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| Posted By: Nick Posted On: Feb 10, 2005 Views: 1455 | Psi-Wheel Movement This is answer to Rob back in the other thread. When the wheel starts to move, if I think about it moving, or if I think that I've started moving it, I will feel a surge in my brain and the wheel will stop dead. This happens while I'm getting started out for the first time. When I'm relaxed and ready to not think about it, I just concentrate and it starts spinning, thinking about nothing that has to do with spinning. Once it starts spinning, I can keep it going by keeping my mind clear, but if I screw up and think about the fact that the wheel is moving it will promptly stop. Before you say that this is a very good way to rationalize it and convince myself that I am moving it, keep in mind that I have kept it spinning for over a minute, and then forced myself to think about it spinning to promptly make it stop. That is shown in my video that I have made. I now, after many days of practicing, have done it through a covering, without my hand. That rules out heat from my hands, static, and wind. Coupled with that and the fact that I can still control it like above, convinces me that what I'm doing is a genuine phenomena. That is science: rigorously testing your hypothesis, like I have done. |
| Posted By: rob Posted On: Feb 10, 2005 Views: 1452 | RE: Psi-Wheel Movement ok cool we are getting somewhere. so what about distance then? can you make it move from a distance? |
| Posted By: rob Posted On: Feb 10, 2005 Views: 1443 | RE: Psi-Wheel Movement do you think its a communication thing? or do you think its an energy thing? |
| Posted By: Nick Posted On: Feb 10, 2005 Views: 1438 | RE: Psi-Wheel Movement I'm glad that I'm talking to someone who isn't trying to patronize me, because I've had enough of that. >so what about distance then? can you make it >move from a distance? I haven't tried from a great distance yet. I do most of my tests while I'm sitting in a chair with the wheel on the desk. I have tried getting it to start spinning, and then gradually moving further and further back by rolling in my chair. This usually results in me breaking my concentration, but on a few occasions the wheel continues to spin, but a little slower. >do you think its a communication thing? >or do you think its an energy thing? I'm not entirely sure. When it's spinning and I am concentrating and clearing my mind, I feel this "flowing" happening. That is the best way to describe it. Whether that's an energy thing or a communication thing I have no clue, but I'm thinking maybe it's both. |
| Posted By: rob Posted On: Feb 11, 2005 Views: 1429 | RE: Psi-Wheel Movement i wont patronize you, thats not my intentions but you have to remember that what you are doing is something that i and many others find hard to believe and when things like this are pumped all over the net,tv,papers the whole media without any explanation, it does make one wonder why? ive said it before take a look at this site, 68% of people believe tk exists, that means im out numbered not you, you are wining this argument without any real proof or explanation. anyway so where abouts are you performing tk? i mean what is your room like? have you tried it in an empty room? or what about outside? |
| Posted By: anomaly Posted On: Feb 11, 2005 Views: 1422 | RE: Psi-Wheel Movement When I'm doing TK I have to be in a certain relaxed and "ready" state, where my focus in on what I'm going to do. When I'm doing TK with my hands I sometimes don't feel very much. But when I'm doing it from two meters distance or more, I often feel a pressure in my forehead, and recently, in my left temple (I'm not sure why). Sometimes I also feel a tingling or a pressure on the top of my head. I have to make a connection with what I'm moving by focusing on it or not focusing directly on it (it's hard to explain). I hope this was what you were asking for. |
| Posted By: rob Posted On: Feb 11, 2005 Views: 1419 | RE: Psi-Wheel Movement have you tried it with the lights off in the dark with maybe just a candle or a torch going at the far end of the room? if you have the psi covered, what is at the base of your tests?is it wood? a table? metal? plastic? a tray? material? have you tried it on a bed of sand? which the sand would be on a concrete floor? do you feel any sensations in any other part of your body? can you make it spin in a direction of your choice? so you say you need to concentrate and clear your mind. but what are you concentrating on? what are you clearing your mind of? it sort of contradicts itslef if you concentrate on moving it, it will stop because your thinking about it but then how do you tell it what way to go? the big thing that bugs me and confuses me is that if this is based on quantum level then you are already in the room observing the wheel so how can you then command it or stop it etc by thinking or not thinking? do you feel any kind of strength in your mind when you perform tk? like a tension etc |
| Posted By: Nick Posted On: Feb 11, 2005 Views: 1409 | RE: Psi-Wheel Movement >so where abouts are you performing tk? >i mean what is your room like? >have you tried it in an empty room? >or what about outside? I do it in any room I can, which is every room I've tried. The room I use the most though is my office, which has no ventilation and is small (something around 10 feet by 5 feet). I'm guessing that if I tried it outside, the wind would blow it around and I wouldn't get it to spin. >have you tried it with the lights off in the dark >with maybe just a candle or a torch going at the >far end of the room? Umm, no. That has never occured to me. I have done it with the lights off, with just the streetlights lighting my window for light. >if you have the psi covered, what is at the base >of your tests?is it wood? a table? metal? plastic? >a tray? material? It's base is on my desk, which is made