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Posted By: raven

Posted On: May 4, 2008
Views: 3235
real telekinesis proof

I wasn't going to post a story of my claims of performing telekinesis until I realized there was a way to prove it to the average reader. First of all it can never be proven to anybody by show or explanation. The only way for a person to know it's real is for them to experience it for themselves.

Telekinesis is not any electromagnetic force emanating from a person's body. That is Chi which is something different. Chi also has the power to exert a physical force on an object. For example, when a martial artist breaks bricks, his hands don't actually hit the breaks, but they "shoot" chi out of them which breaks the bricks. This chi is an energy force fom the body, and as stated is different than telekinesis.

Telekinesis is identifying so closely with an object that you become one with the object as an expansion of your recognition of the total ONENESS of ALL. (that may not make sense until you think about it)

Telekinesis is not moving something WITH your mind, as this implies that your mind is separate from the object. All of the universe is MIND, and just as one drop of the ocean is all of the ocean, each of our minds is part of the totality of the ONE mind. When we identify ourselves as separate from the universe we can't do telekinesis. When we identify ourselves as one with all, then we can use our thoughts to move other parts of our self-if you can feel what I mean...


some examples of when we unknowingly do telekinesis are sports. For example, shooting a basketball, throwing a baseball, bowling, golf, etc. Sometimes we get into a certain type of trance where we feel like we ARE the ball and are actually flying with it and guiding it. That's a small idea for reference of what it feels like. The idea is to mentally connect with the object as if it is a part of your own body and just move it as easily as you would your arm.


Now, past the wordy intro & to the point: HOW TO DO IT

The best to start with is incense smoke. For one, it's easiest and flexible. Also it will leave you some time to doubt it-to get adjusted to the shock of having actual PROOF BY EXPERIENCE! If you made a quarter move across your kitchen table your foundations of reality would be shaken so fast that you would probably lose your mind. With the incense, you'll get excited when it works, but still look around for other explanations while gradually accepting that it is in fact telekinesis.


NOW, HERE' S THE PROOF!!!

Find a way to set up an incense as far away as possible at least 10-15 ft away from you in an area free from drafts or fans or moving objects. Sit motionless with your mouth and nose covered by your shirt or a cloth, etc. Focus on the smoke rising from the incense, and determine which way you want it to go. Feel yourself become one with it, then REMOVE ALL DOUBT that you are connected with it, then move it.

HERE'S THE TRICK TO MAKE IT WORK

Now I can tell you I've done this a few times after failing many others and when I did it usually took at least 20 minutes or more to make it move once and then start moving with my thoughts. That would be difficult to prove and difficult for many to prove for themselves...There IS a way to make it work ALMOST IMMEDIATELY!!! The answer is actually quite simple, and has been right in our face all of the time!

3 people sit together and focus on moving the smoke!

Somehow the power of the collective is so much stronger! When I attempted with 2 others, we had it going in less than 2-3 minutes, then every time we said left...left...right..right...etc it would move te way w said immediately. All I can say is that it did it to the point where we bugged out, laughed, got emotional, kept trying to disprove it, repeating it, until we finally knew within that it was real...

PEACE


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: May 4, 2008
Views: 3230
RE: RE: real telekinesis proof

I have read some crap in my time but your comment has to be way up there with the most stupid.
You honestly think
"...you made a quarter move across your kitchen table your foundations of reality would be shaken so fast that you would probably lose your mind..."
You are kidding right? This is a joke right?
I think you must have already lost your mind.
So what you are saying is that all those people who claim to have TK and claim to be able move all manner of objects have probably lost their minds? You know, you have got a point there.
You really think that chi exists? Never mind, let's not even go there.
If you really want to show that you can move something with just the power of the mind then I would have though it to be bleeding obvious that you need to select an object that does not move of itself. So what do you do? You elect to move smoke!!!! Unbelievable!!!
You are most definitely a sandwich short of a picnic.


Posted By: Someone

Posted On: May 4, 2008
Views: 3222
RE: real telekinesis proof

People simply do not think this through. Rather, it's a cry to 'believe' in something, when the world around them is not enough for comfort. I dislike stereotyping, but it comes from a majority. In my opinion, the type of people who believe in such things all have similar characteristics in life entirely. I won't go into detail on that. Merely to say...

