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| Posted By: Martin Posted On: Jan 12, 2005 Views: 752 | Let's talk about theory!!! So you out there all want theory. I can remember a post where Keith screwed up the PPSociety's theory. What a world? Well I'll to the point. You out there want theory, every body wants it. THE theory that we Telekinesist are suppose to have and that you septics think we hide from you or just think we are completely dumb... The point is that there's no ****ing theory for TK already. For all you science lovers, don't you know that they DISCOVER what you all believe in right now? And don't you know that till they find something better than what is used, they will do the switch? Well for the only reason that science is "made" by human, we are not perfect(fiou), it may be wrong and they don't know everything. So stop asking an try to find out. Maybe your name will be in history or maybe you'll claim that I'm numb and it's wind and statics. I've made my point, the ear that can will understand(even if there no big secret in what I wrote) |
| Posted By: rob Posted On: Jan 12, 2005 Views: 745 | RE: Let's talk about theory!!! seems to be a very touchy subject this one. i originally asked the question of why do you think it exists? so is it because it should do? is it about time it happened,like a revolution? is it because you really feel it? etc, etc. it was just a simple question and like i said it wasnt an attack, im just curious thats all. This website is about theories with problems after all. It should be about debates. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Jan 12, 2005 Views: 739 | RE: Let's talk about theory!!! Martin. I have no idea what it is you are trying to say. QUOTE...... THE theory that we Telekinesist are suppose to have and that you septics think we hide from you..... Err, no. I have never heard that one before. What makes you think that? Septics! Hope thats a typo. :-) We all know there isnt a theory for TK already. That is what this debate is all about. Pay attention. QUOTE.....For all you science lovers, don't you know that they DISCOVER what you all believe in right now? And don't you know that till they find something better than what is used, they will do the switch? Martin, I have no idea what you are trying to say here, Please try again. Finally, You may be numb because of wind and static, who knows? |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Jan 12, 2005 Views: 738 | RE: Let's talk about theory!!! Rob, There are lots of theories put forward by TKers, ppsociety has some posted and have links to others. The problem is, I would suggest, one of definition. TKers do not actually have a single coherent theory. What they do have is lots of unscientific ideas, guesses, half truths, screwed up science and and a belief in semi-mystical, or mystical, powers. What I am looking for, and I suspect you are as well (correct me if my assumption is wrong because I hate assumptions anyway) is a science based theory, one that makes sense. I think the problem is that TK is only a belief, I do not think it exists. Those that claim to have TK I believe are mistaken. However, I know that many of them want to believe in TK so strongly that they will continue to believe in it no matter what. Comments on this board are proof of that, for some of them. This seems to prevent them from discussing the matter sensibly. TK is a belief because it cannot be proven, at least it hasn't yet been, and as such is not open to challenge. You cannot prove or disprove a belief. Therefore you cannot have a theory for it. If ever TK was demonstrated to be real, then a theory would be found for it. Until then it is not possible to have a theory, only a discussion about it. Most comments I have had from Tkers, either posted here, or even worse messages by email, are very negative regarding discussing the subject. Some are incapable. Only a very few are actually engaging in a discussion. People do not like to have their beliefs challenged. Hence the hostility directed my way. |
| Posted By: Martin Posted On: Jan 12, 2005 Views: 729 | RE: Let's talk about theory!!! Keith, ***People do not like to have their beliefs challenged. Hence the hostility directed my way.*** This is the reason of some wars you know? So you didn't get anything? Don't you ever heard of exaggeration to put some emphasis on an idea? Oh never mind... In other words, we all want a Good theory to prove or disprove TK. I guess that what people over the internet are trying to do is to find one good theory. Ok and secondly, A scientific theory need, in at first, to be found by someone. After that, they do experiments to see if the rule is correct. They will do theses experiments with, only, what they know for now. Exemple: a theory on the pollution on the earth was made and told us that the hole in the ozone will be filled before 2003, but since they invented cars and other thing that can make a lots of pollution this theory is totaly screwed up. The only thing i'm trying to say here is that science is not an incarnated god that have all the truth in his hands, so they may be wrong on some points. Be objective ;) I should revome the carpet in my house because the static makes my cat fly all over the place... Dumb cat. Learning from the sages and fools Keith ? |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Jan 13, 2005 Views: 718 | Let's talk about theory!!! "Learning from the sages and fools Keith ?" Yes, I am. Having read through your posts I have learned that you are a indeed a fool. 1) Scientist do not come up with a theory for no reason at all then go looking for something to prove it. They start with something that requires an explanation then try coming up with a theory that will explain it. Then they test the theory. That is why there is no TK theory because nobody has demonstrated TK to a scientist. Get it this time? 2) Since the technology has existed to measure the size of the ozone hole it has always been expanding. No scientist that I have ever heard of has claimed in that time that it will close up, they have all said it will continue to expand. How you managed to get this so wrong is amazing. Where do you gather your information from, Superman comics? 3) What has your cat got to do with any static associated with the rotating straw test? Martin, you are just so incredibly stupid you are wasting everyone's time on this site. |