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Posted By: Peter Flack

Posted On: Jun 3, 2005
Views: 713
RE: Control

There is a Greek word I just recently learned from the movie "Assault on Precinct 13". It was Lawrence Fishbourne who said it, playing the gangster "Bishop". I am not sure how to spell it, _ Aero-stophitos?_ Love and Sex , or Death. To nullify Greek warriors from thoughts of dying. Maybe that is what **** is implying. But of course we see $$. Hmmm. Price on my head? Chicken feed? Chickens have backbones. 1 million is enough for me if as long as I am not threatened after. Who if anything ( Not a reference to Keith Mayes,- -- I can understand your silence to me now I think -- -) would look at 1MIL like chicken feed for the kind of telekinesis I have? What ever kind that kills isn't meant to be worth more. I would be absolutely satisfied. O.k.- ever even hearing of what I have makes chicken feed look like Fort Knox was just a tool shack, and all we need is just some bucket to feed " the little ones ". Zack is this any clearer?


Posted By: Zack

Posted On: Jun 3, 2005
Views: 707
RE: Control

A few metaphors I am not figuring by the single post.
- Chicken Feed
- Chicken Backbones
- Fort Knox

If I am reading you correctly. This is what I am parsing out. You have the type of telekinesis that kills. And you do not want to use the telekinesis because of it. Correct me if I am wrong.

You claim you have telekinesis. However, I am not sure of what kind of telekinesis you are trying to claim. Internal, External???

I want to tell you something about vibes young padawan. A "Vibe" is the term for the psychological input you get when you are in the presence of a psychological output. It is not a phenomenon that vibes are present. It is perfectly natural to feel when someone is sad, happy, glad, depressed, is cheating on you, and so on. However, you have to be careful, for that, these vibes can lie to you. And that is why, assuming things can be devistating. When I have a vibe, I do not act on it until I have some physical proof.

The vibes I feel from you Peter Flack, I sense someone that needs to ask questions, instead of answering a question that cannot be answered by the vibes coursing through your body.

What is more weird, is that you will search for your answers in a movie. Albeit, I do sometimes hear some interesting theories that movies will have. But that is all they are, theories.

The Matrix, I love to watch, gave me some ideas on some of the questions I have. But it is only a new theory that I have. It is not a belief, it is just a theory.

If you are able to do the telekinesis. You can come over my house. I am not one to call the cops on you because you can move an object with your mind. I would be the one, asking questions from you, so that I may accumulate a new theory. Perhaps a theory that works. It would be the best discovery since mankind was able to manipulate fire.

If I get you right. You believe that the million dollars would be an inadequate sum of money for your telekinesis. I agree, if you knew telekinesis. You would probably have a higher paying job than the President of the United States. I would pay you some money, just to listen to your ideas. And so would hundreds of millions of people.


Posted By: Random1

Posted On: Jun 3, 2005
Views: 697
RE: Control

this is getting interesting :-)

Zack seems to steer away from verbally bashing people and sticking more the questions. That always makes for a good post. But a little insulting is fun too...


Posted By: Random1

Posted On: Jun 3, 2005
Views: 696
RE: Control

sticking to the questions*


Posted By: Zack

Posted On: Jun 3, 2005
Views: 694
RE: Control

> Random1

Sometimes you have to listen, to help.


Posted By: Peter Flack

Posted On: Jun 4, 2005
Views: 686
RE: Control

Zack, do you in any way find it even ironic that in the opening page of this sight, that the 2nd time mentioning the JREF challenge- the paragraph after mentions at the end something about a fortune? The metaphor of the million dollars ( not to just "give away" to someone I might add ), would be insulting to me? What kind of fortune? All I use the telekinesis for is scientific study and education, and I am really originally not interested as it is. I am an artist and intend to be involved in making my own fortune from the million dollars. I don't think the metaphor is very easy to take considering, TK and its proof - by definition- being mine, is only originated from the inside. To prove it exists is from what I can gather is to measure the currency to the point it can kill me. Do not take it as wording that it WILL. Proof is from internal, to external (passing from one hand to the other), then to the point it must end in grounding. So as to not injure myself permanently, which is against the rules of the JREF challenge.