If TK was real, the natural, typical, human behavior would kick in. Ever hear of power in the wrong hands? Come now. Cars truly would be flying by now. If such a power was accessible to humans, we wouldn't have to question if it was real or not. It would be painfully obvious. Far too many overlook the human behavior. But..No flying cars. No breaking news on what phenomenon this girl or boy did. Nothing. Instead, we have people 'believing' it to be true. Dismiss logic occurrences of science involvement, or just make things up.. Just 'believe' it to be true.

Why believe it? Because it makes their world turn. Don't fight them on it. They NEED to believe it, and refuse to hear anything else. Even God allows mankind to question His existence. Matter of fact, wants mankind to open their minds and seek Him (not mockingly, but actually wanting to know honestly). As simple as that. If TK believers don't accept questioning, other opinions and possibilities.. Then what in the world ARE you believing in? And are you sure it is true then..?


Posted By: binks

Posted On: May 6, 2008
Views: 3210
RE: real telekinesis proof

and this is exactly it... opinions everyone has there own opinion and the only way to prove of disprove anything is by experience i have no side in this but jumping to conclusions is one of the most aragant things you could do if everyone said no that cant happen then it wont but who is to say that it doesent for **** sak e an electric eel emits thousands of volts from its body
....if you never saw that would you think its possible? i would Imagen not. the amount of information we know about are universe is so minuscule that it is almost funny we are civilized. all im saying is do not jump to conclusions and criticism isent the answer everything in this world is a collaborative effort on everything so keep it that way

Zachary Binks


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: May 6, 2008
Views: 3205
RE: real telekinesis proof

Zachary Binks, or shall we just call you cj?
Only cj writes as bad as that!
What on earth is the connection between the existence of the electric eel and the possibility of TK existing?
Just because you find the electric eel to be unusual doesn't mean that it is possible, or even likely, that TK exists.
We know the eel exists, we can go look at it and even get a shock from it. We do not have any proof for the existence of TK.
You may choose to believe TK may exist, but that is just a personal choice made on wishful thinking, you do it based on no evidence whatsoever.
Some people believe in angels, some in fairies and so on, people believe in all sorts of things.
What you need to do is be able to separate belief from fact.
I stick with the facts. If people can do TK then do it and prove it then when it becomes an accepted fact I will believe it.

Until then I continue to say TK is a load of bullsh*t.


Posted By: Everythings Possible

Posted On: May 11, 2008
Views: 3168
RE: real telekinesis proof

In the US it is innosen until proven guilty that the country is founded on, however it has become transposed, so now you are guilty until provin innocent. As this was twisted so is everything.

When you were a kid, did you go around saying that something couldn't happen simply because you couldn't see a/o touch it? NO. In fact is was quite the opposite, but now that is how you react to something that is beyond your programming. And I truly feel sorry for you.


Posted By: andres

Posted On: May 11, 2008
Views: 3163
RE: real telekinesis proof

so you’re basically open to believe in any ignorant comment that you read, like that of raven. You choose to think that what he said may be true, instead of question it and see what makes it ignorant and stupid. You don’t seem to understand that there are things that just can’t happen, not just because you “don’t see them or touch them” but because it’s physically impossible, we’re on the 21st century, we’re able to say what can’t possibly happen and what might happen.


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: May 12, 2008
Views: 3157
RE: real telekinesis proof

It seems to me that some people still live in the past where it was believed some people had magic powers.
Witches on flying broomsticks etc. (those magic mushrooms have a lot to answer for).
This is the 21st century, why still believe in magic?
This has nothing to do with being innocent until proven guilty, or vice versa. It is all to do with people making ridiculous claims and then failing to give a demonstration of proof. Any idiot can make of claim of supernatural powers, but none can demonstrate it.
Why do you suppose that is?
For those unable to work out the answer, its a shame to have tell you this but you need a reality check, you live in fantasy land.


Posted By: Kilam Kizar

Posted On: Jul 1, 2008
Views: 3013
RE: real telekinesis proof

I completely agree with this man. If telekinesis REALLY existed would we still be on the ground? Would we be using guns when we could kick everyone's butt matrix style with "psi shields"? Would our troops be shooting the hell out of each other when they can just make each other explode in a load of guts?

