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| Posted By: josh Posted On: May 2, 2009 Views: 1001 | open mind i think that there is a middle ground everyone should be on with tk. yea it hasnt been proven yet but black holes where just a threory at one time and people dident think they existed now we have sp and no one questions it. now scientists are studying another theory of worm holes with no proof yet some scientists believe in them. science is always changing and we need an open mind to everything there are many things in this universe that we have no clue about we should never jump to conclusions even when there is no proof |
| Posted By: beliver Posted On: May 2, 2009 Views: 999 | RE: open mind think of all the things man kind has been able to do while only using a small perecentage of our brian i think with out a doubt its possible but i have yet to see anyone prove it. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: May 2, 2009 Views: 985 | RE: open mind There was lots of mathematical evidence suggesting that black holes might exist, that is why scientists took it seriously and looked for them. It has nothing to do with having an open mind and thinking that anything may be possible. The myth about only using 10% of our brains was dismissed as nonsense years ago, check it out. PS. As both of the first two comments are by the same person please stick to the same name instead of making out that someone else agrees with you. |
| Posted By: Mitch Posted On: May 3, 2009 Views: 978 | RE: open mind "i think that there is a middle ground everyone should be on with tk. yea it hasnt been proven yet but black holes where just a threory at one time" But there was solid *circumstantial evidence* of black holes before they were proven to exist. There has been no reasonable circumstantial evidence to assume TK *might* exist. What you're suggesting is that it's reasonable to assume that TK 'might exist' because of the notion that 'anything is possible'. Because that's all you have to go on. Just because anything is possible doesn't mean it's reasonable to assume one particular concept, TK, which is scientifically impossible and has never been documented to have existed, is one of those concepts that's on the borderline. Possible yes, reasonably possible? no. a big difference So the debate about TK is not equal, there is no 'middle ground'. the people who think TK is real do not have equal grounds to state that TK is real. They have no proof and no credible RUMORS of proof. In otherwords, they're asking to us to seriously consider that a fairy tale might be real, and that's supposed to be reasonable? *Anything is possible*? You have to do better than that before you earn valid credibility. |
| Posted By: Mitch Posted On: May 3, 2009 Views: 977 | RE: open mind And by the way, when I refer to TK as a 'fairy tale' it doesn't mean I'm ruling it out as possible, it means I've looked at the evidence and looked into the rumors about it and that's the conclusion. Some people are easily persuaded into thinking that just because an issue is referred to as being 'possible' it means there's a valid chance it might be real. That's ofcourse not always the case. |
| Posted By: Anonymous Posted On: May 21, 2009 Views: 935 | RE: RE: open mind ....Yet science itself is just a theory... Of course, I'm not saying science is false. People are starting to prove teleportation, telepathy, et cetera through quantum mechanics. Your claim, Mitch, only applies to the macroscopic level. Of course, I can also be horribly wrong; for the time being, people who believe in "psi", "qi", or whatever you wish to call it must wait until quantum mechanics is able to prove it's existence. We, as in people who believe in the life force, must wait. Just on a side note, people who are psychics are dangerous. Most of them are power-driven bastards who wish to exert their power over others. It's depressing how "bad" humans can get these days. For example, most buddhas have psychic powers; their goal is not to exert their authority and power over others, however; there are more important than that. Their main goal is enlightenment or helping others to reach enlightenment, nothing else. Unfortunately, somoene slipped the secret out about psychic powers; people who have not gone through the strenous years of discipline and wisdom use their powers for their own desires. Logically, we're screwed then; they have no idea what can happen to others in the long run. *Sigh* Sorry; I tend to digress when I converse about these touchy subjects. In conclusion, TK is possible, but not in the realm of science; however, keep in mind that science itself is a bunch of theories. It's like geometry; we have a bunch of axioms and create theories out of those axioms. There are no facts to begin with, seeing as no human has ever seen the universe model and the "fact sheet" of it. