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Posted By: I.L.A

Posted On: Jan 1, 2006
Views: 1516
To everyone who dose not belive in TK

ok just because you THINK tk dosent exist dosent mean it dosesnt if you take the time and lean about tk (not just from this keith guys article) and you try you will be amazingly suprized at yourself. I have done it before with a psi wheel you have to connect to the object and tell your sub c. (i would spell it out but i cant) what to do its fairly easy you just have to start small and believe.


Note: horrible at spelling.


Posted By: Grant

Posted On: Jan 3, 2006
Views: 1502
RE: To everyone who dose not belive in TK

I'm more surprised that people keep playing around with the psi-wheel and using it as a bases to support TK. I know you THINK TK is real but sometimes WANTING to believe TK is real gets in the way of what actually isn't real at all as in your case. I don't expext you to agree with my last statement but thats my opinion. You go on to say that "you just need to start small", well i'm sorry to say but 'small' just about sum's up TK. Moving a psi-wheel or a Straw is about as small as you can get when we are proving TK, it has about as much credability as...............let me think.............nothing!!!

You are waisting your time with a psi-wheel but let me know when you get onto 'bigger' things...


Posted By: Brittany

Posted On: Jan 4, 2006
Views: 1495
RE: To everyone who dose not belive in TK

Did you even take 5 seconds to READ the article about psi wheels?! Do you understand anything about heat currents?!

Sorry, hate to burst your bubble, but just because you want to believe that spinning a paper wheel is TK doesn't mean it is. It's just plain physics. Simple, boring, physics.


Posted By: Jay

Posted On: Jan 5, 2006
Views: 1489
RE: To everyone who dose not belive in TK

I think everyone who practices TK is very aware of the wind influencing the wheel, and for those that aren't... -ahem-. Lets just PRETEND then that I was able to move the wheel while a glass see through container was covering the wheel. Lets say I was able to move it without touching the object or surface of which it was laying on and I still managed to move the wheel. So in short, I put a cover on top of the wheel to rule out any possibility of the wind, heat, or static acting upon the wheel. Now im not saying I believe in TK but im making this scenario because im curious to how this would be explained.

Note: This cover in which I speak of is commonly used by those who claim to have telekinetic abilities.


Posted By: Placebo

Posted On: Jan 11, 2006
Views: 1474
RE: To everyone who dose not belive in TK

Keith's reply to that is usually something to do with touching the glass, and causing air movement inside the glass through heat.
I find that hard to believe however, at least not from the examples I've seen.


Posted By: Grant

Posted On: Jan 11, 2006
Views: 1471
RE: To everyone who dose not belive in TK

I think the word 'pretend' sums up that test Jay.

I havn't seen any footage where a cover has been used and I can honestly say that the experiment was genuine. Placebo do you have any good links, where i can see TK performed under a container of some sort?


Posted By: Jay

Posted On: Jan 11, 2006
Views: 1468
RE: To everyone who dose not belive in TK

I have a link to where you can see multiple videos on people doing TK on objects under a glass container. Of course you can never tell for certain if anything at all is genuine now a days because of technology. I found the video with the toothpick to be the most interesting even though it can obviously be easily faked, but just because it could be re-created doesn't mean that it was. Seems like almost anything can be re-created one way or another now a days. So I'll leave it up to the viewers to decide wether they want to open there minds up or not.

http://www.psipog.net/media.php


Posted By: Steve

Posted On: Jan 14, 2006
Views: 1460
RE: To everyone who dose not belive in TK

Iv'e seen tk. on a fork!
explain that.


Posted By: Grant

Posted On: Jan 16, 2006
Views: 1452
RE: To everyone who dose not belive in TK

If it is the same as the one I've already seen then it is without a doubt a fake, you would have to be so naive if you believed it to be real.

Have you a link, or should we believe what you say?


Posted By: Placebo

Posted On: Jan 18, 2006
Views: 1442
RE: RE: To everyone who dose not belive in TK

Alegiojon created a video for Keith.
He ended up having to touch the glass at some point, and only after removing his hands he got some success for a while.
Unfortunately I can't find the video, but I'll keep looking. It wasn't posted online, so I'd also likely have to get his permission to do so.

BTW, Keith's explanation was in fact that his hands caused air currents.


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Jan 21, 2006
Views: 1436
RE: To everyone who dose not belive in TK

Re Alegiojon's video:
Algiojon said he could move a psi wheel when it was covered and without using his hands, and he sent me a video of it.
The glss cover did in fact have an open top funnel, a bit like an old fashion wick lamp, it made a 'chimney'. The hole at the top was only loosly covered easily allowing expanded heated air to escape.
He was unable to move the psi wheel. Eventually he placed his hands around the glass for a while, which effectivly warmed up the air inside. He then let go and the wheel moved a bit.
That test cannot possibly qualify as a hands free covered psi wheel, I can do the same trick, no TK required, just warm rising air again.
Sorry to dissapoint.
Keith


Posted By: Grant

Posted On: Jan 26, 2006
Views: 1421
RE: To everyone who dose not belive in TK

I checked a couple of clips from the link jay provided. I could only get the video with the penny to work but again just a poor test set up. The person who done the video showed the glass but then performed the test where you were then unable to see the top of the glass. The penny moved as if someone was lifting it not by TK but by some other method. The penny didn't move side to side but lifted up and it was the same point of the penny that lifted. Again not a great test...



Posted By: Placebo

Posted On: Jan 29, 2006
Views: 1407
RE: To everyone who dose not belive in TK

Most of the videos you'll find are not recorded for controlled, scientific examination. Besides, how would you prove that on a video?
They're generally created to encourage other's attempting to do the same.


Posted By: Nasser

Posted On: Feb 27, 2006
Views: 1282
RE: To everyone who dose not belive in TK

Ill give you links to footage if you want

real proof

just pop me a mail

nvdp2002@yahoo.com


Posted By: Grant

Posted On: Mar 6, 2006
Views: 1255
RE: To everyone who dose not belive in TK

Errrrrrr how about you just give us the links, that way we don't need to waste our time emailing you...


 

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