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Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Oct 10, 2004
Views: 1965
Check out this proof

This is a recommended site to visit for proof of TK by sumone4life

http://ppsociety.com

You may wonder why I keep pushing it, you would think that as it is the exact opposite of what my site is all about I would ignore it. Oh No! I like to show both sides of an argument, even if I think the other side daft. It comes of not having a closed mind.

Points to notice about the site:
1) You have to register before you gain full access.
2) Before you can be accepted as a registered member the site suggests it may help your case if you give some favourable comments first. You know, let them know how much you love doing TK, stuff like that. That may allow you join, they may not.
3) Only serious TK members allowed No ‘silly’ questions permitted, like “How can I learn to do it?”
4) If you say anything against the site or TK you will be banned.
5) You have to be 16 or over.
6) All comments are monitored, there is a list of subjects that are not allowed, and may be deleted and you may be banned. They will not allow any rubbishing of TK at all.
7) Do you suppose they would put in a link to my site, as I do to theirs, for the sake of a balanced argument? Ho ho ho ho ho. Yeah right!

As you can see, the site is very restricted.
What are they so afraid of?

Anyway, enjoy the videos, they are a right laugh.
It is honestly worth while going to the site and watching the vids, no need to register for this. How we are meant to take it seriously is beyond me, but then it is just a kiddies site.


Posted By: sumone4life

Posted On: Oct 10, 2004
Views: 1960
RE: Check out this proof

U know y its so restricted...cuz of ****tards like you. People who just wanna prove that it does exist or are complete n00bs and havent read about it first. Thats y its so restricted...no cuz they got stuff to hide but just from people such as urself


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Oct 10, 2004
Views: 1955
RE: Check out this proof

Oh, I see. they don't want bastards like me?
By that you mean people that will ask awkward questions for
which the idiots on that web site have no answer.
Seems reasonable, for a bunch of paranoid conspiracy loving self deluding higher mental plane frigging nut cases.
Those videos are a joke, come on, admit it!!!!!
Proof my arse!!!!!!



Posted By: sumone4life

Posted On: Oct 11, 2004
Views: 1947
RE: Check out this proof

no we have answers...only a very small portion of the people on the earth are TK. Now if the rest of the population where to come and start asking a **** load of n00b questions the board would get flooded and everyone would leave cuz of the the n00bs. He trying to keep the board alive.


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Oct 11, 2004
Views: 1941
RE: Check out this proof

Whatever.


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Oct 19, 2004
Views: 1912
RE: Check out this proof

This is just so funny!
I posted a comment on the TK site
http://ppsociety.com
It was a comment under one of the video clips, and my comment was that I thought it pointless showing a video that any school kid could fake, and offer it up as "proof".
Their response is to ban me from the site, even from looking at it! I am naturally heartbroken.
Like I said earlier, this site is so truly pathetic they will not allow any comments other than from believers. “Oh wow, that’s amazing, that video should convince everyone” etc. etc.
Who do they really think they are kidding?
How sad are they?
What on earth is the point in putting up a site showing 'proof' of TK when the 'proof ' is so laughable they can't allow any challenges to it because they know they will look stupid?
Like I say though, check it out, its hilarious!


Posted By: Fidex

Posted On: Nov 1, 2004
Views: 1856
RE: Check out this proof

@sumone4life:

Please, PLEASE.. NEVER say anything about the website containing truths and facts about TK being real. It might be to you, but that is a matter of opinion and your own feelings about the subject. Also, saying such things attracts skeptics and others who want to disprove things like that. And it's not what we are waiting for since they always miss the general idea of the website.


@Keith Mayes:

Your way of writing obviously shows some kind of anger, feer, jenvy, I'm not sure. The fact that you have to post this is an obvious sign of a typical skeptic. Try to get as many responses that agree with you so that you don't have to be unsure about proving that this is all a hoax, something like that. Anyway, it seems that banning you has really upset you, I am so sorry for that.

Although I am not excited about replying to this post, I want to straighten some things out.

1. The only 'extra' access you get by registering is the ability to post in the forums and several other places. The reason of this is that there were a lot of morons who kept posting very obscene things, something nobody wants on his/her website. So THAT is why the site is so restricted.

2. The comment in the registration form has nothing to do with showing how much you love TK, I will never even accept anyone who will write that down there, it mostly shows childishness and not seriousness. It is just there to make a quick judgement on someone's 'level of seriousness'. And yes, of course you can't judge people by some comment, not always. But it is the most effective way to sort out idiots many times. As it shows when registering, visiting us in the chat will be good to show that you are not an idiot, some kind of superhero wannabe, things like that. It will make the judgement a lot easier.

3. That is pretty logical. There is exactly enough information to see how possibilities of learning it work. When people ask how to learn it, they should get more serious and take the time to read, thats why the text is there. For people who are more interested in the scientific side of it all, they can read a lot of theoretical information, mostly quatum physics based, in another section of the site. All this is readable for anyone (who doesn't want to be "a superhero within 10 minutes"), guests included.

