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Posted By: ArcticWolf

Posted On: Sep 9, 2005
Views: 1379
Dont Know What To Think...

Right, After Reading This Site On Telekinesis, And The Whole Forum On The Subject (Congratulations On Getting Rid Of Peter, By The Way!). I Have To Say That This Is One Of The Best Sites I Have Ever Been To! :)

Though I Do Not Know What To Believe, I Think That Both Sides Have A Valid Arguement.

Keith Creates A Valid Arguement Saying That... Well...I Think The Phrase "Anybody With Telekinesis Please Raise My Right Hand" Pretty Much Sums It Up!

On The Other Hand, If I Had TK, Then I Would Not Show Demonstrations To The World In Fear Of Being Forced To Undergo Experiements And Being Known As A "Freak". I Mean, I Would Not Want To Give Up My School Life (Im 17), Just To Be Tested On!

Comments Please!

ArcticWolf


Posted By: FireStarter

Posted On: Sep 9, 2005
Views: 1374
RE: Dont Know What To Think...

That was an good way of putting it.


Posted By: Grant

Posted On: Sep 9, 2005
Views: 1372
RE: Dont Know What To Think...

ArcticWolf,

the way i look at it there is two sides to this subject. There is the people who go by facts which in this case are people who don't believe in TK, there is also the people that go by fantasy and the hope they have a special gift that believe in TK.

I personally don't believe in TK, there simply is no proof it exists. The people that claim it does exist (and this is not all of them) are just plain crazt i.e Peter Flack, a character that simply show's be that some TK believers are just in 'wonderland'.

I don't believe that by claiming you have TK power's that you are to become a 'Lab Rat'. There is such a thing as Human Right's and it won't be taken away because you claim to have TK. Instead people who say they have TK use it as an excuse because they don't really have TK.

It's quite simple, for TK to exist it has to be proven.




Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Sep 9, 2005
Views: 1363
RE: Dont Know What To Think...

If TK existed this forum wouldn't.


Posted By: Dark Crisis

Posted On: Sep 9, 2005
Views: 1358
RE: Dont Know What To Think...

Keith just proving that an straw and a psiwheel can move is nothing.You still have no hard cold proof.I mean wow!moving an straw by static is an very lame excuse.


Posted By: Grant

Posted On: Sep 10, 2005
Views: 1357
RE: Dont Know What To Think...

True,

but if TK was proven then what's to say that there wouldn't be people that claim it's all a hoax still. These type of people will always exist so there would always be some type of forum on this subject.


Posted By: Grant

Posted On: Sep 10, 2005
Views: 1356
RE: Dont Know What To Think...

My last post was for Keith.

Dark Crisis,

I think you will find that Keiths objective in the 'straw' and 'psi wheel' tests is to demonstrate how easy it is to prove people with TK wrong. There are some people who claim they have TK because they have moved a straw or psi wheel, how lame is that? When Keith can show it's all down to static


Posted By: Dark Crisis

Posted On: Sep 10, 2005
Views: 1354
RE: Dont Know What To Think...

Grant,



How many times do i have to tell you people! Just proving static can move an straw or an psiwheel doesn't mean it doesn't exist.If keith really wants to prove is doesn't exist then i'm pretty sure he would give an better explaination than the one he gots.Like explain more things that tker's do besides and straw or an psiwheel.


Posted By: Grant

Posted On: Sep 10, 2005
Views: 1349
RE: Dont Know What To Think...

Dark Crisis,

it's quite simple really. Lets have some hard evidence then, evidence that can be shown where static isn't involved. Lets be frank about it there isn't any. Lets see some proof of TKer's doing some other stuff they apparently do, something where we can exclude static or the use of blowing as an explanation. I wonder if it can be done!!!



Posted By: Dark Crisis

Posted On: Sep 10, 2005
Views: 1342
RE: Dont Know What To Think...

Keith is an joke. i suggest you find the answers yourself instead of believing in what someone else say. Psi;









Posted By: jj

Posted On: Sep 11, 2005
Views: 1330
RE: Dont Know What To Think...

So how would you explain some of the things that Nina Kulagina have done?


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Sep 12, 2005
Views: 1322
RE: Dont Know What To Think...

Nina Kulagina?
What's so special about her?
My mate Dave swears blind that Joe - who works in Burger King - can levitate a Whopper, complete with fries and a Pepsi, twenty feet into the air.
It must be true if Dave says so.
Nina Kulagina never did anything anywhere near as good as that.


Posted By: Placebo

Posted On: Sep 13, 2005
Views: 1320
RE: Dont Know What To Think...

She may not have levitated a big whopper, but she broke an egg (according to reports) :P

The trouble with Ninel is that the evidence for her sucks. The videos are interesting, but that's all.
She faded away from the limelight, and nobody seems to know all that much about her. The russians don't seem keen to enlighten us either :/

Of course I'd love to believe it's true, but we don't know enough in her case. She's not verifiable or easily falsifiable.

Somebody please just levitate a big whopper in the name of science? :D


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Sep 13, 2005
Views: 1317
RE: Dont Know What To Think...

And that Placebo is the problem, because as we both know from our opposite sides of the fence, it just isn't going to happen.


Posted By: Placebo

Posted On: Sep 14, 2005
Views: 1314
RE: Dont Know What To Think...

I'm not as certain as you are. But time is the only way to tell :/


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