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Posted By: Matt

Posted On: Jun 30, 2004
Views: 1171
RE: Michael Moore is a jerk

Doug your so deep in the forest you cant even see the trees.


Posted By: shadrak

Posted On: Jun 30, 2004
Views: 1167
RE: Michael Moore is a jerk

You are so right Dr.z...all americans are idiots...we all support bush etc...... I didn't vote for bush...but somehow i still support him....i know that MM is right... however the fact that we really need to have all this info pointed out to us..is just sad....it taking a disgusting little @$$hole like moore to convince us that bush is bad... is just horrible


Posted By: Soccergirl

Posted On: Jun 30, 2004
Views: 1157
RE: Michael Moore is a jerk

Wow reading through these postings really highlights the true value of this movie - to stir things up! Its unfortunate that some people have resorted to personal attacks, but I for one am grateful for the diversity of opinion - if we all thought the same thing, how interesting would that be? I would like to suggest that if you haven't seen the movie, you actually see it before commenting. I did see it, and it has inspired me to get more involved in the process - volunteering at vote registering booths and phone banks to get people to register. I don't care which party people register for, I am only hoping that people will start to pay attention on both sides.
Some think its wrong to see a movie that questions our government during war time, but I found it to be a patriotic tribute to the mostly noble, young, and poor Americans fighting in Iraq today. I would recommend it to anyone, no matter your political preference. This movie is more about class warfare than political sides.

We all want leadership that understands and appreciates the responsibility of sending people to fight and die, of defending democracy here and abroad, of working just as hard for the people who can't donate money to your campaign. For me, that's what this movie is all about.

Hoping for intelligent and critical responses,
T
PS - much of the movie was DAMN funny...


Posted By: Doug

Posted On: Jun 30, 2004
Views: 1144
RE: Michael Moore is a jerk

Matt, you know what your problem is? You're as thickheaded as the rest of the rightwing Jesus freak Bush fans who formulate an opinion, and stick to it. Open your eyes. I've given Bush a chance, I've looked at boths sides objectively. It's pointless arguing with conservative Republicans because they are sheep. You see only your side, argue over moot, non factual points, and wouldn't even change your mind about something even if you later found out you were wrong. Have you ever been wrong about anything in your life?


Posted By: Syrgot

Posted On: Jun 30, 2004
Views: 1136
RE: Michael Moore is a jerk

I raise my glass to that with pride, Doug! Amen!

www.moveon.org

They're giving free bumper stickers out right now, mine just came in the mail, everyone should get one! EVERYONE!


Posted By: dude

Posted On: Jul 1, 2004
Views: 1128
RE: Michael Moore is a jerk

"It's pointless arguing with conservative Republicans because they are sheep. You see only your side, argue over moot, non factual points, and wouldn't even change your mind about something even if you later found out you were wrong. Have you ever been wrong about anything in your life?"

-Substitute 'Liberal Democrats' for 'Conservative Republicans' in that sentence, and you have pretty much the same description. That's the problem with politics in the U.S. today. The people with extreme views on either side have the microphone, and the silent majority of us put up with it.


Posted By: Matt

Posted On: Jul 1, 2004
Views: 1124
RE: Michael Moore is a jerk

Amen brother Doug! You have beamed the beacon of light back into me. Not. Hey Doug its easy to critisize but most people normally back-up their insults with what there own opions. If you cant do that it doesnt matter how many sit-ups you did that morning. If you wanna side with the terrorists and elect a fraud go elect Little Miss Kerry. While I agree with the Presidents point of view, I don't like George Bush as a person because he comes off as an idiot which makes us look dumb to other countries (mainly Canada and France). I think if John Kerry is elected (most likely 60-40) I wont be very happy about it, but I will feel good that whatever he does will make the US a more peaceful well respected place. Which is probably the most important thing right now.


Posted By: Matt

Posted On: Jul 1, 2004
Views: 1122
RE: Michael Moore is a jerk

What Iam saying is that the most important thing is that no matter how this turns out I will respect and fellow land and wave my flag with pride. Which I hope everyone will do.


Posted By: CZ

Posted On: Jul 1, 2004
Views: 1117
RE: Michael Moore is a jerk

How exactly is voting for "Little Miss Kerry" siding with the terrorists? And prove how voting otherwise would not be supporting terrorists, and I wont look at that post as a complete piece of ****.


Posted By: Doug

Posted On: Jul 1, 2004
Views: 1116
RE: Michael Moore is a jerk

I'm not siding with the terrorists! I already told you I disagree with Bush's decision to invade Iraq! Oh you meant the other terrorists. Yes, I don't like them very much either, considering my girlfriend at the time lost an uncle in 9/11, my sister was put through hell since she worked in building number 7 and lived in Brooklyn, and several other Long Islanders like me lost friends.

But this is a different point we're talking about. I'm not talking about September 11th.

Fact: there were no WMD's found in Iraq.

Fact: A bi-partisan congressional committee found no evidence of a link between al-Qaeda and Saddam.

Fact: more Iraqi and Afghani citizens were killed in this war than at the World Trade Center.

Fact: Bush's Patriot Act allows him to imprison an American indefinately, without telling them of the charges, allowing them a lawyer or even to contact their families.

Bush claims that Operation Iraqi Freedom was necessary because 1) Saddam is linked to al-Qaeda 2) Al-Qaeda would then have access to WMD's that EXIST in Iraq and 3) The Iraqi people want (and need) to be saved.

There is more evidence to disprove the first two of Bush's claims then to support it, and judging from all the insurgents and opinion polls (by the way, wtf is an opion?) in Iraq, Bush ain't doing so well with the last claim.

This war is about money and oil, and that's f-ed up. I make enough money to pay a couple bucks more for gas, and I would've been happier seeing the money spent on the war, funding research into alternative energy resources to bolster our oil-dependent power grid instead.

Fact: We went from a 5 trillion dollar surplus to a 4 trillion dollar deficit since Bush's election.

Fact: Bush and Rice both have mutually beneficial connections to Big Oil

Fact: Cheney has close ties with Ken Lay of Enron (He's a great guy). Plus he used to run Halliburton, which cleans up war torn nations.

All of this information I am getting from objective reading. Then I formulate an opinion, based on some pretty good facts.

Don't call me Unamerican because I don't side with our leader, I didn't vote for him, I didn't want him, and if he didn't rig Florida he wouldn't be there.

How did you know about my morning routine? After I eat my powerbar, I do sit-ups. I can do a thousand now...


Posted By: dude

Posted On: Jul 1, 2004
Views: 1115
RE: Michael Moore is a jerk

That was a great movie.Moore was not dishonoring people he was showing the tragedies that befell them to show none of this should have happened in the first place.Then he showed us the evidence about the real reasons for us going to war.Bush getting rich.Even if he did "dishonor" them the truth is a lot more important than an abstractvalue like that.






LONG LIVE MICHEAL MOORE AND ODD TODD!!!


Posted By: Matt

Posted On: Jul 1, 2004
Views: 1106
RE: Michael Moore is a jerk

Sounds like someone has sand in their vagina...... Could it be.... Doug! I think it is.


Posted By: Matt

Posted On: Jul 1, 2004
Views: 1105
RE: Michael Moore is a jerk

Ohh and by the way Saddam is linked to Al-Qaeda bitch.


Posted By: Peter

Posted On: Jul 1, 2004
Views: 1100
RE: Michael Moore is a jerk

I think he has more than sand up their


Posted By: itsmecheryl

Posted On: Jul 1, 2004
Views: 1097
RE: Michael Moore is a jerk

The real question is who would win in a real fight between Doug and Matt and I thnk Matt would.


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