4. How long have you been on the site? You never really participated in anything but trying to disprove what you see basically, so who are you to say that everyone who says something about the site or TK gets banned? If you don't know the situation, then don't judge.

5. Another attempt to filter out the kiddies.

6. Of course everything is monitored, there are some young kids that don't need to see for example, that using drugs is good, or agressive/offense comments. We don't LIKE rubbishing about TK (although it doesnt actually say that litteraly on the site) when someone did not took the time to see for him/herself that TK might acutally be for real, and trying to disprove anything that doesn't fit into their little world.

7. Is that something that is needed? Is that some kind of RULE? Look, if you want to spend your time being so annoyed by a website and try to make people believe you and follow you like you are jezus because you have such 'fantastic' arguments, be my guest. But don't expect me to do the same thing, because my website is not intended for such things.

Now, if you took the time to not read all the 'bad' things (in your frame of reference) on the website, you would have noticed that it says on the front page:
"This site and the material on it is not meant to provoke a discussion about it being real or not". So, IF you have a comment on something, make it good, think of some GOOD arguments to support your opinion, but more importantly, first see for yourself.

You say "I like to show both sides of an argument". Well, I only saw 1 side in your comment at the vids, now if you would have made a comment with another side of the story with some logical arguments, ok. If you would have tried to experience yourself first and after that say that it doesn't work, and at least give us the chance to show you that it is indeed possible, than you would have shown that you are more mature then you show now, and that your intention is not to just disprove it, because that is so obvious now.

When someone tells you that a strawberry icecream tastes so good, do you try to disprove it without first trying it?

If you have never been to a country, are you going to try disprove that it even exists without looking for it?

If your kids you might have (some day), say they fell in love with someone, would you try to disprove it because you will never see any physical touchable love?


Anyway, I don't understand why 'people like you' spend so much time disproving things they can not explain. We all know that the scientific,intelligent part of society, which is very small, tries to explain things they do not understand using all methods available. I bet you would even try to disprove scientific facts that are often not known to man. If I were you, I would let everything that you want to disprove go, let everyone be, don't judge so much, and just enjoy life. The things you do now are useless, can't you see it yourself?

Oh and, if it are all 'kiddies' then why take 'some kid' serious about the site containing proof? Next time just look up the webmaster and try to have a decent, adult discussion about what ever you want to talk about, because this is not a 'fair' move so to speak. But then you are just another skeptic.


Take care,
Fidex


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Nov 1, 2004
Views: 1819
RE: Check out this proof

Hi Fidex,
So your site is NOT about saying that TK is real.
God, how dumb am I?
Sorry, I have no idea how I managed to get that daft impresssion.
But then, I am 'just another skeptic'.

Keith


Posted By: Joker

Posted On: Nov 1, 2004
Views: 1816
RE: Check out this proof

I agree with Keith. That website is a total joke. As for the video's anyone can do the things shown/faked. The easiest of all being the psi-wheel. If you think that just because you got a small paper/foil on a pin to spin that you have some kind of TK then you are wrong. ANYONE can stick their hand next to a "psi-wheel" and make it spin with no TK involved. It also doesnt take a genius to figure out that a block of ice will freely slide across a cd cover with no TK involved. Also moving some foil across some straws proves nothing at all. You know how much foil weighs? Nearly NOTHING!! The slightest movement of the hand will make it move. That website shows absolutely no hard evidence of there being any such thing as people having some kind of TK ablilites. There is also a 1 million dollar award for anyone that can prove that they have some kind of TK ability which no one has yet claimed.. I wonder why.. That is of coarse why I think that website is a joke.


Posted By: Fidex

Posted On: Nov 1, 2004
Views: 1803
RE: Check out this proof

Look at that reaction.. You don't really show you are an intelligent man capable of (dis)proving anything.

Well, its not important. As I stated before; I, nor the website are here to prove anything. You could easily start discussions like this with anyone, trying to disprove something you know not much about. but WHY? Why the hell do you people care so much about disproving the existance of a certain parapsychological pehomenon? It shows that you are extremely ignorant, because you can't come up with anything better than merely a sarcastic remark which also shows you have not much more to say after my reply.


If we were trying to proof something, then I'd totally agree with Joker. But the vids are only there because SOME people like tho SHARE what they think is their experience with TK. Why are you so obsessed by telling 'everyone' that "it isnt proof!!". OF COURSE you can fake those videos, you can fake ANYTHING on video.

You treat us like we are people who think they know something which isn't true, though you are exactly that. NO ONE knows EVERYTHING about this world, not even you.

I ask you nicely to have the respect to just let the website, its members and its content be. Just accept the fact that there is a website online with some content about TK, and go on with your life. There is NOTHING going to change by ANYTHING you say, so why all the 'fuzz'? Accept that what is, is.

