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| Posted By: Inpersonator Posted On: Feb 12, 2007 Views: 1249 | Question about Conservatism I have a question to conservatives. Why are you better than liberals? If liberals are more pro-choice, pro-environment, and ending a war what is your argument for your movement? |
| Posted By: BP Posted On: Feb 12, 2007 Views: 1244 | RE: Question about Conservatism You probably believe in Al Gore's Global warming too!! The conservative movement is going to keep this country together. |
| Posted By: You Tool Posted On: Feb 12, 2007 Views: 1240 | RE: Question about Conservatism Global warming is a fact and except for a few morons such as yourself everyone knows that. Not that it matters because there enough of you that will say it doesn't exist until it is too late. I bet you will be the first one there pointing fingers at everyone but yourself for not doing something sooner. |
| Posted By: BP Posted On: Feb 13, 2007 Views: 1214 | RE: Question about Conservatism How is it possible that Humans have ruined a world in the past 100 years that has been around millions of years. Your leftwing liberal teachers have brainwashed you into taking their teachings as proof. Remember the ice ages??? |
| Posted By: Posted On: Feb 13, 2007 Views: 1212 | RE: Question about Conservatism You might want to try cracking a book open yourself instead of parroting the Bush administration. There is a lot of evidence and I'm thinking your comprehension level is not all that high so it is going to take you a long time but I would suggest starting with the ocean's natural conveyance system and how human effect has it very close to shutting off. Once it goes off it takes 150 years to restart. Your analogy doesn't work. It is like setting fire to a city and then saying fires happen all the time in nature. Before you go off on another "I don't have anything to say so I'll call you a leftwing nut" rant, I am not a liberal or a conservative. I prefer to think on my own. |
| Posted By: impersonator Posted On: Feb 13, 2007 Views: 1202 | RE: Question about Conservatism ok ridiculous question here, but stick with me....I'm all for moving away from fossil fuels and on to electric cars, cutting down pollution in any way possible, and all that riff. But, I was thinking....after we move into the new ice age and everything is all frozen over, would it possibly be a good idea to start polluting more so that we move through it quicker? I know this sounds like it might be ridiculous and all, but hey, anything's possible right? peace and love |
| Posted By: weeze Posted On: Feb 13, 2007 Views: 1199 | RE: Question about Conservatism i don't get it even if al gore is wrong isnt it good to do what he says we should anywayss? |
| Posted By: Posted On: Feb 13, 2007 Views: 1193 | RE: Question about Conservatism I think whether we conciously decide to or not, another ice age would cause us to greatly increase our pollution just because we would be burning everything we can find to get warm. Might be a problem once the ice age is over, though, since we'll then have a huge global warming problem going on. |
| Posted By: Posted On: Feb 13, 2007 Views: 1191 | RE: Question about Conservatism It really wouldn't be an issue since another ice age will kill off a majority of the world's population. The planet is not able to provide enough food for 6 billion+ right now. Lose 60% minimum of cropland and that will be it. |
| Posted By: Hal Posted On: Feb 14, 2007 Views: 1174 | RE: Question about Conservatism LOVE the "fire in the city" analogy. Spot-on. The only argument I have for the conservative side is only relevant in the semantic sense, but doesn't actually help anything: aren't humans, essentially, a part of nature's ecosystem? Humans are - in a manner of speaking - natural, organic entities. Of course, we're smarter than lions and baby seals and plankton, which is why we both CAN screw things up worse (a monkey's technology is generally limited to hitting another monkey in the head with a rock), and SHOULD make an effort to use our enormous brains (relatively speaking) NOT to screw things up any worse than we have to. Or whatever. |
| Posted By: Hal Posted On: Feb 14, 2007 Views: 1173 | RE: Question about Conservatism Also, BP, a conservative movement kept Germany together after WWI. Try not to go quite that far.... |
| Posted By: BP Posted On: Feb 15, 2007 Views: 1154 | RE: Question about Conservatism Hal are you a socialist? |
| Posted By: Posted On: Feb 15, 2007 Views: 1152 | RE: Question about Conservatism Nice reply. Absolutely nothing he said equates socialism, moron. |
| Posted By: Hal Posted On: Feb 15, 2007 Views: 1150 | RE: Question about Conservatism Okay. I didn't say anything explicitly socialist, but, yes, I do believe that government should exist for the benefit of the governed. As such, I feel that the government is in some sense responsible for the well-being of its people. Implicit in the idea of "popular sovereignty" is public responsibility for things like healthcare (yes, that means socialized medicine) and the "social welfare" (please look it up if you immediately spit bile upon hearing those words). Otherwise, under what warrant does the government govern? Because they have the guns? I sure hope not. Our government seems to exist currently for the well-being of Dick Cheney's stock portfolio, rather than for the populace at large. Which makes sense, since the USA isn't exactly a blood-in-the-streets revolution kind of a place. Philosophy and practice are totally disconnected as long as people prefer security to their other rights. I'm not some crack-smoking welfare dad or weird-haircutted "Daily Worker" hander-outter or anything, but, hey, how about a few more of those tax breaks to people BELOW the upper class, Mr. President? Incidentally, I hope BP isn't trying to catch me in a word-net based on "National Socialism," because modern Germany (i.e. French Revolution until today) was my secondary focus during my undergrad work, and I have a really good handle on philosophy of government...the wording makes for a nice trap, but I'm not going to fall into it. |
| Posted By: Someone Posted On: Feb 17, 2007 Views: 1132 | RE: Question about Conservatism I have a tough time believeing these enviromental scares after what ive seen of them. I remember getting pamphlets about the rainforest, that it was going to be gone by 2000. Well i believed them and when 2000 rolled around the rainforest was still there and very much intact. I havent heard anything about it since. Dont get me wrong i do believe global warming is there and could pose a problem, but i know it wont kill off humanity or anything like that. Whats funny about the liberal side of this is some of the top world scienctists got together and pretty well decided that it was irreversable. The liberal politicains then decide we need to shut down factorys and that they would do it if you vote for them. Being the tools that any hardcore partisan voter is, the extreme left bought it. I ask you what do you actually want done, close the factorys? Lay off millions whos only source of income is working in these places? Make it mandatory to buy overpriced hybrid eco-safe cars so these now laid off people either need to put there life savings in a new car or not have one? The Democrat party isnt for the people anymore, its for the nut jobs. |
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