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Posted By: Surfer_

Posted On: May 6, 2004
Views: 2237
âäîãîíêó

>> I strongly believe in some changes in the Constitution about presidential powers and his aurithority

Âîò îíî, ÿâíîå äîêàçàòåëüñòâî òîãî, ÷òî âû äàëåêè îò Óçáåêèñòàíà è ñîâåðøåííî íå ïðåäñòàâëÿåòå ñåáå, ÷òî òàì ïðîèñõîäèò, êàê òàì ìûñëÿò ëþäè è ò.ä.
Íàäî æå, constitutional changes, ÿ äðîæó îò óìèëåíèÿ :)


Posted By: Surfer_

Posted On: May 6, 2004
Views: 2225
Answer to Diablo

Íó, ñàìî ñîáîé, òû èç-çà ãðàíèöû ïèøåøü. Èíà÷å ïðîñòî ãëóïî áûëî áû ïèñàòü â ëàòèíñêîé ðàñêëàäêå ïî-ðóññêè. Õîòÿ è çàãðàíèöåé ëþäè áåç òðóäà íàõîäÿò ðóññêèå áóêâû - åñëè, êîíå÷íî, èì íå òàê âàæíî êàçàòüñÿ êðóòûìè èíîñòðàíöàìè (êàê òåáå, âîçìîæíî?).
Ìèëîê, ñïàñèáî òåáå çà äîáðûå ñîâåòû, íî ÿ è òàê èìåþ íåìàëî ÷åãî ïî÷èòàòü, ïîìèìî Human Rights Reports (êîòîðûå ÿ ÷èòàë, ïðè÷¸ì íå òîëüêî Annual). Äëÿ ìåíÿ âåùè, îïèñàííûå òàì, íå áûëè è íå ÿâëÿþòñÿ îòêðûòèåì, ÿ ñàì ñîâñåì íåäàâíî æèë òàì, ñðåäè íèõ, è çíàíèÿ î òîì, ÷òî ïðîèñõîäèò â Óçáåêèñòàíå, ÿ ÷åðïàþ íå èç îò÷¸òîâ ìåæäóíàðîäíûõ îðãàíèçàöèé, áóäü óâåðåí.
ß óâåðåí, ÷òî â Óçáåêèñòàíå äåìîêðàòèåé ïîêà ÷òî íå ïàõíåò, è ÷òî íåìàëî íåâèííûõ ëþäåé ñòðàäàþò çàçðÿ, äà è âèíîâíûå ïîëó÷àþò ãîðàçäî áîëüøå, ÷åì çàñëóæèâàþò. Çàêîííîñòü - âåùü ìàëîïîíÿòíàÿ óçáåêñêèì "ñèëîâèêàì", ìåíòàì òåì æå. Åñëè òû äóìàåøü, ÷òî ÿ îõâà÷åí ëþáîâüþ ê È.Êàðèìîâó, òî òû îøèáàåøüñÿ. Íî åñëè òû äóìàåøü, ÷òî â ýëåêòðîííîì ãîëîñîâàíèè íà ñàéòå ÿ ãîëîñîâàë çà íåãî, òî òû ïðàâ. Äîáàâëþ, ÷òî è íà ïîñëåäíèõ âûáîðàõ ÿ òîæå ãîëîñîâàë çà íåãî.
ß ãîâîðþ î òîì, ÷òî ðåàëüíîñòü ãîðàçäî õóæå, ÷åì âàøè ðàôèíèðîâàííûå ïðåäñòàâëåíèÿ î òîì, ÷òî äåìîêðàòèÿ ñóùåñòâóåò, è ÷òî å¸ ïðèíöèïû îñóùåñòâèìû íà ïðàêòèêå ãäå óãîäíî. Òî, ÷òî ñàì ÈÊ èñïîëüçóåò ïîíÿòèå "êóëüòóðíûå îñîáåííîñòè" êàê îòìàçêó, íå îçíà÷àåò, ÷òî ýòî ïîëíàÿ ÷óøü. Ìî¸ ëè÷íîå ìíåíèå (êîòîðîå ÿ íèêîìó íå ñóþ è íå âáèâàþ, à ïðîñòî âûñêàçûâàþ) - åñëè åãî óáðàòü ñ ïîñòà ïðåçèäåíòà, òî åñòü øàíñ ïîëó÷èòü âòîðîé Èðàê (ÿ îá îáùåì ïðèíöèïå, íåêîòîðûå ÷àñòíîñòè ìîãóò îòëè÷àòüñÿ).
À ÷òî êàñàåòñÿ ïðàâà íà âûñêàçûâàíèå ìíåíèÿ - ñàìî ñîáîé, âñå èìåþò ýòî ïðàâî, è äàæå ÿ.

P.S. Òû íèãäå íå ñëûøàë (÷èòàë, âîçìîæíî?), ÷òî ñìåøèâàíèå ÿçûêîâ ÿâëÿåòñÿ îäíèì èç ïðèçíàêîâ íåãðàìîòíîñòè / áåñêóëüòóðüÿ?


