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Posted By: HopeBringer

Posted On: Oct 16, 2010
Views: 1406
PRO FACTS OF WILLPOWER STRENGHT

KEITH: AS THIS IS A LONG AND HARD TO FOLLOW POST I WILL INSERT MY RESPONSES IN THE APPROPRIATE PLACES TO MAKE IT EASIER.

well i don't know how to start ... so ill start by mentioning some things>>> im not a whatever society is that member ... second of all i agree with you that they are low-lifes who just are bored of being normal people and are trying to make people think they're dunno what **!*!* but i do not entirely agree with you ....

first of all a french ( forgot his profession ) named baraduc used the kirlian photography on his dead wife seeing a spiral above her head , misfortune made his son die too but he used the experiemnt this time at the time of the exod(not sure of translation exodului (romanian ) = moment of death :)) going to the other world blah blah ) and saw 3 spirals .... which makes us ask the question (not really related ) HOW WOULD ARTISTS know of that spiral SO LONG AGO when tehnology wasn't around ... someone must have had at a moment supernatural powers to see them and represent them as that the rest just copied;))
KEITH: WHAT ARTISTS?

second of all someone registred the weight loss of 30 grams at the moment of death ... which asks the question why? as its not water loss or other such things ... ( so unexplainable still it may be the loss of energy !, not sure if energy weights but best option if you ask me so far )
KEITH: URBAN LEGEND, NEVER HAPPENED. NO LOSS OF WEIGHT HAS EVER BEEN RECORDED AT MOMENT OF DEATH. SUPPLY YOUR SOURCE OF INFORMATION.

3rd we all heard about philadelphia experiment ... which sustains the ancient belife of yoga ... many dimensions each having dirrect effect on the one we live in , other such things as human chrakas etc
it only makes sense if what really happened was a dimmension travel ( as i do not have acces to classified information not sure so don't really take it as correct but it does somewhat represent a posibility so don't take it out just yet )
KEITH: ANOTHER URBAN LEGEND, IT NEVER HAPPENED, ALL THE DATES AND PLACES ARE WRONG, DO SOME SERIOUS CHECKING.

4th HUMAN CHAKRAS ARE PROVEN SO ARE ENERGY VESSELS
by science AND THEY EXISTED IN ANCIENT CHINESE ACUPUNCTURE
So we have to ask ourselves HOW DID THEY KNOW THESE THINGS
its clear they had a hunch (if we go from the premise)
if you're not looking for it you won't find it , doesn't apply to everything but at that time in history how would they have the means to find it if not by self-knowing and high level of self-consciounes , so using them could somehow prove the means to knowing them ... )
KEITH: CHAKRAS PROVEN BY SCIENCE? YOU NEED TO SHOW YOUR SOURCE OF INFORMATION FOR THAT PIECE OF NONSENSE.

5th AT the end of the cold war KGB fiels got out about registered paranormal activities , not human entinties and unexplained things )
KEITH: TRY AGAIN, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY.

6th Each country has a parapsihology center .. my mom received training ... it doesn't mean moving objects but more like concentration training and eficiency improvment .. but it does have a vast connection to mind power over body
KEITH: WE CALL THEM TRAINING SEMINARS, PEOPLE GO THERE TO IMPROVE THERE WORK EFFICIENCY. NEVER HEARD THEM CALLED PARAPSIHOLOGY CENTRES BEFORE, IT'S USUALLY THE STRAND HOTEL.

6th SO AS A REMINDER THERE ARE MANY SCIENTIST WHO ACKNOWLEDGE THE EXISTENCE OF PARANORMAL ACTIVITIES AND TELEKINESIS IS A PARANORMAL ACTIVITY (beyond understanding )
KEITH: IS THAT SO? CARE TO NAME SOME OF THEM? FIRST I'VE HEARD OF IT.

