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Posted By: MERLIN THE TK'ER

Posted On: Aug 23, 2006
Views: 701
RE: You are all funny

So you can do TK, but only when sane people aren't watching? Got ya. And by the way, if you don't want to be criticized then why in the hell would you post it on the internet?!


Posted By: Woodpecker

Posted On: Aug 23, 2006
Views: 697
RE: You are all funny

In my experience all telekinetics claim to have difficulty reproducing the effect under stress, i.e. when sceptics are watching and they are nervous as a result. This however does not mean that telekinesis does not exist. I cannot play the violin, or do much else for that matter, if I've just had an argument. I think it is unreasonable to rubbish their claim on this one point, especially when there are far more scientific reasons to think that telekinesis does not exist.

Now Keith, I have a question for you. You claim that you have never said that TK cannot exist. Yet looking around your threads I have several times seen:

"It hasn't been proved. It does not exist."

Maybe I'm getting mixed up, but to me you are saying it does not exist because it hasn't been proved. Which means that unless it is proved it cannot exist, right? Ergo, you are saying TK cannot exist.

Could you clear this up for me please? Perhaps my logic is flawed, but that's why I am asking for clarification. Thanks :)


Posted By: Bill Cooper

Posted On: Aug 24, 2006
Views: 686
RE: You are all funny

Every part of the human system evolved for some reason. Every usuable part we have appears in modified forms in other creatures. To anyone claiming TK is real there is NO unused part of the human anatomy to do it. If you are capable of doing it only on your own in private, that's fine by me, I'll just file it under that category. IF our minds are capable of making us 'see' complex structures which do not exist, both when we are concsious and unconcsious - yo should accept this as a possible explanation for what you see.


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Aug 24, 2006
Views: 682
RE: You are all funny

Woodpecker,
You said....."Now Keith, I have a question for you. You claim that you have never said that TK cannot exist. Yet looking around your threads I have several times seen....."

It is TRUE that I have NEVER said that TK CANNOT exist, but I have many times said I am certain it doesn't, but that is two different statements.
I have also said my tests with the psi wheel and straw, whilst demonstrating that no TK is necessary, cannot be used as proof TK does not exist.

I also say the burden of proof rests on those making the claim.

I hope that makes it clearer for you.





Posted By: Woodpecker

Posted On: Aug 24, 2006
Views: 679
RE: You are all funny

Thanks. :)


Posted By: Bill Cooper

Posted On: Aug 25, 2006
Views: 673
RE: RE: You are all funny

How many dimensions does a thought have?
If it has 4 dimensions (and therefore) mass I'm sure your brain would be ably to chuck it out and physically move something.

As far as I can tell 'Thoughts' do not exist in any of the 4 dimensions we are used too. You cannot measure it's length, width, or depth,
OK To save argument I'll let you have 'time'.
(but even that can easily be shown as absurd).

I'll go beyond Keith, TK IS impossible, it has NEVER been possible, it willl NEVER be possible in our universe. Where any phenomena exists which appears to be tk, there will ALWAYS be a rational, proveable scientific repeatable explanation.






Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Aug 25, 2006
Views: 669
RE: You are all funny

Bill,
I couldn't agree more.
Have you looked at TK sites such a ppsociety & PsiPog?
If ever you want proof that TK is nothing more than childish Bull sh it then read the forums! They are hillarious. Typicall posts:

" I created a psi ball today and moved my desk a foot to the left"
"I turned my computer on and it wasn't even pluged in"
"I got angry and the light bulb exploded"
"I levitated a marker pen above my desk"

It goes on endlessly. The odd thing is that individually they each know they can't do it (but some may be actually fooled by the psi whel and straw) but because they read of so many others 'doing it' they think it must be real.

Why don't they question the rather obvious fact that no one has ever demonstrated it?
Is it because they WANT to believe it so much that they are prepared to abandon common sense?

However, the vast majority of them are just kids and I think it's just a stage they go through.

What do you think?


