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Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: May 6, 2005
Views: 684
RE: Video Request...

It's time you started to face up to reality.
You have been watching far too many Hollywood films, it's not real you know.
Nobody really has super powers.
Get used to it.


Posted By: Nick

Posted On: May 8, 2005
Views: 672
RE: Video Request...

>It's time you started to face up to reality.
>You have been watching far too many Hollywood
>films, it's not real you know.
>Nobody really has super powers.
>Get used to it.

Nah, I agree with you. Nobody has super powers, but who is defining TK as a superpower?

>You mean just like your video failed to meet
>your own requirements.
>Or have I missed something?

Nope, you haven't missed anything. As a matter of fact, you have repeated exactly what I said in my first post. It's nothing new, so thank you Keith for stating the obvious. Haha...

But seriously, let's see your version of it... Would love to, really.


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: May 8, 2005
Views: 670
RE: Video Request...

I stated the obvious because it is so incredibly stupid of you to say it.
You want me to make a video under conditions that you yourself have not met.
What would be the point in me faking yet another video anyway?
I've already demonstrated how easy it is.

Your disclaimer is meaningless. All you are saying is that we have to trust you, even though it's not shown on the video.
In that case you have to trust me as well, I can do it too!

QUOTE "I *know* my video doesn't show my face or me actually constructing the mechanism. My whole point above is to illustrate to the hard-headed that it would be impossible to fake my video, given those rules. Knowing this, and the fact that I actually ahered to there rules, although not shown, reassures me that this video is indeed genuine."

Ho ho ho !
Yeah right!



Posted By: Nick

Posted On: May 9, 2005
Views: 665
RE: Video Request...

>Your disclaimer is meaningless. All you are
>saying is that we have to trust you, even
>though it's not shown on the video.
>In that case you have to trust me as well, I
>can do it too!

Nah, that wasn't what I was saying at all, you king of conversational manipulation, you! Ho ho...

All I was saying is that if you can't recreate my video under the conditions I set forth, then I actually did TK, since I didn't imploy any form of trickery or buggery of any sort. Since you would have to use trickery to recreate it, then I have shown that I have TK.

Now, before you go off on a rant, let me say that the only person that I would've proved to have TK would be me, since I know for sure that I didn't use trickery. Do you hear that? As I have said, it would only be proof to me, since I am the only person who is absolutely sure to have not tricked anything.

Of course, even if I made a video adhering to all of my rules, it would still not satisfy, since you said that if would be possible to fake.

>Ho ho ho !
>Yeah right!

Ok, go on and tell us why you are laughing at my quote in your post.


Posted By: Bubbap

Posted On: May 9, 2005
Views: 660
RE: Video Request...

Nick, please stop. Seriously, do you actually believe that your video holds any merit at all? If you do, than I believe Keith has been wasting his time turning you into a mental pretzel as you clearly do not understand even the basics of scientific argument.
Keith my friend, you are wasting your time responding to Nick’s posts. Either he is mentally handicapped or just plain stupid.


Posted By: Nick

Posted On: May 9, 2005
Views: 653
RE: Video Request...

>Nick, please stop. Seriously, do you actually
>believe that your video holds any merit at all?

Nope. Not to anybody but me.

>If you do, than I believe Keith has been
>wasting his time turning you into a mental >pretzel as you clearly do not understand even >the basics of scientific argument.

Then logically, by my answer to your first statement above, he hasn't been wasting my time? Lol, have fun with that ;)

>Keith my friend, you are wasting your time
>responding to Nick’s posts. Either he is
>mentally handicapped or just plain stupid.

Nah, if you can't see the plain logic, then it isn't my problem, but rather a problem with your mental faculties.


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: May 9, 2005
Views: 647
RE: Video Request...

Bubbap,
You are correct of course. Nick does not have the ability to either understand an argument or present one.
Hardly surprising really, he thinks he can do TK.
Poor little sod.