7th MANY RELIGIONS MENTION SUPERNATURAL POWERS JESUS LEVITATED ETC ETC ETC don't know what other saint did what blah ... the fact i wanted to high-light is that relegions says GOD the creator of all gave us powers to use in need >> all thats left is to have the willpower to use god's gift ! as that guy in rome who run so fast coz the empire was being invaded and died after that ... an example of human will-power , so will power does have an amazing effect .. determination can win you heaven ( exageration ) but huh:
KEITH: THAT'S THE FIRST I HAVE HEARD GOD GAVE US "POWERS", THOUGHT HE ONLY GAVE THEM TO JESUS? YES, YOU CAN EXCERCISE YOURSELF TO DEATH IF YOU WANT, BUT SO WHAT?

SO as an ending ill mention my own personal opinion
telekinesis is indeed possible but those online societies are truly scams lets remember the sightseeing in europe at start so many scammers appeard ...

KEITH: WHAT ON EARH HAS SIGHTSEEING GOT TO DO WITH ANYTHING HERE?

a one way ticket to fame or to make yourself pose as someone you are not ... STUPID and useless people with nothing to achieve in life
forgot to mention even thought all the facts i mentioned are about human energy etc etc i wanted to state that HUMAN does have a power he is far from using

KEITH: AND YOUR PROOF OF THIS IS WHAT?

.... so saying its imposible is not something we should state proudly

KEITH: BUT IT'S OKAY FOR PEOPLE TO SAY THEY CAN DO IT?

...as for it being so easy as people to post 10000 videos on the net don't belive it
but as i mentioned each state has a parapsihologic institute ( army ) to make better trained soldiers ... make them more eficient ..

KEITH: YOU ARE KIDDING, RIGHT?

or not army but academic ... but still a research and it does give some results .. improving mind power , determination increasment etc ...

KEITH: SO "PARAPSIHOLOGIC" HELPS SOLDIERS BE BETTER KILLING MACHINES AND ACADEMICS BETTER AT DOING CROSSWORDS?

AND PEOPLE CAN enter hibernation too :)) 1 man was burried underground 1hour (india) in a small coffin almost enought air for 10 minutes i suppose ...this proves humans can do amazing things beyond normal limits ... as for moving objects with mind who knows ... yet i admit you proved most are scams ... and probably all are :)) as you don't post on net so you help others do it:))

KEITH: EH?

human = greedy animal ... keeps all for himself :))

KEITH: SPEAK FOR YOURSELF, THERE ARE PLENTY OF DECENT CARING PEOPLE OUT THERE!

or makes it public for fame :)) in the end it comes to interpretation of one's greed O.o
damn you're gonna get bored if i write more things .. but lets remember guines book of record of staying at dunno what temperature for how long ... most would die as naked at more than -1 celsius in 1 hour could certanly freeze a man to death ... but they last for how much 3 hours a day huh ..

KEITH: YEAH, HUH.

in the end it comes to people to choose wheter they take what i said to them as proof of human will power

KEITH: WHAT PROOF?

enought for a fact that telekinesis is possible

KEITH: YOU REALLY THINK SO?

but not for everyone as not everyone can be einstein or stalin or napoleon ...or choose what you said enought as a proof that its not possible ... as for if they belive someone can do it its still up to our 2 view of points ...me with my opinion of army research ( as no1 will clearly state what they're doing in those barracks and people don't talk that much without getting a bullet in their brains , if there indeed is smth )

KEITH: YOU DON'T APPEAR TO BE TOO WORRIED ABOUT GETTING A BULLET IN THE BRAIN FOR REVEALING ALL THIS AMAZING CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. OR MAYBE YOU ALREADY HAVE, IT WOULD EXPLAIN A LOT!

or your opinion that all are fraud just coz you proved most internet TK videos are fakes ...which you did .. anyway respect for the work you put into the site as i didn't really know they were fakes as on first impression they certanly did look good to me :)) well anyway im 13 so my fizic knowledge is kind of low :)) and reminder i did not do the kilian experiment myself yet ... planning to do it ... its quite easy i heard from my dad

KEITH: YOU ARE ONLY 13? WELL THAT WOULD EXPLAIN WHY YOUR POST IS SO IRRATIONAL. YOU ARE TOO YOUNG TO HAVE OPINIONS ON THE THINGS YOU MENTIONED, STICK TO YOUNGER SITES.



