| RETURN TO TELEKINESIS PAGE - TELEKINESIS -> In response to Bubbap | Start A New Topic | Reply |
| Post Info | TOPIC: In response to Bubbap |
| Posted By: Nick Posted On: May 18, 2005 Views: 576 | RE: In response to Bubbap Thank you Bluetears, you've hit it right on the money, even if other people tend to miss. |
| Posted By: Bubbap Posted On: May 18, 2005 Views: 573 | RE: In response to Bubbap I think Keith makes a reasonable request here. Create a video within the parameters you have put forth, demonstrate your TK abilities and then someone with a video camera can fake it. Think of it this way, if we have movies these days showing giant waves crashing in to the Statue of Liberty or Godzilla walking through downtown, do you honestly think it would be that difficult to fake a TK video using the parameters you set? I think not. Demonstrating TK in a controlled environment with credible observers is really the only way to substantiate your claims. |
| Posted By: Bluetears Posted On: May 18, 2005 Views: 562 | RE: In response to Bubbap Thats true, but if you record it with a home camcorder, there will be little numbers at the bottom of the screen that will run in consecutive order. If the movie has been edited at all, then the numbers would skip. This is an easy way to determine if the video has been tampared with. |
| Posted By: Nick Posted On: May 18, 2005 Views: 561 | RE: In response to Bubbap >I think Keith makes a reasonable request here. >Create a video within the parameters you have >put forth, demonstrate your TK abilities and >then someone with a video camera can fake it. And what would this prove? Are you saying this would prove that what I did wasn't TK? |
| Posted By: Bubbap Posted On: May 18, 2005 Views: 559 | RE: In response to Bubbap BT. I know what you are referring to but, the numbers can be altered as well. A little digital manipulation and anything can be done with these numbers, or anything we see on the screen for that matter. I do not have access to a camcorder, but I know people who do and I have seen that by simply loading the file to a computer anything can be altered on it. It is just by its nature an unreliable medium to try to prove TK or anything else really. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: May 18, 2005 Views: 551 | RE: In response to Bubbap Oh, I see! This discussion is NOT about whether or not TK is real, or even If Nick has TK or not, it is about what can or can't be faked with a digital camcorder and a computer. I fail to see what any of this has to do with TK. Anyway, as you ask, any idiot could tell you the answer to that. You can produce ANYTHING with a digital camcorder and a computer. Just take a look at my psi wheel under a glass cover, beginning stationery then gradually starting to rotate, that is an excellent example of digital fakery. What else do you wish to have explained to you that you have such difficulty in comprehending? Just ask. Happy to help the mentally challenged. |
| Posted By: Nick Posted On: May 18, 2005 Views: 544 | RE: In response to Bubbap >Oh, I see! >This discussion is NOT about whether or not TK >is real, or even If Nick has TK or not, it is >about what can or can't be faked with a digital >camcorder and a computer. OMG, you finally actually made a decent logical conclusion! >I fail to see what any of this has to do with >TK. But, if we are talking about whether a certain TK stunt could be faked, then it actually does have to do with TK. I mean, really... |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: May 18, 2005 Views: 540 | RE: In response to Bubbap Please explain why you think that faking a TK video has any bearing on whether or not TK exists. Please do explain this, because so far you haven't given any reason at all! What has the power of a digital video computer program and the skills of the computer operator got to do with TK? What is the connection.... in your mind? Are you really daft enough to think that if I couldn't fake the video as per your conditions, that would somehow prove that TK exists, even though no such TK video exists? Surely not, even you can't be that daft? Explain away, because at this point you are looking really dumb. So your answer is............? |
| Posted By: Bluetears Posted On: May 19, 2005 Views: 536 | RE: In response to Bubbap OMFG! Ok, Kieth you really need to think about what you are saying before you say it. Yes the point has been made that no matter what you can fake a TK video. Yet that has so much to do with TK's existance its not even funny! Because if you couldn't fake a TK video with the given stipulations, such a video would be a sort of undisputible proof that TK is real. IT MATTERS IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THINGS LOGICALLY! |
| Posted By: Bubbap Posted On: May 19, 2005 Views: 532 | RE: In response to Bubbap "Yes the point has been made that no matter what you can fake a TK video." This is really a fact, anything can be faked on video! "Because if you couldn't fake a TK video with the given stipulations, such a video would be a sort of undisputible proof that TK is real." This is a direct contradiction to your point above. You CAN fake a TK video with the given stipulations. You can fake a TK video under any situation, regardless of the stipulations you may put forth. So, using a video camera can not under any circumstances be used as a form of proof. I thought this would be obvious! |
| Posted By: Nick Posted On: May 19, 2005 Views: 530 | RE: In response to Bubbap >Are you really daft enough to think that if I >couldn't fake the video as per your conditions, >that would somehow prove that TK exists, even >though no such TK video exists? >Surely not, even you can't be that daft? I most assuredly am not that daft. See, you misinterpret what I say, yet again. You said that you faking a TK video has nothing to do with TK. And then I said it actually does, because even the fact that the word "TK" exists in the previous sentence elludes to this conlcusion. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: May 19, 2005 Views: 527 | RE: In response to Bubbap Bluetears. Just how stupid are you? How could not being able to fake a TK video be any sort of proof that TK exists when no such 'genuine' TK video exists in the first place??????????????????? You really are talking total nonsense. Your problem is that you are too stupid to realise that fact. Nick, You are just so pathetic. I will not respond to either of you because you are both way to stupid to bother with. |
| Posted By: Bluetears Posted On: May 19, 2005 Views: 525 | RE: In response to Bubbap Oh god, shoot me in the head. Ok I did not contradict myself. Yes i know you can fake a TK video, BUT if you couldn't that would be proof. ALso Keith I never said that a TK video like that existed,I just meant that if it were possible , which i know its not, it would be proof. |
| Posted By: Placebo Posted On: May 19, 2005 Views: 523 | RE: In response to Bubbap I'm with Keith on this one, sadly. Without the insults that is. > Oh god, shoot me in the head. Ok I did not contradict myself. Yep, you did (and do) :) > Yes i know you can fake a TK video, BUT if you couldn't that would be proof. [..] > Yes the point has been made that no matter what you can fake a TK video. As you said 'no matter what'. So 'if you couldn't' doesn't even feature, and it makes no sense. Now, let's say that Keith can't personally make the video, but Nick does. Does that mean that the 'no matter what' bit above is wrong? No, it could for example simply mean that Nick has a digital editting buddy, and Keith doesn't. There's simply no point to all this. If he duplicates it, you lose. If he doesn't, it doesn't mean you win. So what exactly do you intend to achieve in this? |
| Posted By: mikejm Posted On: May 19, 2005 Views: 520 | RE: In response to Bubbap Hi, I am new to this forum and I can't understand what that guy bluetears is going on about, How can a video of someone not being able to fake something be proof that it exists, when >THE GENUINE DOESN'T EXIST IN THE FIRST PLACE< That is point you seem to be missing. I am not saying whether I believe in TK or not but that statement does not make common sense! If however that guy Nick can produce a video which, let's say for arguments sake, can in no possible way be faked then that is the only way proof of TK over the internet would be possible. |
| Pages [ 1 2 3 ] Next Page -> |