Posted By: Peter Flack

Posted On: Jun 4, 2005
Views: 685
RE: Control

You can't see it, you can't hear it. It is there, only as proof the paranormal exists. Supernatural is defined, in laymens terms - of being invisible to the naked eye,(ear), in a force. That being driven as by some invisible entity, in an un-observable universe. With the exception of the Guass/Tesla meter reading the currency. Yes you see it rise in numbers, probably hear a beep or two. --------- Chicken feed, not a million dollars. ---------- Scared to death? Get a backbone chickens have them, you want to "feed" them don't you? --------- What chicken feed? The one in the 5 gallon bucket in the tool shed, that "proves telekinesis exists in the physical for the first time in human history". Right, moving "something" without touching it. A 5 gallon bucket in a shed the size of a gymnasium full of gold? There is no price for someones life. The JREF is not "giving it away", it's a challenge.


Posted By: Peter Flack

Posted On: Jun 4, 2005
Views: 684
RE: Control

I do want to use it, TK, I know it kills. I don't have to worry about it killing me, Ive practiced for twelve years. Ive done the same thing to one arm when I hold it up. It nearly paralyzes, until I use the other arm to shake it up, back to normal again. So thats what happens to the rest of the body using both arms (hands). It isn't pins and needles (cutting off circulation). The blood pressure slows down due to lack of gravity through electro-magnetic force. Nearly paralyzing. Do not get me wrong, I am not afraid to use it.


Posted By: Peter Flack

Posted On: Jun 4, 2005
Views: 683
RE: Control

Random1: who bashed who? What is chicken feed, and why compare it to what someone can do? This is TK for others, in life. It is my life.---------- The library closes at 3p.m. today, and I have to work all day. It closes tomorrow and monday. I don't know when I will get back. I know I said "I'm out of here"... well the last few segments of my words was me "on the way out". I am almost out...because this site isn't working out for me too well anymore.


Posted By: Peter Flack

Posted On: Jun 4, 2005
Views: 680
RE: Control

I have some time left.I figured I would point something else out. I know of a site, where $1000 is offered for proof of TK. There are others, that offer $50,000 for supernatural/occult powers. What is it, if I hypothesize this: Why prove I have TK and get $1,000 and turn around and prove the same thing for $50,000? Then, $1,000,000? For the same power, mind you. Why go through all of that - I mean, there is a question of my morality and some speck of greed in me. I can't be that way. Well, $50,000 without anyones help is fine, at first. So I can get equipment, ample assistance from two people, and the two doctors notes - then be on my way to the JREF prize. It's reasonable..somewhat. It is in a way a "bootsrappers theory" in physics. The $50,000 is as simple as half-way up the "mountain". While all along, people on one side would wonder "why didn't he just go for the million in the first place?". The other kind, (like whats been happening on this site....o.k..o.k.. I admit it.) "Peter! What are you crazy? No one is going to trust some total stranger, just out of the blue like that.PFFFFT! Who do you think you are? How is anyone supposed to take such a leap of faith and trust you would get the $50,000 back?". When it comes down to it, just simply getting tested in a facility automatically reveals the truth, and would the JREF just be like-" O.K. we believe you now, but were sorry to say you are exempt of the challenge. Leave room for someone else." .......(sigh)....Well, right why not. Science, I said I had no interest in, but by all means I will support whatever educational effort is ever asked of me- no problem. I haven't told my parents yet. I can't just make some scientific breakthrough and come back to my job after, I need a career option. I work for a living, yes. Why should it be without 1MIL after the history is made. I will look like some "freak of scientific nature" doing dishes for people cooking food again. Customers will walk in all f#@%ing buggy eyed like - "who the H%#@ are you?" GHEESH, get a life man. > You know what my other problem is? I can't do the art I do here because of the people who live here. I wouldn't be able to sell it, because its too "out there" for them. > I'll come back to town with 1MIL and say "mom , dad , I have telekinesis. I also have 1MIL so I am going to leave town and go back to college, and pick up where I left off in 1993- when I couldn't pursue it then. I am officially starting over. O.K.?" "no I wasn't as crazy as you thought I was." "mom heres that new house you wanted". "dad, what DO you want?". ...That is my situation..I work for rent, and money...my sorry-ass is histories first on the lowest of pegs on a latter...sick of it all..


