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Posted By: Nick

Posted On: Feb 8, 2005
Views: 870
What a bunch of crap!

I agree with you Keith, most of the so-called "TK"ers can't argue their point worth crap. On the other hand, all I've seen from you is crap also.

You make these videos that are supposed to disprove telekinesis, or at least the most common ways to demonstrate telekinesis, but you don't explain them.

That would be like me making a video of my ability to vaporize objects, and actually showing an object vanish. Then I would tell you that it was fake. That would be all I would tell you. I wouldn't tell you how it was faked or anything.

Oh, yes, I have to admit you tell everyone how the uncovered psi-wheel was faked, and the straw. Haha, then you post all these other videos supposedly supporting your "scientific" method of debunkment. Nothing could ever be less scientific.


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Feb 8, 2005
Views: 867
RE: What a bunch of crap!

Nick.
You seemed to have missed the point I am making with my videos on the "Silly Stuff' page.
They are only there to show that videos that claim to show objects moving by TK are worthless because anyone can easily make them.
Simply because I do not reveal HOW I made them does not alter the fact that I did make them, without TK.
They are in no way connected to any "scientific method of debunkment", as you put it, and I have made that point very clear.
Why you should think that "Nothing could ever be less scientific" only demonstrates your misunderstanding of something that in reality is very straightforward.


Posted By: Nick

Posted On: Feb 9, 2005
Views: 859
RE: What a bunch of crap!

Nick.
You seemed to have missed the point I am
making with my videos on the "Silly Stuff'
page. They are only there to show that
videos that claim to show objects moving by
TK are worthless because anyone can easily
make them.

Hmm, that is interesting, since you point out in your page that you have proved that you don't need TK for the two most common experiments, but then lead us to a page where you have vids for everything. Tell me, what makes me believe that you're not blowing on the psi-wheel in your 'legitimate', i.e. not silly, example.

As a side-bonus:

Here are my reasons for believing that TK does not exist:

1) The two main TK stunts are not TK.
No, all you have done is just prove
that you can do them without TK.

2) I have never seen TK demonstrated.
Yeah, neither have I, except, of course,
demonstrating to myself.

3) TK has never been performed under test conditions.
I perform TK under test conditions all
the time. That is the only way I convinced
myself.

4) Nobody has claimed the Randi prize money.
Randi is a proven fraud.

5) No respected scientist in the world has ever claimed that TK exists.
Not true. PEAR, which is a respectable
orginazation, in a respectable
university studies telekinesis. They have
also proved the existance of micro-tk.

6) No scientific institute of any repute has ever claimed that TK exists.
See number 5.

7) No respected scientific journal has ever reported claims that TK exists.
See number 5.

8) I can think of no reason for believing in TK.
See number 5.

It's Princeton for crying out loud.....look at some of their publications...
http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Feb 9, 2005
Views: 853
RE: What a bunch of crap!

Nick,
I see that you have a serious problem with comprehension, a common fault with TKers.

My serious videos, showing how to rotate a psi wheel and a straw are only there for guidence. I give full and detailed instructions on how you can actually do it yourself, without any TK. It would be very silly of me to show, for example, the video of the mugs of hot water rotating the psi wheel if it didn't actually work, everyone would soon find out I was cheating! The videos are not there for proof, just as an illustration of how to do it.
So just how dumb are you?

You really are getting everything mixed up in your head. No wonder you think TK is real.

As for Princeton....where do they say that they have tested people for TK, such as spinning a covered psi wheel, and shown that it exists as a tested fact?
Correct, they don't, it's just you getting everything mixed up again, as per usual.
Wise up and stop making inacurate and silly remarks.


Posted By: Nick

Posted On: Feb 9, 2005
Views: 851
RE: What a bunch of crap!

A serious problem with comprehension? Ha....don't make me laugh. You're the one who seems to not comprehend me very well.

I know the wheel and straw are only for guidance, and I know you've posted instructions. Of course the videos aren't there for proof!! How dumb are you!?

I never said the videos were there for proof. I never said you didn't tell anyone how to do the wheel or straw. I never even said a word about the stupid mug shot(haha). You're the one that is miscomprehending me.

Therefore, from that stated above, it doesn't look like I'm getting anything mixed up in my head, so that personal attack in your post is therefore invalidated as well.

Look at the website!! You call me a moron!!! The have proved micro-tk, which is not the same as macro-tk, but you seem to tell ME what I said. you tell me what I said (which isn't what I said) then say it's silly. The only one silly here is you.


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Feb 9, 2005
Views: 845
RE: What a bunch of crap!

I didn't call you a moron, but as the saying goes, if the cap fits wear it.
I've nothing more to say to you, you are just being daft.


Posted By: Nick

Posted On: Feb 9, 2005
Views: 842
RE: What a bunch of crap!

Who's the one being daft? You're the one that attacked me by saying that I have some kind of comprehension problem. Up till that point I wasn't daft at all. You're the one who gets a kick out of "debunking" people on this forum, when in fact you are accomplishing nothing at all...


Posted By: cant say

Posted On: Feb 13, 2005
Views: 808
RE: really true

i grow up with a person that moved objects all the time
so i can belived it and i can have dreams that come true but i think that its all true and its not witch caft at all if you are born with it


 

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