by anybody. There is one very obvious fact associated with the life and death of every human being on this planet; this is that every human being who is alive on this planet now has at one time been dead before. This is if you can look upon being unborn, as being dead. I personally cannot see the difference between being not yet born and being dead. Unless I am mistaken, if you are not alive on planet earth or any other planet for that matter then you must be dead. If being dead and unborn are the same thing then we should all remember what it was like when we were not alive before. My recollection of this experience of not being alive is nothing whatsoever, this implies that time and thought are nonexistent in this dead state. When a person dies, people who are alive can view them as being in a state of deadness, however from the dead persons perspective this cannot be the case as they are not even in a status, they have resumed the unborn status they came from originally which cannot be that bad else nature would not allow it, what would be the point. The dead person is no longer here anymore; their current state is of no consequence to themselves. The body they leave behind is just a shell of their once existence and their brain waves collapse to no longer function. All knowledge of existence is lost, memories within your head are lost and consciousness is no longer a phenomena. Has the dead person actually left behind the universe and all their friends and history? As far as the dead person is concerned they have not left them behind, as their memory of this now they are dead is nonexistent. But, from a live persons perspective their memories of the dead person live on in their minds. A question put to me was that if your mother met with another man other than your father, would you still be the same person but look different. My view here is that you would not have ever existed, and would be none the wiser for it. The actual truth of the matter is that an unsuccessful sperm was actually alive at one time; but did it have consciousness and thought? Possibly on a different plain and to a different degree, yes, but no awareness of surroundings or ability to reason just swim hard. The fact of the matter is that when a human being is born, it is whatever it becomes at that time. Let us for a moment imagine a mother has just conceived and for the next nine months has two choices available to her. There are two doors to enter, each which contain nine months supply of food. She chooses a door at random and eats the food in this room for nine months and then has the baby. Would this baby be the same baby and think and be conscious the same if the mother choose to enter the other door and nurture the baby on a totally different but similar food source? Somehow my instinct says yes it would be the same baby, just as you are the same person you were when you were 2 two years old. Now imagine that a lady has a choice of two doors to choose a partner, following this she then has a choice of two doors to choose the food for nine months. My instinct tells me going through random door 1 a totally different conscious being will be created as going through random door 2. In fact time will play a part inside the random room also as it is not until the random moment of conception is it that things have been determined as a new conscious being blueprint. Feed this blueprint on anything relatively nutritious and the same conscious being will result. One notable fact is that during our lifetime we do not change from being one person to another, we remain the same person. On closer inspection of my life, however, I am who I am as a consequence of my surroundings, was I just a normal shell of a human being. The type that is delivered about the planet at a rate of something like five a second and it filled with knowledge slowly and I became me over the passage of time as my brain decided who I was once I was born. Having just touched on being the same person as you were when you were younger, on second thoughts if you think carefully, the only true images you have from when you were young are the photos you remember. Other than this there are very distant memories. Perhaps you are only who you are for a moment and then become someone else the next moment, but the transition is so subtle that you do not notice and the people who notice it least are your friends and family as they are busy trying to clutch onto their identity and remembering who someone is by sound and vision is an important trait else you will be considered balmy. So every moment to the next you become a different person within this universe, each moment brings a new sensation or view that you had not had before. When you get home in the evening from a day out, you become familiar with your old self in the comfort of a recognizable surrounding and memories of your recent past are prevalent in your mind. For someone who has been in two totally different surroundings, living a life that was totally different from their life today, it seems strange that someone can say to themselves quite legitimately Oh those days were terrible, I have forgotten those, in fact I have not remembered those days for years. However, those days were still that person. What we are coming to here is whether your old self is dead and your new self is here now. Your old self, who you think was you, is now stuck back in the past and can never be released again, effectively dead. Only you now in this split instant is alive, your future unplanned as far as you are concerned, a new you being born into the next instant of time as time progresses forward. That is until one day when you were not looking properly as you were crossing the road and the number 32 bus runs you over. I have scoured the Internet and discovered that there is no record of anyone ever having been run over by a number 32 bus. If we look at what happens to a caveman who has no mirrors to look at himself and no photos of when he was little, as he grows older he will only have a slight vision of what he looked like when the wind was not blowing one day when he was not hungry and glanced into the still water. As for the beard he now sports, it keeps him warm. His wife wishes to grow one but does not need one to nurture the myriad of offspring that sometimes survive. Being picked up by wolves and other meat eating scavengers when you were young must have been terrible, no wonder we only become conscious at about three or four years old. How could you tell a caveman that food prices have gone up this year by 4.4%? When a man died 1 million years ago did they bury him? Did they do anything with him? Did they always die on the job like a pigeon does today? When was the first man buried? What was the motive of burying the first man? When was sadness first felt on planet earth? When was the first tear shed? |