of wood. >have you tried it on a bed of sand? which the sand >would be on a concrete floor? No, I'm not sure why I would try this anyways... >do you feel any sensations in any other part of >your body? Yes, besides the buzz I get when I make it stop, I sometimes feel a tingling in my fingertips. I also get a headache if I keep it spinning too long without a break. One time I was at work and had to bug one of my coworkers for an asprin, because it felt like someone had shoved a pole through both temples. >can you make it spin in a direction of your choice? Yes. Like I said before, it is easy to get it to stop. To change direction, all I do it shift my focus (that concentration I was talking about) to the other side of the wheel. >so you say you need to concentrate and clear your >mind. >but what are you concentrating on? >what are you clearing your mind of? >it sort of contradicts itslef Forgive me, I wasn't clear enough. I clear my mind of everything except for what I want in it of course. A clear head concentrates better, as in when you clear you mind to prepare for a test. >if you concentrate on moving it, it will stop >because your thinking about it but then how do you >tell it what way to go? I shift focus. It's quite easy to do. Mainly I focus on the part of the wheel that 'peaks' on the four sides. If I shift my focus to the peak on the other side, the wheel changes direction. That is also what I concentrate on when I want it to start spinning. >the big thing that bugs me and confuses me is that >if this is based on quantum level then you are >already in the room observing the wheel so how can >you then command it or stop it etc by thinking or >not thinking? Well, I think it might be a quantum thing where the subatomic parts of the brain interact at a subatomic level with the wheel. By training those parts of the mind that you don't normally use, you can get better. For example, when I started I could only wobble it. It would never spin. >do you feel any kind of strength in your mind when >you perform tk? like a tension etc I don't feel a 'strength' per se, but I do feel that 'flowing' feeling that I told you about before. I guess in a way it's a tension, it feels like something is flowing from me and it gives me a 'tense' feeling in my head. I think anomaly is trying to describe that flowing feeling too. He says he needs to make a 'connection' with it, which is also somewhat what it feels like. |
| Posted By: rob Posted On: Feb 11, 2005 Views: 1397 | RE: Psi-Wheel Movement The bed of sand would stop any form of vibration, and your table made of wood would shrink in a warm temperature, so i was just trying to suggest you to try it out on more of a solid base to see if the results are the same or slower etc so can you start the wheel spinning with no hands? have you tried it with your hands behind your back? |
| Posted By: rob Posted On: Feb 11, 2005 Views: 1396 | RE: Psi-Wheel Movement also yes your correct about it blowing out side thats why i suggested it, you could try it and see if it span faster. (this would be a covered psi) im not trying to find a cause im just curious. |
| Posted By: Nick Posted On: Feb 11, 2005 Views: 1392 | RE: Psi-Wheel Movement >The bed of sand would stop any form of >vibration, and your table made of wood would >shrink in a warm temperature, so i was just >trying to suggest you to try it out on more of a >solid base to see if the results are the same or >slower etc Well, I have tried it on other desks. For example, the one at work is not made of wood, but a synthetic material. And it works the same. >so can you start the wheel spinning with no >hands? Yes, and I've done it many times. For some reason I'm led to believe that whatever force that moves it originates from my hands. This is because when I do it from a distance, it works better when I point at it. Don't ask me why... I can also, from across my entire office, just look at the wheel and and clear my mind to get it to wobble. >have you tried it with your hands behind your >back? No, but I had my hands on my lap, under the desk. They were at least three feet away from the wheel, seperated of course by the desk itself, which is about two inches thick. >also yes your correct about it blowing out side >thats why i suggested it, you could try it and >see if it span faster. (this would be a covered >psi) > >im not trying to find a cause im just curious. So you're saying to try a covered wheel outside? What would be the point of that? I mean, I purposefully blow at the cover and accomplish no movement whatsoever, so wind is not 'leaking' in. |
| Posted By: rob Posted On: Feb 12, 2005 Views: 1378 | RE: Psi-Wheel Movement yes thats fair enough if you have blown on it and theres nothing leaking in, but what about the equiptment in your office,elecrticity,pcs,heaters, etc etc, maybe try a complete dead empty room? |
| Posted By: rob Posted On: Feb 12, 2005 Views: 1377 | RE: Psi-Wheel Movement have you a link to your vid?? |
| Posted By: Nick Posted On: Feb 13, 2005 Views: 1366 | RE: Psi-Wheel Movement >yes thats fair enough if you have blown on it >and theres nothing leaking in, but what about >the equiptment in your >office,elecrticity,pcs,heaters, etc etc, maybe >try a complete dead empty room? I've done it in my dining room...witch have anything in it. It even spun faster in there I think, but that could just be an illusion. >have you a link to your vid?? Yes. I have a video with me using my hand, but not one under cover, if that's what you are asking for. I haven't made a recent one using my hand, since I just started doing it and I haven't brought my webcam back in to work yet. www.cryocode.com/Psi.zip I'll make a new one this coming week with no hands... this video is so old. |
| Posted By: Nick Posted On: Feb 13, 2005 Views: 1364 | RE: Psi-Wheel Movement Umm....I'm sorry, it's really www.cryocode.com/Psi.wmv |
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