Posted By: your worst nightmare

Posted On: Aug 25, 2006
Views: 665
RE: RE: You are all funny

Bill you are officially dumbass number one, stop trying to sound smart! No wait, keep it up, it's really funny!!!
here's a few examples-
your use of the word 'whilst'
09/09/09 = 1000 years, need I say more
"Standard on proof of guilt"
"Proof of claim" What are you talking about, did you mean to say "Burden of proof?"
Your comments about aliens? HA!!! where do you get your statistics, on a Cheerio's box?
Why do you insist on making conclusions on things that have never been proven or disproven? Oh wait, I know- it's because you are retarded.
"With PROFUSE apologies..." nice context pal.
Human anatomy- there are three examples to show you how retarded you are- tailbones- most scientist's explanations say that the only reason it is still around is for us to sit on or something at the bottom that makes everything come together. That sounds like a ****ty excuse.
Wisdom teeth, maybe before we evolved we had bigger jaws so we needed these molars, our jaws have evolved along with everything else so why is it still there?
And the finest example is probably our appendix. yes it does produce a small amount of white blood cell but obviously (hence appendicitis) we can live without it.
And I didn't know you were an expert on dimensions of thought, you sound like G.W. Bush.
How can you possibly say things like this- in your words:

"I'll go beyond Keith, TK IS impossible, it has NEVER been possible, it willl NEVER be possible in our universe. Where any phenomena exists which appears to be tk, there will ALWAYS be a rational, proveable scientific repeatable explanation."

This statement alone proves just how intellectually deprived you are. How can you say this knowing that there is no proof to support either it's existence or lack thereof, you keep making yourself sound even more stupid. Besides there are a multitude of things in this universe and our world that remain unexplained by science. The basic fact that there is such a thing called a "theory" which here is one definition for the word

"An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture."

Theories are not facts which means that they cannot be proven by scientific explanation.
This "proves" how ridiculous you are, Bill.

You and Keith need to find a deserted island somewhere and inhabit the damn thing. You are both dumbasses who base conclusions on the fact that something has not been proven to exist, the fact that this website exists is a testament to the stupidity of both of you.
DUMBASSES!


Posted By: Deserted

Posted On: Aug 25, 2006
Views: 658
RE: You are all funny

I'm gonna close this topic.
Question: Prove it. (with video footage)
Though, there are rules: 1. do not send any video's of psipog, 2. do not say that you dont need to prove blablabla... that's getting boring.


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Aug 26, 2006
Views: 655
RE: You are all funny

your worst nightmare
There you go again.
You fill every post with insults.
You keep calling people retards, simply because they do not agree with you.
If you wish to have a debate learn how to do it.
You do your cause so much harm tkers would be far better of without you.
You are doing more to destroy the credibility of TKers than Bill or I ever could.
Keep up the good work.


Posted By: Bill Cooper

Posted On: Aug 26, 2006
Views: 651
RE: You are all funny

"I'll go beyond Keith, TK IS impossible, it has NEVER been possible, it willl NEVER be possible in our universe. Where any phenomena exists which appears to be tk, there will ALWAYS be a rational, proveable scientific repeatable explanation."

Just for you I'll translate the above:

"Nothing is impossible so long as it can be explained by science"



Posted By: Bill Cooper

Posted On: Aug 26, 2006
Views: 648
RE: RE: You are all funny

Keith,

Just for you, I typed Telekinesis into Google, then went to the first url.

http://www.crystalinks.com/telekinesis.html

Saw the picture, no need to read the words.

onto the next;

http://home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/Wingmakers/Telekinesis.html

"The ability of telekinesis is very natural occurrence and we all have the ability to perform telekinesis it's just a matter of learning the ability."

Keith, Honestly mate, I REALLY REALLY tried to understand this, I then asked my wife - her response "That's just crap" I asked my son,
he said "Mum's right". - I will file it with the Taiwanese instructions for the transistor radio that was designed by the japs and built in india.

I must just add here that my good lady wife has a ring of stones laid out on a table which she tells me are in the correct order for harmony). I do not disagree with her, and harmony reigns.


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Aug 26, 2006
Views: 645
RE: You are all funny

Bill,
The second site you list had me mystified, it is seldom you meet such a pile of unmitigated garbage presented as though it made sense.
However, my perseverance paid off, a few lines down the page I found this gem...

"Sometimes there is a vast difference in what we THINK we see vs what IS actually happening."

Now ain't that the truth!
Tkers take note.


Posted By: Bill Cooper

Posted On: Aug 26, 2006
Views: 637
RE: You are all funny

I personally blame Mrs Thatcher, she let all these people out, and closed down all the mental hospitals - Tony Blair has convinced them he can walk on water, I suppose from this TK was just a matter of time.


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Aug 27, 2006
Views: 633
RE: You are all funny

True enough.
And as for the Americans, any country that can elect such as moron as Bush must have a large percentage of the population that are likewise mentally challenged.
That would explain a lot of things.


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