Posted By: DIABLO

Posted On: May 6, 2004
Views: 2115
Feedback

E'to message v osobennosti napravlen to Surfer. Ty sound like an old and hardcore pessimist who sits his ass and just take and accept things as they flow. Da i ne nado svoyu mne ideologiyu suvat'...mol jivya za granitsey legshe i viskazivat' svoyo mnenie more openely. Ty idi i chitay Annual Human Rights Reports i sam sam posudi chto po chyom. Ne imeet znacheniya gde by someone is currently living they have their right to vote their opinion...anyway



Posted By: sanjar

Posted On: May 5, 2004
Views: 2008
yetti o'lchab bir kes

islom karimov mana 13 yildan buyon o'zbekistonda hukmronlik qilmoqda. shu yillar mobaynida o'zbekistonda 2 marotaba terror xarakatlari yuz berdi. xo'sh qaysi candidate shunandaqa muammolarni xal qila oladi? kim poraxo'rchilikni badnom qila oladi? kim o'zbekiston xalqining xayot darajasini musbat tarafga ko'tara oladi?
bunisiga nima deysiz?


Posted By: Âîâàí èç Ôåðãàíû

Posted On: May 4, 2004
Views: 2080
good-luck

ñåé÷àñ æèâó â Ìîñêâå,äóìàþ,÷òî Êàðèìîâ íîðìàëüíûé ÷åë,áûë-áû êòî íèáóäü äðóãîé áûëî áû õóæå


Posted By: MMM

Posted On: May 3, 2004
Views: 2114
HA HA HA

KARIMOV LOOSER HE WILL LOSE


Posted By: Surfer_

Posted On: Apr 28, 2004
Views: 2422
Ðèñêîâûå ïàðíè

Íàâåðíîå, íåïëîõî, æèâÿ çàãðàíèöåé, ìå÷òàòü î äðóãîì ïðåçèäåíòå. Äåñêàòü, õåðîâûé ïðåçèäåíò. ß áû ïîñìîòðåë, êàê áû âû "îáðàäîâàëèñü" â ñëó÷àå åãî ñìåíû, åñëè áû æèëè â Óçáåêèñòàíå. È ðèñêíóëè ëè áû âû îñòàòüñÿ òàì, åñëè åãî êòî-ëèáî ñìåíèò. Äåìîêðàòèÿ - õîðîøî, íî øêóðà äîðîæå, äà è áëèæå. Èçäàëåêà (Ìîñêâà, Ëîíäîí, è ò.ï.) âñå ãåðîè.


Posted By: Àêðàì

Posted On: Apr 24, 2004
Views: 2645
25 - íå ïîáåäà

È âñå òàêè 25% - åùå íå ïîáåäà, Èñëàì Àáäóãàíèåâè÷. Ýòî âàì íå 95%, êîòîðûå âû ïîëó÷àåòå â âûáîðàõ, îðãàíèçîâàííûõ âàìè.


Posted By: Soprano

Posted On: Apr 21, 2004
Views: 2801
Àíòèíàðîä Ïðåçèäåíò


Íàøà çîëîòî â Ìîñêâå òþ-òþ!


Posted By: DIABLO

Posted On: Apr 20, 2004
Views: 2508
Democracy

Well fellas,

I can finally see some changes in this polling results. Variety of candidates and of course two major opponents. On the one hand we have our "Yurtbashi" and on the other one it is somebody else...can anyone name this Mr. someone else by any chance. That is why all of the elections since Uzbekistan became Independent have been highly critisized by many Organizations. Even in the last presidential elections his incumbent voted for Islam Karimov. I strongly believe in some changes in the Constitution about presidential powers and his aurithority
hala back

u


Posted By: Ðóñëàí

Posted On: Apr 18, 2004
Views: 2448
Êàðèìîâ

Áëèí, ñòîëüêî êðèòèêóåòå Êàðèìîâà, à íà âûáîðàõ îí ñíîâà ïîáåæäàåò.


Posted By: Îò ÍÀÐÎÄÀ ÓÇÁÅÊÈÑÒÀÍ

Posted On: Apr 16, 2004
Views: 2298
Êàíäèäàò â ïðåçèäåíòû

 ïðåçèäåíòû Óçáåêèñòàíà ÏÓÒÈÍÀ


Posted By: Umnik

Posted On: Apr 13, 2004
Views: 2492
uzinga ishon

sen topgan pul uning chuntagida


Posted By: Íàçèð

Posted On: Apr 13, 2004
Views: 2263
Êàðèìîâ

Èñëàì Àáäóãàíèåâè÷ íàáèðàåò îáîðîòû:)))


Posted By: Hoshim

Posted On: Apr 11, 2004
Views: 2366
Islom Karimovni rejimini oliy deb bilganlar e****i

Bilib qoylaring unday kofir xech qachon yurtni obod qimiydi..


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