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Posted By: xeoncat

Posted On: Dec 20, 2007
Views: 704
RE: About Professor Radin's Video

good report. who wrote it?

quote:
"While it is true that parapsychology has not figured out all the answers, it does not differ from normal science in this regard. It is the norm of scientific progress to make observations first, and then to attempt to explain them."

good to see I'm not the only one who though about this.

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keith, if you want data, ask a parapsychologist to show you experiments personally, then try yourself the experiments. then read parapsychology journals and then reproduce the experiments. get help from 22000 people and analyse results.

that's the data.

I guess that would make you a scientist on the fringe of knowledge... something which you are not and will never be.


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Dec 20, 2007
Views: 703
RE: About Professor Radin's Video

cj, you just never stop to think do you?

I ask you where you got all this amazing data so I could read it for myself.
Your response is to tell me to Google it.
Of course I can bloody Google it you frigging idiot!
However, if I do that I would have no way of knowing if I was reading the same data that you claim to have read, so it would make the whole exercise pointless.

So, for the last time, WHERE DID YOU READ THIS AMAZING DATA?

Failure to supply the evidence will of course reveal the truth, you have never seen it but can't admit it.

You are soooo dumb!


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Dec 20, 2007
Views: 702
RE: About Professor Radin's Video

xeoncat,
"While it is true that parapsychology has not figured out all the answers, it does not differ from normal science in this regard. It is the norm of scientific progress to make observations first, and then to attempt to explain them."

This is so true, we can both agree on that.
However, and this a BIG however, with "normal" science results can be consistently reproduced and repeated by others and easily verified as being as described. These results can then be carefully examined and a hypothesis proposed. This hypothesis will be used to make predictions of future results which can be borne out by further tests.
When it comes to the paranormal none of the above apply, results fluctuate wildly, cannot be reproduced with the same results, and cannot therefore be used to make a working hypothesis which can be tested.
It is because of these huge differences that we have to differentiate between factual empirical science, and the paranormal.

The paranormal has no evidence, it's that simple.
Please do waste your time arguing over evidence, for if there were any it would not be paranormal but normal. We would all accept it.

I don't understand why people like you have such a problem with something so bleeding obvious.



Posted By: cj

Posted On: Dec 20, 2007
Views: 696
RE: About Professor Radin's Video

WE CAN DO THAT WE HAVE DONE THIS MANY TIMES WITH OTHER CREDIBLE PEOPLE REPEATING SAME PROCEDURE AND GUESS WHAT GETTING SAME RESULTS OR UNDOUBTIBLY SIMILAR AND THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY OPINION PSYCHIC PHENOMENON OCCURS MANY AGREE AND I WOULD ATTEMPT TO DESCRIBE SIMPLE PICTURES YOU DRAW BUT ONLY BY EMAIL AND YOU HAVE TO BE OPEN YOU SHOULD WANT TO SEE IF I CAN DO IT NOT TRY TO THROW ME OFF AND DENY RESULTS IF THERE TO VAGUE I WILL SAY SO JUST LIKE LAST TIME FLOWER(FLOWERPOT)GUY FISHING(WATER) YOU SEE I AGREE THAT IS TO VAGUE AND WOULD NOT BE A DIRECT HIT IN MY OPINION YOU HAVE SEEN NOTHING SO IF I DO INDEED DUPLICATE EVEN 1 OF YOUR DRAWING YOU ADMIT POSSIBLE EFFECT CERTIANLY NOT DEFINITIVE CJ419666@YAHOO,COM


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Dec 21, 2007
Views: 690
RE: About Professor Radin's Video

cj,
It is perfectly clear to us all that you have never seen any data or other evidence to support remote viewing, all you have done is read what others have said and take their word for it. That is how dumb you are. If you had any proof you would give it. "I read it on the Internet, this guy said rv is real so it must be true".

As for your own claims at rv, anyone can go back and read it under the thread "spoon bending" and see how you failed all 5 pictures. That is not just my opinion either, others agree, while you had not one comment of support for your daft claims.

You want to try again, Fine but not by email. If you want to do it then it has to be on this page so that others can judge for themselves.
I have selected a picture from the web, one that anyone will be able to check for themselves. I have printed it off and have it on my desk. So what is it?
After you have failed, which you clearly will, I will direct you to the picture so everyone can see for themselves how rubbish you are.