Posted By: Blah

Posted On: Oct 16, 2010
Views: 1404
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im the one who oppened the tread ... forgot to mention that religion is still a questionable proof .... as even i think religion is bull****:)) i was just stating that people from that time wanted and studied those phenomens ... and i don't remember people doing something for so long when theres no hope ... kind of like accupuncture :)) even thought probably no1 ever got to levitation we can presume some moral improvments were made as even science agrees that some sicknesses are mind-related ... but it also prooves that telekinesis isn't something we could state as very plausible:)) as a long time passed and theres no actual proof of these things happening:))


Posted By: Blah

Posted On: Oct 17, 2010
Views: 1393
RE: PRO FACTS OF WILLPOWER STRENGHT

re me again

1st you're being to sceptical .. i mean for a sec i feel like you're not even trying to see it as possible ... isn't that just going to a no from the very good start:)) and stop using caps its giving me headaches O.o
2nd what artist how the *** should i know who drew the very first saint picture?? and made it with a spiral above his head :))cmon im not god to know everything
3rd you said i talk about dunno what secret information
sorry man they're about just posibilities of what happened in the philadelphia experiment... i mean saying how the experiment was conducted IS STRICTLY CLASSIFIED , so im just going on about ways of it happening
4th are you god to know what people really think want and are like ?i leave in romania ( which is in europe if you're an asshole and don't know and start calling my country a 4th rate country ) we from the start of our existance we're denied most of our culture by russians turks romans .... and that doesn't make us weak as each time we fought bravely against much more enemies with our farming equipment not dunno what kind of very good sword ... if that makes people clean nice and beautiful how do you explain my brothers bloodshed you ****ing moron ?
5th its your intrest to do some research on the info i just said ... AND HEY MY SOURCE OF INFORMATION IS GENERAL or from books dont just ask me to pinpoint everything for you and start reading books as the books i read are romanian , very old as my grandpa worked at the place that writes book ( forgot the word ) and got me thousand of biochemistry , etc etc books ( thousands is an exageration but enought to fill a room and a half , not small rooms :)) ) and in your so high-society country you won't ever find one >>>
6th BLAISE PASCAL AND MUCH OTHERS WHY THE **** SHOULD I TURN BOOKS AND BOOKS TO SEARCH FOR NAME FOR YOU .... if you DID NOT RESEARCH DON'T ASK ME TO DO IT FOR YOU
7th in europe there was a time at the start of sight-seeing with very many frauds ... it was something to compare the current situation of very many TK''ers right now
8th you said age matters ? hey ... were in the age of tehnology you grandpa are left behind as i clearely proved above :)) or you're not that smart to go to a library and read on the net and start saying possible not possible his idiot he can't talk blah blah ... chill out man and try to judge before refusing to accept my information and accurate research and say that and that ...you say i should show proof ? why ... i just offered you some information to research on and maybe correct some of the information you already offered ..
9th THE 30 GRAM WAS INREGISTRED BY DOCTOR DOUGALL !!
and in the end i like to mention some of the things i mentioned before the kirlin experiment proves the existence of biocamp ( a shield like energy taking the body form ... wich is the spiritual field of energy .... now lets not jump from reality to sci-fi as if to one can use it or not its to one's decision to belive or to not belive but its also known that the biggest one saw with the special glasees ( don't know what its about .... neither me nor my father made the experiment with the glasses maybe you will research and find out whats about if you find it in the bit interesting ) and with
the glases was seen a bigger biocamp than at the others :)) the usual one being 80cm's long
and in the end i mean if god made us all did he not make our biocamp too and is not the soul of the energy and spiritual level ? is it not .... :)) now its all up to interpretation of thy soul ... im not religious so don't ask meto much about god :)) im just stating religion was always about body and soul :)) and many saints did many amazing things .... could be the existance of self-control ( mind over body ) and meditation the one thing that won them they're so called miracle's :)) ...a clear mind can do wonders .... judge your actions in a not very calm moment of your life think about it and see what you would do if you weren't so angry at that moment >>> mind over body - >> know yourself ( jesus said it ancient greece philosophers said it and blah blah )
and once again write in another color or smth not big words trust me its stresfull and it implements shouting ... only dumb and mad people shout ...
and if what i said gets you mad ... lets remember what you said ... its up to discusion ... im not doing videos im not wasting thousands of hours trying to move a pen im just stating that there are aspects of human body yet to be understood .... so anyway ...