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: May 22, 2009 Views: 930 | RE: open mind It´s always the same, whenever someone comes on supporting TK, chi, life force, whatever, their arguments are always wrong, their "facts" always wrong. For instance: "People are starting to prove teleportation, telepathy, et cetera through quantum mechanics." This is pure nonsense! There is no "proof" whatsoever. I get tired of hearing people say there is proof when the fact is there simply isn´t! Also this gem: "It's like geometry; we have a bunch of axioms and create theories out of those axioms. There are no facts to begin with...". Again this is pure nonsense. A triangle with sides 3,4, and 5 will contain a right angle. Any circle´s circumference divided by it´s diameter will always give pi. The angles of a triangle will always equal a straight line.... and so on. These are facts, they are not man made assumptions. I just wish, that just once, someone who supports all that TK etc. nonsense would actually get their facts right. But then if they had their facts right they wouldn´t believe in all that crap in the first place. |
| Posted By: Will Posted On: Jun 27, 2009 Views: 877 | RE: open mind (Sarcasm) Wait what????!!! Fairy tales aren't real? Since when? I think you need to get your facts straight buddy. Little Miss Muffet, The Three Billy Goats, Puff the Magic Dragon, Shreck, Donkey and myself had lunch just the other day. I have pictures damnit!! (/Sarcasm) Peace, Will |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Jun 27, 2009 Views: 874 | RE: open mind Try not to get too upset about fairy tales not being real, I will tell you a REAL fairy tale. By walking 2 miles to the shops instead of driving, the pollution you cut will save the world from unimaginable destruction, even though the Chinese are building new coal fired power stations at the rate of 1 every week. Feel a bit better now? |
| Posted By: Rose Posted On: Oct 16, 2009 Views: 744 | RE: open mind I agree that we should keep an open mind on whether telekinesis exists. However, that does not mean that everybody should accept it. It means people shouldn't say "it doesn't exist, period" but people shouldn't say "it is absolutely real, and I don't need proof" either. I personally do not believe that even half the people who claim to have TK actually do have it, but maybe there are one or two people out there who really do. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Oct 16, 2009 Views: 742 | RE: open mind I couldn´t disagree more, we should not keep an "open mind" on TK. TK has NEVER been demonstrated, it would only take one, just ONE, person who claims they have TK to walk into a lab and demonstrate it and it would become scientific fact. It has never happened, despite many thousands of claimants for many years saying they can. Odd isn´t it? Not one serious scientist (as against a quack claiming to be) has ever said it exists, odd isn´t it? If I claim to be able to levitate would you keep an "open mind" on it? I doubt it very much. If I claim to walk on water? Same. You would be, and are, very judgemental in what you are prepared to keep an "open mind" on, it will only be the things that YOU accept may be possible. As I say, that´s judgemental, others will disagree with some of your "open mind" things and you will disagree with some of theirs. That is why we have facts, you can´t be judgemental about a fact and don´t need an "open mind". I stick with the facts. They speak for themselves. For "open mind" substitute "I am prepared to believe in some things, of my own choosing, that have no proof they exists whatsoever. Other things with no proof I will choose not to believe. In other words I simply pick and choose what I consider to be possible." That statement is far more accurate than saying you have an "open mind". |
| Posted By: Telekinesis could be real Posted On: Jul 21, 2010 Views: 597 | RE: open mind I love what rose said. My post says that we should be open minded. I don't say telekinesis is completly fake or real. We can not know for sure yet. I do look for facts, but another thing is I acknoledge and I greatly push other people to recognize this as well, just because you find a piece of information on the internet doesn't mean it is valid. Skeptics and beleivers alike that have put good idea's and facts alike out there though, thank you. It seem's to me skeptics should run their own tests, which some do, but they need to do more than show how telekinesis can be faked. Beleiver's have to show proof, which obviously has been said many times before. Great post open mind, thankyou! |