The answer is YES. We would enter a type of "Final Fantasy" Age where everything would be MAGIC and not technology. You people who believe in TK or PK or whatever the hell you call it need to grow up and learn about what those drugs are doing to your brain.


Posted By: Chi

Posted On: Jul 22, 2008
Views: 2981
RE: real telekinesis proof

Though the description above is wrong of how to do it, it is possible to use the chi around you. I have done it.
Heard of Tai-Chi? With it you can basically collect the chi, for you then to use. With correct control of the chi you can do various things.
Ones that I have personally done are:
'The unbendable arm'. You place your arm over a friend's shoulder, palm upwards. Using muscle is easier to bend than using chi.
More power to strikes. Again a case of the chi being stronger than your muscles.
Use sixth sense. We had one person close their eyes and another slowly reach out towards them, some can reach out and take the hand, others can simply sense something coming towards them.
Move objects. Though this isn't the type of movement you are all thinking of, something suddenly flying through the air. One person held a wooden sword and the other used the chi energy to push the sword in a certain direction, it moved gradually, you could see it and the person holding it could feel it moving, or at least 'wanting' to move.

I know most of you will find a way to pick at all of this, but I know it is possible and so nothing you can say will change my view. It's really something that you have to do to understand and probably believe.


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Jul 22, 2008
Views: 2977
RE: real telekinesis proof

Chi,
You can believe in chi all you want, personally I would like to see some proof. Oh, I almost forgot, you can do chi.
Why not go claim the million dollars from Randi. (Holds breath and waits for usual excuses why can't claim).
Seems like we have all been here before......


Posted By: Tom

Posted On: Sep 21, 2008
Views: 2889
RE: real telekinesis proof

Please, do not believe this idiot. People want to believe in something, they want to believe that when we die we go somewhere, that if we concentrate on something it will move, we are humans, animals, we became more intelligent in order to survive. all we our is our mind, and we make assumptions that we want to believe because it will give us peace. Humans are mostly idiots, there is only a few who aren't.


Posted By: PaintedDemon

Posted On: Sep 28, 2008
Views: 2875
RE: real telekinesis proof

Everyone knows telekinesis only exists on the sets of Hollywood movies, makes for good story lines.

Anyway, trying to connect the lack of telekinesis with the belief of an afterlife, is probably the most ignorant assumption any person has ever attempted to correlate.


Posted By: Faith

Posted On: Nov 10, 2008
Views: 2800
RE: real telekinesis proof

Oh, come on... just because its the 21st century does not mean that TK does not exist. If you must know, miracles have happened before, and thinking that TK does not exist is paramount to saying GOD doesn't exist. GOD most definitely exists, but it depends on whether you believe. The bible says, if you have enough faith and tell a mountain to move, it will move.That's the big problem. no one has enough faith. no one believes. that's why its so hard to prove whether TK/GOD exists as there is no evidence. Only testimonials. my church has recieved several testimonials from tumour patients and they have said that by attending church they have survived.By the way, Living proof of these miracles exist. I, myself find life brighter and it compels me to try things.TK especially. Although it is too late, I'd like to say that these Opinions should be kept to oneself or shared with other skeptics. My ex-tuition teacher practices Chi Gong, and he can do some cool stuff. But everyone on this site is admirable. Defending their personal beliefs to a great extent. Its a good start on faith, but will it falter when put to the test?


Posted By: Faith

Posted On: Nov 10, 2008
Views: 2799
RE: real telekinesis proof

On a further note to Kilam Kizar, one of the reasons why TK isn't proven publicly is because it could be used for the exact same purposes you stated in your comment. If the whole world knew that any Tom,Dick or Harry could do TK, we'd be having a crisis alot worse than the current market crash.Besides, TK is not Magic. TK is more of mind over matter than incantations and symbols. The supernatural does exist as it has been scientifically proven, so why not supernatural POWERS?It has been scientifically proven that ghosts exist. If you trust science so much, why not go balance on 2 glass cups whilst balancing on 2 legs of a chair and on the edge of a roof 50 storeys high?I don't have to prove that its possible because it's already been done. so why not you trust science with your life? I don't trust science with my life even though i love it.I trust GOD with my life because it was him who gave his son for us. And if your not christian and some other religion,believe in him/her because science won't always help you.


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