Although I don't expect a very mature reaction on this post, I hope you take the time to read it, and don't let your pride or whatever it is convince you to keep bashing about it. There are enough other websites to bash, check out the links on the website and pick one.

Greetings,
Fidex


Posted By: Bluetears

Posted On: Nov 1, 2004
Views: 1774
RE: Check out this proof

hmmm, so why has no one posted anything that is slightly related to why you think tk is not real? I feel the same way about tk as I do magick and tarot cards, along with all other forms of mediation that I practice. How can you say that it is not real and not possible till you let me read your tarot cards? I can give you plenty of personal reasons and experiances to show why I belive in tk. But do any of you have personal reasons and experiances as to why you don;t belive in tk?


Posted By: roger

Posted On: Nov 2, 2004
Views: 1759
RE: Check out this proof

Because it hasnt been proven in any way as of yet. OR is it that you dont know how to read and didnt come across those lines. It makes me laugh when a bunch of kids get together and think its amazing when they can move very small lightweight objects such as foil (as said before that ways nearly nothing). All of which could be moved by the slightest amount of air current. I put my nephiews hand next to a "psi-wheel" and just his hands around it was able to create movement. Does that mean that the eight year old who had no idea of what was going on had any TK ability? OR was it just the air current created when he put his hand around it.. Its funny how some of you sit in front of these "psi-wheels" for hours a day thinking that your actually doing something with it, when in reality your just wasting your time with it. Maybe when somebody is able to obtain the One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge under observation of others then you guys may make a believer out of me. But moving foil around, and other extremely lightweight objects proves absolutely nothing. Call me ignorant if you want, Im just stating the facts.


Posted By: bluetears

Posted On: Nov 2, 2004
Views: 1756
RE: Check out this proof

You know that you are completely right. A mere breeze can move a psi wheel. That is why, if you belive in tk, you try very hard to not create any air movment at all. There are many ways you can do this.
1. Hold your breath
2. make sure there are no windows open and no fans blowing
3. of course let you hand/s rest by the psiwheel for a second to make sure it wasn;t your own movement causing the psiwheel to spin.

There are some things you have failed to mention in your on going comments against tk. Things such as, if there is no air curents and you are not moving any, how can a person cause a psiwheel to move very rapidly 30 some times in a row? Moving light weight things are not the only acomplishments made by tk. Some people can cause lampshades to spin many times, or flick a light switch, some people that are very advandced can even cause some things to levetate. I have acutally seen one of my friends move a lamp shade infact. In your argument to disprove tk you have not mentioned any of these accurences though.

I have not had much sucsess myself in tk till recently. When I did first acomplish the ability to move a psiwheel I was very doubtful it was actually I that was moving it. So I tried again, only the second time I put my hand close enough that the side of my psiwheel was hitting my hand as it spined. It would take a decent air current to make a psi wheel hit my hand and keep moving at the same speed in the same direction. And if you still belive it was just an air current, before I caused this to happen I took all of the above precautions. There was absolutely no air currents I am sure.
If you have experimented extensively or talked/seen people that say they can practice tk and still don't belive it. Then you have whats called an informed opinion. Untill then, you are just a person blowing hot air out of their mouth.


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Nov 2, 2004
Views: 1729
RE: Check out this proof

Bluetears,
Read my article on how to conduct a scientific test, THEN come back and tell me you can move a psi wheel by TK.





Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Nov 2, 2004
Views: 1726
RE: Check out this proof

Hi Fidex,
I had another look at your site today, just for a laugh. Crank sites are always good for light relief.

http://ppsociety.com

I certainly did have a good laugh! PEE PEE SOCIETY. Ho ho ho ho ho!

Under ‘Active Comments” the thread “Wow....Fidex great.......”
One of your registered members (and therefore permitted to post a comment) said that he thought the title ppsociety rather funny, as in PEE PEE. I think he was taking the P I S S.
But did you hit the roof or what!!!!!!! Here is your mature reply. You love mature replies.


-----------------------------------UNBELIEVABLE.... I work my !@##@$$# ass off for you all, and finally the 'big server problem' is gone.. HAPPY??? NOOOOOOOOOOO... they start whining about something else.. (not only in the forums) THE @#!$ NAME?????????????? WTF ?!?! Do you have any idea how much I am paying for this all and even for people who technically I don't even know!!?! Why is it so important to you anyway?? Because you like to look at the name all day? Come on... I think I deserve a little more respect than this, and I take it as a BIG insult. I hope I never regret the many hours of time I spent for y'all.
It is IMPOSSIBLE to think of something which everyone likes, impossible. 
Don't tell me I take it all the wrong way, place yourselves in my shoes before judging again.
Pshhhhhhh...---------------------------------------------

Fidex, take a day off, all this phoney TK crap is obviously getting to you.
Broaden your horizons, read my site.

Have a nice day, missing you already,
Keith


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