Posted By: Nick

Posted On: May 9, 2005
Views: 642
RE: Video Request...

Keith, you are too hilarious. My argument hasn't been shown to be unsupported or false. Get real. Look at what you said:

>I could easily duplicate your
>video, no problem at all.
>It is so simple to do I can't
>even be bothered to go to the
>trouble.

>You honestly expect anyone to
>be convinced by your silly
>little video clip?
>...
>You mean just like your video
>failed to meet your own
>requirements.
>Or have I missed something?

Like I said, you didn't miss anything, because this is what I said:

>I *know* my video doesn't
>show my face or me actually
>constructing the mechanism.

I said that in my first post. Omg, duh, thanks for stating the obvious!

My whole point was this, which was also in my first post:

>The flipside to this is, if
>you can make the video above,
>it would totally and without
>a doubt show that small teeny
>wind current can move a straw
>and thereby mimick true TK.

This is the statement, my whole argument in fact, that you haven't responded too. You shift the topic away from my arguement, then blame me for not having an argument? That's pretty funny, actually.


Posted By: Bubbap

Posted On: May 10, 2005
Views: 631
RE: Video Request...

Once again Nick you are clearly shirking around the requirement for even a basic level of credibility. What is your point of argument here if it is only you who believes your video holds merit? If you do not have a point of argument, then your only purpose is to act as an antagonist as opposed to someone who actually seeks for the truth. You are obviously out of your league, but I must admit it is fun watching Keith discredit and overwhelm you on every response. However, I also must admit I can’t help feeling a little sorry for you as well.
Keith, try not to make him feel too small, that is of course if he is capable of understanding how ridiculous his posts actually are!!!


Posted By: Placebo

Posted On: May 10, 2005
Views: 629
RE: Video Request...

You lot really do have a strange way of patronising others.
I see a lot of it on Randi's forums too :P


Posted By: Nick

Posted On: May 10, 2005
Views: 625
RE: Video Request...

>What is your point of argument here if it is
>only you who believes your video holds merit?

I believe I already said what my point was:

>The flipside to this is, if
>you can make the video above,
>it would totally and without
>a doubt show that small teeny
>wind current can move a straw
>and thereby mimick true TK.

The above is what I said in my first post, and it was my point. Of course, diverting the conversation to a topic more suitable to you and then saying that I have no argument is a way in which you try to make me look like a fool. Of course, who is the fool really, if I have my argument right there, for everyone to see?

>If you do not have a point of argument, then
>your only purpose is to act as an antagonist as
>opposed to someone who actually seeks for the
>truth. You are obviously out of your league,
>but I must admit it is fun watching Keith
>discredit and overwhelm you on every response.

Well, considering what I said above about actually having a point, then the above wouldn't be true, now would it? ;-)


Posted By: Bubbap

Posted On: May 10, 2005
Views: 624
RE: Video Request...

Your right Placebo. I should really try being nicer


Posted By: Placebo

Posted On: May 10, 2005
Views: 614
RE: Video Request...

[Your right Placebo. I should really try being nicer]
Well that's a personal choice I guess
I just find it amusing the style that is used :)

I vaguely recall Keith saying that it's the only way to get through to some of the people on his forum. (or similar words to that effect)

Personally, I tend to stay 'nice' as far as possible, however there can be reasons to be nasty at times.


Posted By: Nick

Posted On: May 10, 2005
Views: 607
RE: Video Request...

>Your right Placebo. I should really try being
>nicer

Yes, you could be a little nicer. You could also stop saying I don't have an argument when you keep telling me what my argument is. Why not try listening to my actual argument instead of trying to fabricate one for me?


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: May 10, 2005
Views: 587
RE: Video Request...

Nick,
You are not helping your case one bit, nor the argument in support of TK.
I can't be bothered with you anymore, you are way too repetative and illogical.
Go to a TK site instead.
Goodbye.


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