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| Posted By: Gifted Posted On: Aug 17, 2006 Views: 1360 | Laughable arguments Keith, you're pathetic attempts at disproving TK are just that. The only thing that we know to be true is our lack of real knowledge. Don't use your air currents and static theories to attempt a disproval of the unknown when you yourself possess an apparently limited understanding of what known science, or what we think we "know," actually entails. I do believe that TK exists, but the only reason I'm giving you the time of day is to tell you how limited your intellegence really is. Your FAQ section: you deliberately made the questions seem as though the inquirer of said questions was inestimably incompetent. Is this to make yourself feel as if you know something? None of us do know anything, this fact rooting from the fact that we can't know anything is true until we know that everything is true. A test for you: Try getting a burnt out light bulb to levitate, illuminate, and fly around the room. This is real TK. Psi wheel? Rotating straw? FYI: TKers use the energy of thought to manipulate their environmental energies and such. Energy can easily pass through any medium, save for lead in some instances. Thoughts are electromagnetic energy, and emotions are thoughts or energy slowed down enough to be felt. Everything vibrates on a molecular level, thus creating energy. Much of this is excess energy that surrounds the matter as a light or aura, seen to those sensitive enough to see it, or perhaps feel the vibrations. You can control the energy in your body with your thoughts. Energy directing energy. You can also force that energy to leave your body: TK, astral projection, remote viewing. All of these entail the control of energy with the thoughts of a person. Imagine, if you are capable of such capacities, that someone may clear their thoughts through meditation, making each thought after that stronger by using more energy per thought. If you clear your mind and use that thought energy, you may project your will (energy or thoughts) from your body to manipulate the will of other matter. TKers manipulate energy, and so has technology. If manipulating energy is at all possible according to our species' severely flawed understanding of the laws of science in their purest form, then TK is possible. Aside from that, your opinion is hardly significant seeing as you aren't a high standing model in society and I doubt that you are even gifted enough the understand anything other that air currents and static. You know, the type of science typically learned from 2nd to 4th grade? Of course, since I realise that what you believe to be your sole onus for rejecting the existence of TK, I don't blame you for your incompetence. |
| Posted By: MERLIN THE TK'ER Posted On: Aug 18, 2006 Views: 1351 | RE: Laughable arguments I'm sure we could all sit here for the rest of our lives and use any number of scientific theories to try and explain things that seem impossible. Some of todays great minds could try and explain why some people can talk to animals or why the sun doesn't really exist or perhaps why the world will end in the year 2080. The arguments will sound beleivable and be nice and scientific just the way all of the geniuses like it. But does that make it fact? I mean after all, there really is no proof. You can't possibly tell me there are hundreds, perhaps thousands of people who can successfully move objects with their mind and no one has taken advantage of, or even noticed it. If this is what you're trying to establish as FACT, then I'm afraid you are the one with the laughable argument. |
| Posted By: no one you know Posted On: Aug 18, 2006 Views: 1346 | RE: Laughable arguments I agree with the original poster, there is no way to disprove that TK exists. To the person that just posted, scientists don't make things sound intelligent to see how many people are dumb enough to believe, if we did then my job would be WAY more fun than it is. The job of a scientist is to pose questions based on observations they have made, not to make something up, use a bunch of big words and see who believes it. Any hypothesis posed by credited scientists has scientific merit behind it. I'm a student of Geology (I know it has nothing to do with the physics behind TK) and I know that before I submit any work to a professor or a colleague, I need to provide the evidence that led me to believe the view I was taking on the topic at hand was accurate. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Aug 19, 2006 Views: 1344 | RE: RE: Laughable arguments Gifted, I have not made any 'pathetic attempts at disproving TK'. All I did was to carry out some research with the psi wheel and the straw. My tests showed that the psi wheel moved by heat and the straw by static. What this shows is that a great many people who think they have TK simply because they do these tests the same way as I do, do not in fact have TK. This does not prove that TK does not exist and I have never said it did. It is my personal belief that TK does not exists, if it does then why doesn't someone demonstrate it? Tkers talk a lot but that is all they do, not one has ever demonstrated it. Funny that. Most kids grow out of thinking its true fairly quickly, you can only delude yourself and others for so long before reality kicks in. |