Posted By: Zack

Posted On: Jun 4, 2005
Views: 677
RE: Control

Mr Peter Flack >
First off, much clearer.

I know of a site, where $1000 is offered for proof of TK. There are others, that offer $50,000 for supernatural/occult powers. What is it, if I hypothesize this: Why prove I have TK and get $1,000 and turn around and prove the same thing for $50,000? Then, $1,000,000? For the same power, mind you.

I have already dictated in a previous post that I felt people who have the capability to do telekinesis would have all the riches you need. Heck, an individual with that type of power can use itto disable alarm systems. Can use it to open a bank vault and easily carry money out during the night. Maybe using the telekinesis to move all the cameras out of the way.

Yeah, I know what most of you tk believers are thinking. "ooo, that so turns me on". It is trying to get a date with Paris Hilton or Jennifer Lopez :O. She keeps turning you down. Probability is against you.

Zack, do you in any way find it even ironic that in the opening page of this sight, that the 2nd time mentioning the JREF challenge- the paragraph after mentions at the end something about a fortune?

Fortune is one of those individually percepted words that I have brought up before. Good, bad, evil, powerful, weak. They are all individually percepted words. Probable that most humans find million dollars a fortune.

Proof is from internal, to external (passing from one hand to the other), then to the point it must end in grounding

You bring up an interesting topic I had never thought of before. Grounding of the energy you have.

I will have to do some studying on that. However, here is my half-hearted theory on that subject:

I feel that the energy is used up all the time. Consider when you are out jogging, you are using the energy through-out your body to run. But after you run, your heart is producing an elevated volume of blood. This excess energy I believe is then transformed to a fat burning mechanism to burn the fat away. Where else does the energy go to? I feel that there are many things the body must do. And I believe the body needs every piece of that energy to balance itself. So therefore, there doesn't need to be any grounding at all.

>> One thing I noticed

When I am meditating. And when the energy is concentrated in my balled up hands, my hands tend to always move together. Perhaps there is a magnetic aspect here that takes place. Or perhaps when you are thinking about generating energy, it is really your mind slightly moving the hands together.

Here is why I feel this. I work at a resort on an island in Florida. One of the things that they have there are Segways. They are upright two wheeled deelys you stand on, and you lean forward and move, and lean backwards and go backwards. Really fun things to ride.
The segway operator would go around the resort and teach people how to ride these segways. One of the things he tells them to do is think about moving forward; they move forward. Think about moving backwards; they move backwards. What happens is the segway senses the very slightest of movement you make on the contraption. It is sensitive to 100th of a second, keeping tabs on your slightest of movements. This is not magnetics, but it is your brain actually changing your center of gravity. I think people do not realize that there are points in the body, called center of gravity. You can move them with your mind. Here is an example. Stand up, and start thinking about leaning forward. Do not actually lean forward. Just think about it, real hard. Pretend there is a ball at about the pelvis area of your body. This ball represents your center of gravity. Now move that ball forward a little bit. You will realize you will move forward.

There is a center of gravity in the arms and hands and fingers. It is kinda like drawing a person with circles. When I am doing my meditation and trying to generate energy. I believe those center of gravity points are moving via the brain. So do not think of it as an unnatural phenomenon.

>> Another thing

I have extensive training in kung fu. One of the things they teach you in kung fu, is to use the gravity points, to move your body, instead of thinking about it. Because when you get into this mind state, your body will move on its own to block someone's attack or to advance an attack. You're able to detect the very slightest movements when you are only concious of your gravity points. That is why you see jet li or jackie chan so quick and fast in their karate moves. They are concetrating on their own gravity points, and also concentrating on the gravity points of the opponent. Trust me, just by reading this post, you can learn how to fight a lot better.

A small story: I was in a park up in Michigan. My aunt, started walking up to me to scare me. I immediately felt someone's hand grab me. I almost flipped her over my shoulder, because my mind is already set to protecting itself.

