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Posted By: YbrikMetaknight

Posted On: Nov 23, 2003
Views: 2755
SNES

Yeah...SNES is it. Although I think that the PSX had more great titles than the SNES did, its best are nowhere near the SNES's best. FFVI, CT, SoM and SMRPG are four of my five favorite RPGs of all time (FF Tactics is also in the mix there). I think of those titles as the best of the best, the height of RPGs and possibly of gaming in general (SNES is my favorite system of all time in a variety of genres).


Posted By: Lightning Dragon

Posted On: Nov 22, 2003
Views: 2793
SNES all the way!

I'd definitely have to say when the SNES was in full-swing. Graphics were never the main focus of any RPG. They had interesting plots to make people want to play them. Take Breath of Fire I for instance. It may not have had great graphics or sound, and some people might have gotten bored with the gameplay. But it had a great plot. Well, most people prefer Final Fantasy to Breath of Fire, so think of the early FF games. FF4, FF5, FF6... They all had good plots. The SNES times were also the days of good CLEAN gaming (save some of the later games like Bahamut Lagoon and Tales of Phantasia). Think of any of those games. Swearing? Maybe if you were playing a ROM directly translated from the Japanese. Even then the worst you heard was the d-word once in the game. Back then, RPGs would have all gotten E ratings. I know there probably aren't many people who recognize the importance of clean gaming, but I do. The games were funny without any dirty humor. They didn't have to rely on such things to get people to buy them! Now I know there's gonna be an angry mob after me once I state this, but compare FF6 to FF7. FF6 was a clean game, but any one who's played it would tell you it was good (unless they're derranged). FF7 was full of unessecary swearing, and the Corneo scenes were equally unnessecary. I did beat FF7, and was quite addicted to the Chocobo racing, but the fact remains. Games are losing substance. They are relying on spiffy graphics and intriguing gameplay rather than in-depth plot. Games were also free of mushy-ness in the SNES days. Which is why FF8 is of the devil. Games were funny back then, not full of sentimental mush. Some RPGs nowadays have absolutely NO plot. Take Dark Cloud for instance. There is no interaction between the main characters whatsoever, which is sad. So basically, I've said in many words what could have easily been said in few: Games are losing substance and relying on graphics, and are going downhill just as fast as tv has.


Posted By: Master Xiam

Posted On: Nov 22, 2003
Views: 2799
I agree with Matt, but...

Can you say "Golden Sun"? Though smaller and therefore portable, the Game Boy Advance fills into that gap left open nowadays by the absence of the SNES. Though it is true I am a big fan for Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger (though I never managed to finish the latter - Heretic me, I guess), I loved Golden Sun and its sequel ("The Lost Age"... They could have a theme going there!)
And, of course, the folks of the Zelda series are still pushing out great games.


Posted By: Matt

Posted On: Nov 20, 2003
Views: 1019
The Golden Age

The entire lifespan of the SNES was the golden age of RPG's. The games were traditional in gameplay style, but advanced in plot and hours of gameplay. The minute RPG's went out of 2D (in particular the FF series), I'm afraid it all went downhill from substance to appearance.

Proof: FF4 & 6, Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana


Posted By: Sylvan Elf

Posted On: Nov 20, 2003
Views: 982
To be honest...

I don't consider the Golden Age to have ended. Yeah, the games are different since Final Fantasy IV and VI, but I still like them as much. I really couldn't trade any of the ones from the 90s for the modern ones or vice versa. I think the problem is that to have some aspects of a game, you have to sacrifice others, so people get irritated with one version of RPGs or another.


Posted By: Crowmagnum

Posted On: Nov 19, 2003
Views: 1014
Golden Age

Late 90's. the newer games seem to develop graphics over charaters and stories.


Posted By: Anonymous

Posted On: Nov 19, 2003
Views: 972
The 'Golden Age'.

The 'Golden Age of rpgs' to me is a specific term that applies to console rpgs. I would describe the 'Golden Age' as taking place from 1994-1997. It began with the release of FF6 and ended with the new generation of Playstation games. Not to say that the Playstation games were bad, per se, but they did usher in a new era of rpgs, ending the classical or golden age. Some other people might equate the Golden Age of console rpgs to include the entire lifespan of the SNES.


Posted By: Wilfredo Martinez

Posted On: Nov 19, 2003
Views: 979
Present Day

Call me an optimist, but I've always felt that the present is better than the past, in the sense that you can study the past and learn from its sucesses (and mistakes) to make even better games.
...Whether RPG companies actually do it is a matter of opinion...


Posted By: Ruckus

Posted On: Nov 18, 2003
Views: 963
"So 90's"

I'd have to say the 90's. A huge burst of computer RPGS rushed onto the scene. Then people tried merging it with other genres.

Ultima baby, that's what i'm talking about. Baking bread in U7 until you have enough money to buy a ship.


Posted By: Cynra

Posted On: Nov 18, 2003
Views: 967
Easily the '90s

This question is a no-brainer for me. I've been a fan of the role-playing genre for years and the majority of the games that I hold near and dear to my heart were released early to mid nineties. It's also an easily recognizable era when the older NES games would not be appealing to the newer crowd ("8-bit? What about the FMVs?")while newer games (for me, at least) have in the majority lost their appeal.


Posted By: Uriel

Posted On: Nov 18, 2003
Views: 975
The beggining...

I think the 'Golden Age' is when the world is taken into a new thing. So for me, I think the Golden age of RPGs was the 80s, I mean, D&D was already big then, but with Video Games, RPGs had a new stone to step on. As for the future, I believe another 'Golden Age' maybe upon us...with MMORPGs ruling semi-supreme and all...


Posted By: Snake Eyez

Posted On: Nov 18, 2003
Views: 969
Other

If Other were a choice, that's what I would have picked. I think that the best days for RPGs have yet to come, with the Internet playing a big part. FF XI and MMOPRGs like .hack are sure to shape the way we look at RPGs forever. The only thing that could make this already-impressive genre better is the introduction of online gaming with other people all over the world.

Current RPGs are good, but the best is yet to come.


Posted By: DomaDragoon

Posted On: Nov 17, 2003
Views: 988
I chose the 90's...

Mainly as a result of how it broadened the scope of RPGs. I can see many people suggesting the old Pen and Paper days of the 70's, and I wouldn't argue that they were some fine days. But on the console front, it was only in the 90's that there was some true justifiable growth. As well, the advances in communications technology (including the dawn of the truly Worldwide Web) made it easier for said PnP people to contact around the world.