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Posted By: Howard

Posted On: Jul 3, 2005
Views: 1794
What do you think of this

The only website you busted on is ppsociety, but what about more respected websites like psipog.net.
they have videos of more than just the psiwheel, such a coin lifting up one side, a spinning watch and rolling pencils. what do you think of their claims?


Posted By: Placebo

Posted On: Jul 4, 2005
Views: 1792
RE: What do you think of this

I think it'll be fairly obvious what Keith's response will be, but hell, let's put it in black and white :P

They have one or two impressive videos, should they be for real :)
I've spoken at length with one of the makers of those videos, and I personally feel that he, at least, believes in what he's doing. And obviously he will insist that he didn't fake it.

It would be a tad silly to fake a partially levitating coin when you honestly believe you can.

But then some people are a bit silly :P

I'd love for them to be real. I wish those guys would just walk into a science lab and do it :/


Posted By: Random1

Posted On: Jul 4, 2005
Views: 1787
RE: What do you think of this

the fact that no one has walked into a lab and shown abilities like this (that we know of) easily puts me on the side of Keith and many others. But above that, what I find interesting is that when something like the topic of demonstrating telekinesis in a lab comes up, it seems like the TK-believers (the majority) seem to steer away from wanting to interact with established scientists, or they make claims that they can't always perform on the spot...

this is exactly why the "proof" is left to some internet videos..

But even those seem dull and the same. Why not have a video of a crowded New York street where you are demonstrating your Telekinesis?? why not try something besides moving a couple pencils around on a desk?? the simple fact that so many of the "telekinetic videos" show the same type of thing makes me think it is no different from any "fad" going around... A few people start something, which spreads, and evetually leads to many more people doing it. Another reason why I think so much of this is BULL****, is because I don't see many people going different ways with their claims. For example, why not exercise some telekinesis and have somebody measure changes in your body, and changes in the immediate area around you. If you can continue to develop and improve your "telekinetic powers", then you surely will have a change in your body as a result of it.


Posted By: Random1

Posted On: Jul 4, 2005
Views: 1786
RE: What do you think of this

I'm not the immediate "enemy" of Telekinesis, I just think that when you make claims, you have to come up with some concrete proof to back them up. Like Keith said before "its up to the TK'ers to prove they HAVE telekinesis"

I couldn't put it better myself.


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Jul 4, 2005
Views: 1781
RE: What do you think of this

Psipog.net? More respected?
I think the previous guys have summed up how I feel about any TK claims pretty well.
I have to say that I do find ppsociety especially annoying because of its particularly daft content. It is, in the main, school kids making very silly claims. How can we be expected to take it seriously? Not to mention Paranoid Jester who reckons to put a 'scientific' slant on it when in fact he hasn’t the slightest notion of what he is talking about! Give me a break!
As I keep saying, if TK were real, why has it never been demonstrated? I think the answer to that one is pretty obvious to anyone who actually stops and thinks about it.
I am, in all honesty, amazed that in this day and age of science, education, enlightenment and reason, we still have people who believe in such nonsense. Even people that believe that Bruce Lee had magical powers that enabled him to walk on upturned paper cups!
And I thought we stopped believing in magic and wizards years ago.
Seems I was wrong.
The amount of stupidity alive and well in the world today never ceases to amaze me.



Posted By: Howard

Posted On: Jul 4, 2005
Views: 1778
RE: What do you think of this

>As I keep saying, if TK were real, why has it >never been demonstrated? I think the answer to >that one is pretty obvious to anyone who >actually stops and thinks about it.

what about uri geller?


Posted By: Howard

Posted On: Jul 4, 2005
Views: 1775
RE: What do you think of this

geller passed tests for Stanford Research Institute and demonstrated his powers for many people.
also, just wondering, why do you hate telekinesis claims so much but dont mention any thing about the other claimed powers.


Posted By: Placebo

Posted On: Jul 5, 2005
Views: 1771
RE: What do you think of this

Actually, there IS a guy that performs telekinesis in front of the public on most days.
I think his name is Jack Becker - 'Freesailing Jack' in google should find him.
Apparently he levitates foil in front of people.

Now, I'm not saying I believe the guy is for real. I have my doubts. But you mentioned nobody doing it on the street :)


Posted By: Random1

Posted On: Jul 5, 2005
Views: 1768
RE: What do you think of this

*yawn*..

well ok, I suppose I cannot accurately say NO ONE.

:-)


we all know what I mean though...


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Jul 7, 2005
Views: 1746
RE: What do you think of this

Howard.
You said
>>geller passed tests for Stanford Research Institute and demonstrated his powers for many people.


Posted By: Howard

Posted On: Jul 8, 2005
Views: 1738
RE: What do you think of this

so?


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Jul 8, 2005
Views: 1736
RE: What do you think of this

Sorry, only half my post appeared.
To continue...
Show me anywhere where they say that Uri Gellar was tested by them and was found to demonstrate powers beyond that of established physics.
Go ahead, show me.


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Jul 11, 2005
Views: 1713
RE: What do you think of this

Thought not.


Posted By: nicktk1

Posted On: Jul 11, 2005
Views: 1709
RE: What do you think of this

YOU PEOPLE ARE STUPID....I HAVE PROOF THAT IT EXSISTS YOU WANT IT E-MAIL ME


Posted By: Bubbap

Posted On: Jul 11, 2005
Views: 1707
RE: What do you think of this

Email me for proof...Hummmm! Like to see how this works... Another stupid video I guess. I have one thing to say about this..."everyone here with TK raise my hand!"


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