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| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Aug 21, 2006 Views: 622 | RE: Laughable arguments They obviously already have! |
| Posted By: Bill Cooper Posted On: Aug 22, 2006 Views: 618 | RE: Laughable arguments quote[You're scenario is nothing but a ridiculous exaggeration of what most TKers claim to be able to do. You know it. Don't be so ridiculous.]unquote Ok I admit. I should have said how many tkers would it take etc, then you and all your mates can stand under the piano. |
| Posted By: Gifted Posted On: Aug 22, 2006 Views: 616 | RE: Laughable arguments Bill, No one is standing under a piano. STILL a ridiculous exaggeration. Try something on an exponentially smaller scale. Grant, Seeing is believing, you say? Maybe you haven't been looking. He (Keith) is attempting to disprove it in the minds of young people so that they won't waste what little time they have trying to perform TK. To everyone against TK, Do you really believe that anyone claiming to have any psychic power is lying, or misinterpreting what is natural science? Obviously many are liars, but it is almost a statistical impossibility for all to be lying, or all to be too stupid to realize basic natural science is involved. Poltergeist activity? All lies? Ghosts, spirits, place memories? Rumors spread by liars and fools? Evidence of telepathy between identical twins? All false? What about De Ja Vu, precognitive dreams, prophets of the bible (precognitives) that predicted the wars of the world today? All folly, foolish errands pursued by foolish persons? To you, "seeing is believing" is your only absolute. Use your other senses, or your intuition. In other words, stop denying what you can't see and try to perceive it in different ways. There prehistoric cave paintings which depict a man or woman with an shining halo, or aura, which to TKers is believed to be the visible manifestation of someone's/somethings energies. The Cherokee Indians preached of all things having a "shining aura" or halo. Many artists, especially renaissance (the one word I'm unsure if I'm spelling correctly at ALL time) depicted important figures, and sometimes insignificant ones, with rings of shining light, or halos. It is believed that these artists, as all humans once had, possessed the ability to see this energy and give it form in their artwork. These auras are believed to be the kinetic energy produced on an atomic or molecular level by the intense and constant vibrations or said atoms or molecules. If these auras exist, why can't TK, which is often theorized to be the manipulation of this energy, or these molecular vibrations? Why do I try? You can't see it, so you will never believe, and with your doubt you set a limit for yourselves. The limit hinders your ability to EVER see it. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Aug 22, 2006 Views: 613 | RE: Laughable arguments Gifted, You said......"To everyone against TK, Do you really believe that anyone claiming to have any psychic power is lying, or misinterpreting what is natural science? Obviously many are liars, but it is almost a statistical impossibility for all to be lying, or all to be too stupid to realize basic natural science is involved." Statistical impossibility for all to be lying? On what studies do you base that wild assumption? I would have to agree though that you are probably right. Not all will be lying. Some will have deluded themseves sufficiently (you have to believe...)to think it is them moving the psi wheel and not air currents. It really is sad. It's such a shame that none of you can actually demonstrate these wonderful powers. But hey, never mind, we all believe you can do it anyway. Don't we? |
| Posted By: Bill Cooper Posted On: Aug 22, 2006 Views: 609 | RE: Laughable arguments Even superman has to use his hands - if anyone could he could but he can't. Mohammed gave up TK after just 3 days (he was a prophet) with the words "If the mountain won't come to Mohammed then Mohammed must go to the mountain" Yuri Gellar (Manfacturer of fine qualty ornate wrought-iron gates) - If he could do it he'd be deflecting Hisbollah missiles. Wake up Keith, you were talking in your sleep for a moment there! |
| Posted By: BIll Cooper Posted On: Aug 22, 2006 Views: 604 | RE: RE: Laughable arguments Quote [Bill, No one is standing under a piano. STILL a ridiculous exaggeration. Try something on an exponentially smaller scale.]end quote How about a feather? Leave the piano I'll rig up an explosive bolt triggered by nothing more than a feather falling through air in a box - you and all those guys under the piano can all concentrate on the feather and try to stop it from cutting an infrared beam that will activate the bolts via a couple of relays. If that's too much we can go to a much smaller mass and still trigger the piano. If somebody said to me "Sing or I'll blow your brains out" I'd learn to sing in about 5.26 milliseconds. If I said "deflect the feather or die" you tell me what would the result be - honestly - you have the power to prove me wrong (No that does NOT mean I believe you are Psychokinetic). Either you can or you can't. The TK argument seems to be 'maybe I can't but that does not mean nobody can' it may seem reasonable but it is irrational. If science operated on those principles scientists would have to prove no cat in the world could fly, after some guy said "I saw a flying cat, prove me wrong". When they (the scientists) couldn't prove it people would say, "you have not done enough tests so your conclusion is flawed" or "Pussey isn't well today come back tomorrow" or " he only does it on 09/09/09 come back in 1000 years" We have to put boundaries on things, we may move the boundaries in the light of experience but they simply cannot be infinitely wide. For anything to be true it HAS to be repeatable that is the standard we set that is the minimum. ever heard of your eyes playing tricks? seeing is beleiving? - they're the boundaries set by non-scientists. If I actually saw TK occur JUST ONCE I would NOT believe it unless I could see it again in the company of other rational, sober, drug-free scientists otherwise I was dreaming/hallucinating or not quite over those mushrooms I had last night. Just as we set a standard on proof of guilt we set a standard of proof on a claim - we never said you could do it - you did! - ergo prove it. Imagine If I said my cat could speak? would it be up to you to prove he couldn't? - of course not. It would be easier for me to prove he could (if it were true). So that is the way science tends, that is the benchmark. Are their Aliens? - 90% of the world believe there are and the other 10% are to young to understand the question - but NOBODY can to date prove there are, I can quite legitimately say "There are no aliens - prove me wrong" The only way you could do that would be to search every nook and cranny in the univserse all at the SAME time. By asking others to disprove TK you are asking us to do the impossible. |
| Posted By: your worst nightmare Posted On: Aug 29, 2006 Views: 565 | RE: Laughable arguments Bill, I can't believe I didn't see these posts of yours before, I would have had even more ammunition to prove my hypothesis: you are a retarded person. I think you are confusing Telekinesis with "the Force", turn off the sci-fi channel and open a book biatch! "Superman had to use his hands..." do remember those choice words? By that rationale, Master Yoda didn't need to use his hands, lmfao! You imbecile. |
| Posted By: wei Posted On: Oct 23, 2006 Views: 541 | RE: Laughable arguments bill made a good point on his last post. especially the alien one. |
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