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| Posted By: wiseguyly69 Posted On: Apr 20, 2004 Views: 365 | A Kill Bill Vol 2 snippet from Boston . com Vol. 2," of course, was originally intended to be the back half of a single "Kill Bill," and you can tell where Tarantino has stretched the material to fit the new running time. The padding shows -- some of the early scenes go on a beat too long -- but with the arrival of Elle Driver (Daryl Hannah), Bill's one-eyed troubleshooter, the film kicks into overdrive. The scene in which the two women finally settle their differences is a brilliantly sustained cadenza of creative mayhem -- it's ecstatic, resourceful, and edited with a sense of timing that leaves your jaw stuck to the floor. You could take the sequence out, offer it whole to the Academy, and it would win the best short film Oscar That sounds like one heck of a fight. The reviewer trashed Vol 1 as too decadent and illustrious, but gave this 4 outa 4 stah's. Maybe I'll rent it someday.... |
| Posted By: Rough Posted On: Apr 20, 2004 Views: 357 | RE: A Kill Bill Vol 2 snippet I'll probably go see it this week. I love Quentin, but admit that his earlier work is better. Some people thought "Jackie Brown" was a little slow and convoluted, but I think that one may be my favorite film of his. In the public arena, I doubt if he will ever top "Reservoir Dogs" and "Pulp Fiction". He may suffer the Orson Welles syndrome of peaking too early. Apparently, KB2 is not as bloody and has a lower body count as well as a love story and Quentin's commentary on motherhood (of all things)! It should be a winner, for the Uma/Darryl battle if nothing else! DIO/ROUGH 2004 |
| Posted By: alfonsothefan Posted On: Apr 20, 2004 Views: 347 | RE: A Kill Bill Vol 2 snippet OK you smucks, I watched the DVD of Kill Bill. Oh yeah...can you say 'Award Winner' NOT!! The body count, btw, not counting the cartoons, was 82. Trust me. In comparison, the Godfather b.c. was 23 for the original, 22 forGF II and 26 for GF III. Goodfellas was, as I recall, 18. One wonders: Does this qualify me for an associates of mortuary science? atf, the 1 (and counting) |
| Posted By: alfonsothefan Posted On: Apr 20, 2004 Views: 346 | RE: Oh, and Roughie... I agree that Jackie Brown was the best QT flick, bar none. Geesh the public that watches this stuff must be the same morons that go "booooring" at WWE Shows. JB was a great flick, had lots of swerves and ya -- I suppose one does need an IQ above the temperature outside to comprehend the damn thing. Belee dat. atf |
| Posted By: Rough Posted On: Apr 20, 2004 Views: 339 | Jackie Brown One reason I loved JB is because it had a serpentine plot that really kept you on your toes. And I would argue it had the BEST ensemble cast Quentin ever assembled...DeNiro, Pam Grier, Samuel L. Jackson, the delicious Bridgette Fonda, as well as Robert Forster and Micheal Keaton. I'm sure the average schmoe, who's into something like "Walking Tall" probably thought it was just too hard to follow! It was really Quentin's "straightest" drama as well, without nearly as much of the stylized, lightining fast editing and Quentinesque dialogue...you know, the sometimes monotonous pop culture references, like "Royale w/cheese", that are one of Tarantino's trademarks. Man, I know "Kill Bill 1" had a higher body count than that! Hell, Uma wiped out half of Tokyo toward the end. I actually loved that whole sequence because I was so totally into what Quentin was doing at that point, that I had long since left reality at the door. I think the general concensus is that this second part is better. Some have complained about the padding in both and, in the end, Tarantino may have been better off doing one film. |
| Posted By: Rough Posted On: Apr 20, 2004 Views: 338 | PS And YES...your body count stats are scary! :) So, the body count is actually the inverse of the overall picture quality, using the Godfather films as an example. "Godfather 3"..worst of the series and highest body count. Interesting! Poor Sofia Coppola...great director, we come to discover, but the poor girl just about singlehandedly ruined the third Godpappy! DIO/ROUGH 2004 |
| Posted By: legion Posted On: Apr 21, 2004 Views: 324 | RE: A Kill Bill Vol 2 snippet it's garbage, Fonzi is right. Tarantino's out of ideas, he needs a long vacation. Dogs was a masterpiece, Pulp was cool and very stylish, and then...nothing. Retarded vampire movie with Clooney? The auteur Directors don't rule Hollywood the way they once did, so all you get is this commercial krap and endless shiatty sequels to cash-in. It's nothing but Corporate Art. Black Velvet Elvis on the movie screen. The odd good movie slips through rarely - 'American Beauty', ect. The rest are McMovies. I'll give you my favorite bit from the 'Filthy Critic' : "Once upon a time, there was a Colossal Man. He was a lonely man because there was no Colossal Woman, and whenever he tried to make love to a regular-sized woman, he crushed her with his penis. One day, the Colossal Man decided to pamper himself to get over the blues. He treated himself to a lunch at a Furr's Cafeteria, where he ate all the croutons, hush puppies and most of the fried chicken. Then he went to the movies. The Colossal Man had a Colossal tummy ache from all that cafeteria food. At the theater, he took a Colossal dump. He called it Kill Bill." |
| Posted By: legion Posted On: Apr 21, 2004 Views: 323 | RE: forgot the link Filthy wasn't too impressed with 'Kill Bill' either, apparently: (this is the only movie critic the old Leege listens to and highly recommends) filthycritic |
| Posted By: Rough Posted On: Apr 21, 2004 Views: 317 | RE: A Kill Bill Vol 2 snippet Hey Leege, be sure to check out "Jackie Brown", if you haven't already. It really is cool and I think you'll like it (certainly more than "Dusk til Dawn)! |
| Posted By: Hutch Posted On: Apr 22, 2004 Views: 291 | RE: A Kill Bill Vol 2 snippet 82 dead, ATF? And you painstakingly counted each one..... Well, that's not bad, but for your graduate degree you have to rent "Commando" and see if Governor Arnold rang up a bigger body count than Uma did. ;-) |
| Posted By: alfonsothefan Posted On: Apr 22, 2004 Views: 286 | RE: Well it's about damn time... Hey, great talking at ya again the other day. As for the body count; why yes, I did TRY to count the Japanese and other folks that Uma & Co were killing. btw, last night I watched Jackie Brown again and....lets count THOSE bodies: Beaumont Livingston (Chris Rock), the surfer girl Fonda, DeNiro and finally Samuel L. Jackson. FOUR. No wonder the zipperheads didn't take too well to it?! Oh...your not questioning the veracity of the Queens own bean counter, are you, Hutch of Araby? hehe atf |
| Posted By: Rough Posted On: Apr 22, 2004 Views: 283 | Okay, I saw it.... Kill Bill 2, that is. And I liked it a lot. I liked it more than the first one because, I'll admit it, Uma really had me going with her love for the kid! Aaaawwwwwwwww! I've gotta say, by the end of this thing, I was really pulling for the little lady and hoping for a happy ending. Sheesh, she sure deserved it, after the crap she went through. So, I liked the deeper emotional investment in this second installment. As for femme fighting, I still enjoyed the fight between Uma and Vivica more than any other, within either film. The Uma/Daryl fight had a decent buildup that didn't quite deliver. Michael Madsen was cool as an evil motherf ucker, as always. And kudos to David Carradine...wow, I didn't know this guy could act! Sorry to say, I never saw him in "Kung Fu"! The whole film was a little disjointed and seemed sort of cobbled together in spots...and I still think that Quentin would have better off, from a filmic and artistic pov, making only one film. |