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| Posted By: Maju Posted On: Apr 5, 2008 Views: 2492 | Other (undated) quite clear quartets III-25 He who will attain to the kingdom of Navarre When Sicily and Naples will be joined: He will hold Bigorre and Landes through Foix and Oloron From one who will be too closely allied with Spain. This seems (pretty clearly) to talk about Henry III of Navarre and IV of France (leader of the French Huguenot party). He married Marguerite de Valois and took those lands to the house of Guise (Catholic allies of Spain). Date 1572, 17 years after Nostradamus' death. ... III-61 The great band and sect of crusaders Will be arrayed in Mesopotamia: Light company of the nearby river, That such law will hold for an enemy. Possibly the US invasion of Iraq (Mesopotamia) of 2003, and subsequent guerrilla/terrorism under a Jordanian (Jordan=nearby river): Abu Musad al Zarqawi. ... III-89 Thirty of London will conspire secretly Against their King, the enterprise on the bridge: He and his satellites will have a distaste for death, A fair King elected, native of Frisia. This fits perfectly with the British "Glorious Revolution" of 1688. ________ I never researched beyond century VI (it was giving me a real headache and too much stuff is just impossible to tell). I have other "located" quartets but these are the really clear ones. Coincidence? Check my other topic. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Apr 11, 2008 Views: 2480 | RE: Other (undated) quite clear quartets Its amazing how many people see so many different things from the same drivel. It is possible to make those vague ramblings fit almost anything you want them to, as you have shown. Though how you manage to convince yourself that you have correctly 'decoded' that crap is a total mystery to the rest of us. |
| Posted By: Maju Posted On: Apr 12, 2008 Views: 2476 | RE: Other (undated) quite clear quartets Whatever: just ponder if IV-89 (not III-89, as I posted before) fits perfectly with the Glorious Revolution in Britain or not? Surely just a coincidence. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Apr 18, 2008 Views: 2463 | RE: Other (undated) quite clear quartets It may perhaps be a little more convincing if someone actually deciphered the mad man's drivel and gave an accurate prediction of an event BEFORE it happened. Working out what it is supposed to mean (according to one individual's personal interpretation) AFTER the event is hardly a prediction is it. Let's get real here. |
| Posted By: Maju Posted On: Apr 19, 2008 Views: 2460 | RE: Other (undated) quite clear quartets Sure. It would be much better if N. would have put his thoughts (predictions or fantasies) in clear words, that way nobody would have to make interpretations. Anyhow, here is my own, a diffuse idea that I got from quartets here and there and that I'm not in the mood of researching further: Iran (or maybe Pakistan) will be given free ride by "the lord of the seas" (the USA, I understand) and will incorporate (read loosely: "get allied with") Turkey ("Byzantium") and attack Europe by the Mediterranean. Italy will be the country suffering most and may end up a nuclear desert. France and Spain will also be affected. If my reading is correct, that should happen not too far in the future but not the next year either. Anyhow, N. seems to claim that his predictions are for several milennia, and with his lack of datation in most cases, it's nearly impossible to say when anything will happen, if it's 2010 or 4020. All assuming his centuries are real predictions and not just ramblings. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Apr 20, 2008 Views: 2455 | RE: Other (undated) quite clear quartets You said "Sure. It would be much better if N. would have put his thoughts (predictions or fantasies) in clear words, that way nobody would have to make interpretations." If his so called predictions were clear then they would not be open to such loose interpretations that result in them being read in so many ways to 'fit' so many situations. This is the whole point. This is the only reason why people believe these crazy ramblings, because they can be made to fit just about anything! They are as meaningful as a horroscope reading in any daily national newspaper. In other words worthless. Your interpretations prove my point. You are reading into them stuff that just isn't there, except in your mind. Its like telling a shrink what pictures you see in ink blots, they are just ink blots, but we all see something different in them. N's ramblings are just that, the ramblings of a poor man who was loosing his mind. You can read into them whatever you want, but they are just the ramblings of a mad man, regardless of what you, or anyone else, choses to read into them. If you think otherwise, if you really believe he could foretell the future, that is your choice, but where is the evidence? There is none. |
| Posted By: Maju Posted On: Apr 21, 2008 Views: 2450 | RE: Other (undated) quite clear quartets "If his so called predictions were clear then they would not be open to such loose interpretations that result in them being read in so many ways to 'fit' so many situations". The theory is that he was fearful of talking plain because of inquistion (inquisitorial practices, there was no Inquisition as such in France but regular judges could and did carry on religious persecutions). Nostradamus was after all not just a seer and astrologist but also a convert Jew, so he was clearly in danger in the 16th century, even in the relatively tolerant France (in Spain he would have not survived for long probably). Of course you can believe what you want but there is a reasonable pretext not to give information that could be considered a crime against the Church (like in III-25 above: a protestant gaining the throne of France!). I can only imagine that he ciphered somehow his quartets and that the cipher is lost. It should not be anything too hard, as he apparently expected his son Cesar to be able to decipher it... but guess not. "This is the whole point. This is the only reason why people believe these crazy ramblings, because they can be made to fit just about anything!" That can be certainly be said of many interpretations. Personally I've tried to be as strict as possible, going to the French original when I thought I found something. But my results are very limited... and eventually I lost patience. It can be that you (and other skeptics) are right. But the other thread I started, with the only two dated quartets seems to show that he could be quite precise. I mean: I just don't believe that the Putin connection is a mere coincidence. Not just the year but the months are exactly coincident with his ascension to power. If it's a coincidence it's a very striking one. There are twelve months each year and both are right. That's 1/144 odds. Plus the year, of course... It's statistically impossible that the X-72 quartet on the King of the Mongols is a coincidence. Just make the calculations. Even if we consider the ascensions of every single Russian leader since the 16th century, the odds are totally against such a striking hit. "Its like telling a shrink what pictures you see in ink blots, they are just ink blots, but we all see something different in them." I normally just see ink blots. Too abstract too mean anything... But guess you mean like the "Holy Mary" toast. Problem is that everybody sees a face in it, holy or not. Maybe better clouds, you know: people that try to see clouds that resemble something. I was never good at that either. Anyhow, images are formed differently than words in the mind - words are more meaningful, rational: we think with words basically. But of course the only "proof" I have is one quartet among 940 (and a handful of others that look much like real stuff). I admit is not enough. But it is also one of only two dated quartets. That's a 50% hit. -- PS: as you are the site's administrator, maybe you can correct the typo in the title (should read "undated"), it's kind of annoying. Thanks. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Apr 22, 2008 Views: 2436 | RE: Other (undated) quite clear quartets Okay I have corrected the typo on 'undated'. There is nothing more I can add regarding the subject matter. If you think they are genuine predictions that's fine, thats your choice. |