Posted By: Blah

Posted On: Oct 17, 2010
Views: 1391
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oh and an autor of these kind of books about parapsihology is victor duta .. ( romanian ) try searching it but i doubt you will find it ... you see romanian books never made it out in the open world :))
oh and one more thing did you know romanians made the first rocket 300 years ago ?
do you think its to scifi ? rockets 300 years ago when england people said it was impossible in the first world war ? ... well on the net i doubt you will find anything about it ... and btwn the ones who said the plans for making it was true and not false were the english people :)) so stop being so judgefull of what can be done and can't be done :)) im not saying tk is very likely to be possible but if rockets 300 years ago when people were still using swords was possible can we really go on and be so ****ing stuck up ? ..... ok i understand we have to question what we see ... and i really like what you did i did not know those things could be made like that .. ok i agree i do not know so many fizic and i agree its because of the age but that does not mean i can't talk about things i have a little bit of an idea about and as you stated it wasn't proven to be true or false so my opinion values as much as everyone else ... and if not it means you're near your death and are probably a ex-KKK member who hates black people kids and women .... :))
anyway going back questioning is one ... answering so violently to someones oppinion is opressing one from saying what he thinks ... so i hope we can talk like normal people probably as somewhat of a degree of friends and talk pro or contra ... not demanding anything as i didn't demand nothing of you ... you can ask if i have or if its just my opinion :)) but don't demand coz thats rude :)) and btwn its the first time you heard of the soul being talked like the gift of god :)) ? its about interpretation ... as you can't feel the soul you can't see it i presume if its there that its of a spiritual level :)) just like the biocamp ( and sorry for constatly using this word to hard to find an accurate translation ... if there is one and online translate doesn't really work as bio=bio ( same in both languages ) and camp=field :))but i think that isn't the real translation and if it is strange oh :))


Posted By: Blah

Posted On: Oct 17, 2010
Views: 1390
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oh and i meant getting a bullet on your head for showing to the public eyes more information than out in the open as at that time even thought it was kind of kept low the dissapearance of a warship IS HARD TO overlook ... lets be serious man :))
anyway what i meant with the kgb is that at the end of the cold war and when the KGB was destroyed some information and some videos of dead entities only the biocamp remmaining of them were out in the open :)) okay probably most of it was still kept quiet or maybe it was just a publicity stunt but i doubt serious TV posts like discovery and etc make this kind of absurd documanteries about the information that did get out :))
ok we can talk conspiracies ... or maybe there is none ... its all up to one to decide in what he belives im just saying that if what they showed is true its the proof of the power of the biocamp ( WHICH was already proved by the kirlian experiment )
we're talking ifs and thats what you're doing too ...
maybe im making sophisme's ( dunno real translation sofisme , means going from dumb ideas and making them very logic ) or who the **** knows .. nah anyway im probably going for pages on the very same idea ..and any way i take it i just end up at the start ... i can't prove what wasn't yet done ( or was already done but kept under a strict acces ) but i can come up with reasons why we shouldn't be contra ... we have to take it as a posibility until its proven wrong :)) we don't have to belive we just have to accept that small chance of it being donable :))


Posted By: Blah

Posted On: Oct 17, 2010
Views: 1388
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talking about army eficiency:)))
hey do you yourself think that concetration and confidence plays an important role in your succes ?
i think it does
and thats what they tried to do in those test... tryinf to find a way to make people more eficient:)) keep the problem at hand and forget the rest until it becomes the problem at hand :)) as i told you what i observed from reading a parapsihology book is that CONFIDENCE has a very important role .... do you know what a trance is? its true it exists and its used in taiwan they for they god they self-mutilate ( not sure if taiwan or another but around there:)) ) kids of 10 years old causing themself inches deep wounds .. not crying not screaming ? thats a trance THATS CONFIDENCE ... and thats what they wanted to obtaion out of the army soldiers:)) killing machine with no pain no tears no mercy:)) and not students ... they did it on citizens ... to make them better in whatever they do .... trying to give them a confidence boost ... :)) make them and influence them for bigger greatness:)) mind over body ... body doesn't mather blah blah etc:)