| Posted By: Starman Posted On: Aug 19, 2006 Views: 1338 | RE: RE: Laughable arguments If telekinesis is moving things with your mind and not your hands then you proved TK yourself, even though you claim you never physically touched the wheel you admit it DID move by heat rising off your hands, well if TK IS true there must be something passed from your mind to the wheel, in this case it was just infrared energy. if it was a magic invisible beam then you would just say, that's not TK you are using your magic beam. I think you said that when you put a glass over the wheel it did not move - well maybe infrared can't travel through glass. Verdict TK 1 KM 0. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Aug 19, 2006 Views: 1335 | RE: Laughable arguments Oh dear, where do you people come from? Are you churned out of the same mould from the same distant factory that ran out of brains? Yes, it was heat that turned the psi wheel, plain ordinary old fashioned heat from my hands causing the air to rise and the resultant incoming air currents to move the psi wheel. No magic beams or infra red and certainly nothing to do with TK. If you think it was TK then you would have to accept that my six coffee mugs are damn good at TK! Go away. |
| Posted By: no one you know Posted On: Aug 19, 2006 Views: 1330 | RE: Laughable arguments I think its pretty safe to say that you are out numbered. It is you and maybe one other person on this entire board who take your side against so many others who don't. Maybe you just didn't realize what you were getting yourself into when you started this page. |
| Posted By: MERLIN THE TK'ER Posted On: Aug 19, 2006 Views: 1328 | RE: Laughable arguments Perhaps Keith and I are outnumbered by some wackjobs online, but you still fail to see our point. If you can do TK, prove it. You can keep typing til your fingers fall off and it wont change a thing. I'm sure at least one of you TK'ers isn't modest. Doesn't anyone want to be rich and famous? |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Aug 19, 2006 Views: 1323 | RE: Laughable arguments no one you know, Of course most people who come to this board will be against me, that stands to reason. Only people who are interested in TK come here. The reason I started this topic was because I got fed up with sites such as ppsociety and PsiPog spewing out such a pile of total garbage aimed at impressionable young kids. This is my way of addressing the balance. It must be working because I get many comments on both sites and receive many emails asking me to stop because I am preventing members from doing Tk because I put doubt into their minds. Great! I shall continue to spread the truth. Try using the other 90% of your brain that has been dormant since birth and you will come to realise that I am right. You will one day anyway. Don't see many over 40's pretending they can do Tk do you? People grow out of it. They eventually wise up. |
| Posted By: No one you know Posted On: Aug 20, 2006 Views: 1314 | RE: Laughable arguments lets just agree to disagree then, I know what I've seen, and you know what you haven't. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Aug 20, 2006 Views: 1312 | RE: Laughable arguments Oh we disagree allright. You are talking a load of total garbage along with all the other tkers. You know you can't really do it. I know you can't do it, and you know I know you can't do it. So who are you kidding? No one can do it, it doesn't exist. Grow up and stop pretending, it really doesn't make you appear to be clever at all, it makes you look stupid! |
| Posted By: BIll Cooper Posted On: Aug 20, 2006 Views: 1308 | RE: RE: Laughable arguments OK Tkers I drop a piano from 200ft directly above where you are standing you have three choices: 1) Using your power, deflect the Piano and walk away unscathed - defying all the laws of physics in which case both I AND Keith will buy you a beer! 2) Run like F**K and don't ever come back. 3) Hold true to your beliefs but be prepared to receive a crushing blow. Any takers? |
| Posted By: Gifted Posted On: Aug 21, 2006 Views: 1297 | RE: Laughable arguments Bill, You're scenario is nothing but a ridiculous exaggeration of what most TKers claim to be able to do. You know it. Don't be so ridiculous. Keith, Sorry I haven't been able to reply, I have limited access to a computer. TKers do try to access that 90% of the brain when performing TK. You're really just one of the people who fail to comprehend the existence of things that no one can understand. If you can't see it, it must not be real. Do you feel like you have a purpose in trying to disprove TK? To prevent the youth from getting fanciful ideas or notions that disagree with your own perception of what reality is? I do agree with you on the point. Anyone who thought that they were doing TK with the psi wheel or straw on a bottle without trying to debunk themselves is being ridiculous. Ppsociety is also a site for hopefuls and nothing more credible than such. However, nor is your website very credible, and the conflict between two unaccredited sites is simply amusing. I appreciate all those who have sided with TKers, but do your research first. |
| Posted By: Grant Posted On: Aug 21, 2006 Views: 1295 | RE: Laughable arguments Gifted' You said "You're really just one of the people who fail to comprehend the existence of things that no one can understand." How can you expect us to understand your beliefs if you are unable to even 'prove' it exists? I don't believe in TK and I looked into the subject open-minded and I have never ever come across a single piece of evidence that sujests TK is real. To me you are just one of them people who can't comprehend that TK does not exist. You also said "If you can't see it, it must not be real." Ever heard of the saying "seeing is believing"? You can't believe in something that can't be seen! I might as well believe pigs really can fly...I might as well if your statement has any credability!! You said "Do you feel like you have a purpose in trying to disprove TK? You can't disprove what isn't there. You can only disprove proof and proof you havn't got! |
| Posted By: Placebo Posted On: Aug 21, 2006 Views: 1293 | RE: Laughable arguments Oh, for pete's sake. If somebody mentions the 10% of their brain that they use, I'm gonna blow. Google it. Please. snopes.com especially. If you still believe it, then go ahead and remove that 90%, please. |
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