Some people feel that these gravity points are actually phenomenons. It could very well maybe; an energy that drives your electrical system to move your body in certain ways. And it does require only your brain's thought to move your gravity points.

Back when I was like 13, long time ago, I listen to a few audio tapes. The audio tapes described how you could think about your arm moving, and it would begin to move. You have to clear your mind. And then the tape described how you can move your hand up to your forehead. When your finger is close, the idea is to send the point of gravity that is in your hand, into your head. You will then have the feeling of your hand passing through your head, except eventually you will feel the finger tip pressing against your forehead.

Perhaps this feeling of energy in the same place your head is, is actually energy you are controlling. Or perhaps your mind is just tricked in thinking that. And if it was tricked into thinking that... Then perhaps, it can be tricked in thinking that it can do telekinesis.



Posted By: Zack

Posted On: Jun 5, 2005
Views: 670
RE: Control

> Random1

Some words of criticism, just to make you happy.

You are a mofo. You cannot spell things that you do not know how to spell!
Your brain is about the size of your brain, and you still know how to think!
You have a problem with authority. Yet your ability to do what they want is impeccable.
Your nose is brown. Chocolate ice cream right?
Your theories of telekinesis are perposterious. They are way over the limit. You have no ability to see the facts.
You are an idiot. You are so unintelligent that the iq test read a negative read.

So, have you had your fill of criticism?


Posted By: Placebo

Posted On: Jun 7, 2005
Views: 663
RE: Control

Zack,

Thanks for the post about the points of gravity - it was thought provoking.
However could it not simply be the power of imagination and sub-conscious?
Ie. you think about moving forward, and, well you do. Just a tiny bit.

Moving dense/gravity points around in your body sounds like it would be something relatively unknown, and worth investigating. And it may explain the chi sensations that martial arts + psi practitioners experience.

There's always the slim chance that it reveals aspects of ourselves we did not know before :)

I'm gonna do a bit of research on this topic - see what's out there. I'll try avoid going into the fuzzy depths of the large topic of chi / qi though. Been there, done that.


Posted By: Peter Flack

Posted On: Jun 7, 2005
Views: 660
RE: Control

Zack- "CHI" is the energy that which moves through all things. You can't meditate on a segway, you will get 'out of order'. James Conrad the TK ( ironic that he lives in FLA down there with you ) states out of his formula for TK that there is Z.P.E. This I have mentioned ( maybe you missed it? ) zero point of emotion. It means in the body during my "telekinetic phase" the mind is almost shut down to the point of half-sleep half-awake. The very moment my hands start to hurt from the force of the shock, I have to pull them away from each other. I have managed to allow currency to be at an even pace with the breathing and the heart rate so to allow the "wake up call" of the shock, and the Z.P.E. to combine. It does mean, in conclusion, that I have to at least at some point of the 'phase' have an emotion. It does not mean that I can't empty all of my thoughts and emotions and 'act' as the conductor, but you see - it has to come back before I am shocked to death. Another thing, Keith, I said 1MIL was enough. I am not 'pushing' for over the presidency. Another- You don't understand the irony of comparing 1MIL to chicken feed at all do you? You see, I don't understand why Mr.Mayes didn't claim the prize. If he has no T.K. but purposely moves things without touching them on video- why not claim the prize? Like what someone said earlier which I am trying to figure - ( was it 'bluetears' or 'saphyre') " Keith you are scared.". He disagreed - but maybe there is an imposter - I don't know. I am keeping a fair silent agreement with him so I am absolutely sure he doesn't go in two directions. C'mon Zack!!! 1MILLION DOLLARS, the painful, unending irony. Explain it. How much chicken feed? Who IS eating? What farm? Where is the 'tool' shack? Am I going to miss it? It's too big to miss.


Posted By: Peter Flack

Posted On: Jun 7, 2005
Views: 659
RE: Control

Random1? What-ever Zack said the last time. I totally disagree. Insults are not funny though, and if anything you have to understand that 'bashing' is way off the boundary of insult. Insult is for those who deserve it. "Bashing" is just fun that is mistaken for anger. Criticism? Well, Zack, man...be more constructive.


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