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Oct 18, 2010
Views: 1384
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I used capitals because otherwise it would be very difficult to distinguish between our comments.
When you mentioned artists after talking about kirlian photography how was anyone supposed to know you were referring to old paintings that showed saints and holy people with halos? You never mentioned halos, only spirals in photographs! I am not a mind reader so that is why I asked what artists you were talking about. Is that so difficult for you to understand?

You said that "there are many scientists who acknowledge the existence of paranormal activities". I asked you to name some. You came up with just one name, Blaise Pascal, and he was born in 1623, believed in the supernatural and can in no way be described as a scientists. You are talking nonsense.

I will leave you to it.


Posted By: Blah

Posted On: Oct 19, 2010
Views: 1380
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not sure what halos mean :)) anyway
pascal was a matematician so its science >>>
anyway i told you if you really search for names you will find a lot ..
and ok i understand the capital :)) but ask and if i can i will answer O.o demanding ( i repeat is rude ) and its not about truly proving here:)) im just saying my own opinion :))-.- as i mentioned its about what you choose to do to belive or not to :)) _>_ im trying to show the existance in little manners not of telekinesis but of the power of thy human brain :)) as you're very doubefull of what the brain can do O.o :)) telekinesis or not we rule this planet ... our brain rule all our motions :)) if we can build things that pickup tons probably we will one day do it without it : and intuition is not the same as luck :)) yoga has been practiced for thousands of years and one day they will either make progress or dissapear : and probably you're thinking yoga now is a stress-reliever ... well not in india so _>_ time will tell until then try to be open minded as remember we only use 10% of our brain :)) and with these 10% percent we're going into space :)) thinking of what a full use of the human brain could do small telekinesis tricks is trivial if you ask me :


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Oct 20, 2010
Views: 1378
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A halo is the circle of light shown above the heads of saints and other holy people in old paintings.
You said we only use 10%of our brain. This is nonsense, a myth that was started years ago and is untrue. We use ALL of our brain, we know this by using scans. EVERY part of the brain has a known function. We also know that when any portion of the brain is damaged it results in the loss or reduction of a function. Do you honestly think that 90% of your brain could be removed without any ill effect? "Don't worry Mr Kennedy, the bullet went straight through your brain but luckily it was part of the 90% we don't use. Take these headache pills and go home" That is to show how ridiculous that argument is. Look up about only using 10% of our brain and then stop saying it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10%25_of_brain_myth

Also, just because we have machines that can lift hundreds of tons does not mean that one day we will be able to do it without the machine. Why would that miracle happen?

There is no reason to believe in TK, if it could be done it would be easy to prove, but no one ever has. You can choose to think it may be possible if that makes you happy, but most of us require a reason to believe in a thing. I may as well believe in faries as TK, neither have any proof but both have people that believe in them, for whatever strange reason.

It is one thing to keep an open mind, that is a good thing, it is another thing entirely to believe in something when there is absolutely no evidence to support it because that is moving from having an open mind to being naive and gullible.


Posted By: Telekinesis could be real

Posted On: Nov 5, 2010
Views: 1357
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Like Keith said that scientest was from the 1600s, wtf can that mean. In the 1600s people depended on beleifs alot more than they do now. Considering we didn't know as much then it was easy to get someone to beleive in the supernatural if they didn't beleive in it already.


Posted By: Keith

Posted On: Nov 6, 2010
Views: 1354
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Yes, before people were educated they believed in the supernatural. These days we look to science to explain things, and no longer believe in magic tricks, well most of us don't. Some simple minded folk are still prepared to believe pretty much anything, including TK. Shame really.


 

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