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| Posted By: JP Posted On: Dec 29, 2006 Views: 1429 | Exploring Convection Currents I've been reading up on this TK stuff vigorously for the past couple of days because of something that peak my interest, which would be unimportant to post here. Regardless of why I got into studying up on TK and the psi-wheel, I found Keith's site here that shows videos on how to move the psi-wheel and spinning a straw with simple convection currents, heat, etc... I'd like to hear Keith's and anybody else's opinion on this video that proves that applying heat doesn't work in all cases, especially at the end of the video where the tester applies a thermometer to the glass covering the psi-wheel and it heats up the glass to 140 degrees (using a hair dryer to apply the heat). Although, it could just be the thermometer heating up to that temperature, but regardless there is still a good amount of heat going into the glass (much more than the small amount of heat that gets emitted from your hands), and it still doesn't move. Any ideas? Video is here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=KFcahzu4E5A Btw, this video is not mine...this was done by an individual that goes by the name of "A Smattman" on YouTube. Credits go to him for the video. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Dec 29, 2006 Views: 1425 | RE: Exploring Convection Currents The psi wheel responded to heat as I would have expected. 1) Using the hands. The hands were not in the correct position to form a 'chimney'. Look at my video again and see the difference and how a small change can make a big difference. 2) The match. That worked pretty well I thought. 3) Under a glass. Of course it doesn't work under a glass, there is no hot air rising out of the top so no cool air coming in at the bottom. Confirms my findings I thought. |
| Posted By: JP Posted On: Dec 30, 2006 Views: 1419 | RE: Exploring Convection Currents But, yet, in your covered psi-wheel video, you stated in that page how to make a covered psi-wheel rotate by just heating it up? Wouldn't this be the same thing as what the other guy showed in his video by heating up the glass cover by means of a hair dryer? Unless in your video (and the picture below the video) show that each of the coverings actually has a "opening" at the top of it (I can't really tell in the covered psi-wheel video, if it's fully covered), then that would make a big difference, and you haven't proven that "fully" covered psi-wheels, with no openings, are manipulated by just heat. Anyways, if that is so, then how can somebody spin their psi-wheel "FULLY" covered, without placing their hands on it (except in the beginning when originally covering it)? http://youtube.com/watch?v=NAJ1KU9bqNk&mode=related&search= All responses are appreciated! P.S. I didn't reply to the match and the hand positions because I already know how those can be easily faked or manipulated by convection currents. I'm just interested more so in covered psi-wheel discussions; not meaning to be rude, just stated why I didn't respond to those areas. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Dec 30, 2006 Views: 1415 | RE: Exploring Convection Currents There seems to be a mix up here. I do not show a psi wheel genuinely rotating under cover. I show one that I faked, but I very clearly say its fake. The one I show below that - supplied by someone else - has a large hole in the top, loosely covered with a paper cup, and I explain that as well and say how it isn't covered because of the hole. Are these what you are talking about? The only time I have seen a fully covered psi wheel moving is when the hands are placed very close, because then static can easily be used to move it and I have an excellent clip that was sent to me showing this with full instructions on how to do it. It works very well with a foil wheel but can also work with paper if the tker is well pre-charged with static before starting, but it does of course require that the hands be close to the cover as static has only a short range. The one in the youtube video is moving by static. Note how the hands are not cupped around the psi wheel as they are when using an uncovered psi wheel, because that creates convection currents, and that will not work of course when covered. Instead the hands are held flat so that the static passes from the finger tips which are nearest the wheel and attracts/repels the psi wheel. The cover will not prevent static getting through, I have done it just as the video has. Its static. If it was TK why do the hands need be there at all? Please note there has never been a genuine case of anyone ever moving anything using TK. If it happened it would be a fact instead of just a kids myth like Santa and the tooth fairy. |
| Posted By: stevo Posted On: Jan 2, 2007 Views: 1399 | RE: RE: Exploring Convection Currents static is indeed a good source of moving air for psi-wheels. any research into electrohydrodynamics will show that a very simple device known sometimes as a "corona wheel" (because it derives its motion from an ion avalanche initiated by corona discharge) looks nearly identical to the psi wheel but is completely explained by classical physics. however, the issue of a covered psi-wheel brings me back to my point.....if a psi wheel were to be covered, in an evacuated chamber and(repeatedly) rotated from a distance, what would you consider this to be, assuming the nonexistence of telekinesis? |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Jan 3, 2007 Views: 1397 | RE: Exploring Convection Currents When I see it happen I will start to think about it, until then I will save my energy. |
| Posted By: JP Posted On: Jan 6, 2007 Views: 1389 | RE: Exploring Convection Currents Yes, those were what I was talking about. Sorry for getting back to this post over a week late, been busy with my military retirement. I understand how static could be used to move an "uncovered" psi-wheel, but static can't be the culprit in a fully covered psi-wheel, could it? Especially if what is used is glass, because glass is not the best conductor for electricity, so minor static electricity shouldn't be able to be passed through glass. I see one of the only ways for electricity to be passed through or into glass is a high powered electrical current (or higher than static electricity), or the conversion of solar power into glass by the means of "Power Glass" (a new type of glass that is manufactured with micro-solar cells), but it's still not pure glass, like a glass bowl for cooking or a glass cup. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Jan 7, 2007 Views: 1384 | RE: Exploring Convection Currents JP, I am afraid you are wrong when you say static will not pass through glass. Why not try it for yourself using a foil wheel? If you do you will see I am right. I have a wonderful vid emailed to me showing a foil wheel under glass following a finger around like a dog. So it does work. |
| Posted By: JP Posted On: Jan 7, 2007 Views: 1382 | RE: Exploring Convection Currents Interesting, I'll be sure and try that out. Works the same with paper? |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Jan 7, 2007 Views: 1380 | RE: Exploring Convection Currents I don't know, worth a try though |
| Posted By: JP Posted On: Jan 7, 2007 Views: 1379 | RE: Exploring Convection Currents Yeah I tried the foil and I wasn't able to get it to move covered or uncovered....hrm...maybe not enough static? |
| Posted By: JP Posted On: Jan 7, 2007 Views: 1377 | RE: Exploring Convection Currents Where are you getting your information that electricity can pass through glass? Glass is an insulator that will prevent the flow or transfer of electricity, and static electricity is just electricity that is "at rest", am I correct? Even attaching a grounding cable would not allow the transfer of electricity through glass. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Jan 8, 2007 Views: 1369 | RE: Exploring Convection Currents What you say does appear to make sense. However, I have a video clip that was emailed to me showing a psi wheel under glass moving by what is said to be, and does look like, static. It only worked when the guy walked about on his carpet with rubber soled slippers and then very quickly wore off. When he tried it bare foot it wouldn't work. If you email me I can forward it on to you to see what you make of it. Just click an email link to me on any page of my site. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Jan 8, 2007 Views: 1367 | RE: Exploring Convection Currents I have tried but cannot move the psi wheel under a glass with static, but can when its plastic. Perhaps the one in the vid is plastic, even though it was stated to be glass? I just used a plastic comb through my hair as its the easy way to get a static charge. |
| Posted By: JP Posted On: Jan 8, 2007 Views: 1364 | RE: Exploring Convection Currents Yeah, sure I'd love to see the video. I'll email you right away. |
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