I cannot cheat on this because I will give you a clue that will only become apparent when you see the picture. You will then realise I could not change it to try and fool you.
Here is the clue. RP2C4R5

Go for it, tell us what you see. Ha ha hahahah.

Oh my God, I can't wait!


Posted By: cj

Posted On: Dec 21, 2007
Views: 686
RE: About Professor Radin's Video

not true at all as a matter of fact when i first brang up government testing etc and i have the documents which i do(which means ive seen the data)you said i was crazy and im getting my info from a comic book which indicates you had no knowledge of the testing or even the existance haha what a joke got ya! so you are truly the clueless and a horrible debunker i wil not rv the pic for you becuase even if i did you probably lie or mark it as lucky i will do it by email you have it anytime


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Dec 21, 2007
Views: 683
RE: About Professor Radin's Video

OMG! I can't believe it!
So, cj, you are afraid to run the test of your amazing rv skills. The test you asked me to do, to test the same rv skills you claim to have demonstrated successfully over the Internet hundreds of times. This time, for some strange reason, you refuse to do it. You refuse to describe one simple picture. And I was so sure you would get it spot on! Hahahahahahahaahah hahahahaahahahhh,

I wonder why you won't do it? Duh!

You have been unable to show us any of the amazing data that you claim is proof of rv

I wonder why you won't do it? Duh!

Stop making such a friggin fool of yourself you stupid little prat. Grow up. There is no point in making all the daft and stupid claims you keep on making if you refuse to back them up. Talk is easy cj.

Shame you can't deliver.

BTW, did I tell you I can make myself invisible by shoving the little finger of my right hand up my left nostril? No, sorry, I don't do demonstrations, but honestly, trust me, I really can do it!


Posted By: cj

Posted On: Dec 21, 2007
Views: 678
RE: About Professor Radin's Video

wow did you forget i said i would do it for you personally by email but screw it im convinced i no i can do it id rather you be blind to the issue like you r instead of informed i will do it for anyone else on here i will choose the person


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Dec 21, 2007
Views: 675
RE: About Professor Radin's Video

You can do it with the Pope for all I care.
If you can't do it on the Internet with me its because you can't do it.

What's the point anyway? You have already made a fool of yourself when you managed to get 5 wrong out of 5 with me last time. (check the thread "spoon bending").

Why do you carry on with this nonsense? Who on earth do you think you are fooling?

You need help. Its all very sad.


Posted By: xeoncat

Posted On: Dec 21, 2007
Views: 674
RE: About Professor Radin's Video

hmm, Keith is by any chance that RP2C4R5 a CRT TV in the form of a truck? Google found it, not me.


I selected a few articles from the journal of parapsychology from 2006 and a few random articles I had here and sent it by yousendit. if you're really interested in reading something, grab it before it goes away. It will be available for 7 days or 100 downloads. cj get it too. Unfortunally there's only one article about PK, the rest is about ESP or other effects.

I had a review of a book called The PK Zone by MD Pamela Rae Heath, but I don't know where I put it. cj if you're really interested in PK, read that book, it's the most exaustive historical description of all that happened in the history of PK. When describing anedoctal information, the author makes no distinction over real or hoax, that first part is purely historical. but the second part provides experiments made and conclusions about what conditions are probably needed to perform PK.

the articles I put in the .rar can be accessed by this link:

http://download.yousendit.com/5E10DEDD3F237F8A

it includes:
- Experimental Evaluation of a Feedback-Reinforcement Model for Dyadic ESP

- Anticipatory Awareness of Emotionally Charged Targets by Individuals with Histories of Emotional Trauma

- In Search of Magnetic Anomalies Associated with Haunt-Type Experiences: Pulses and Patterns in dual time-synchronized measurements

- Correspondence Letters from JoP 2006

- On the Centenary of Fredric Myers

- Glossary (you'll be needing this, when they don't understand something, they give it a name)

- Papers from The Parapsychological Association Conference (1998)

- Anomalies and Constraints:
Can Clairvoyance, Precognition, and Psychokinesis
Be Accommodated within Known Physics? (from JSE 2002)

- Anomalous Unconscious Emotional Responses: Evidence for a Reversal of the Arrow of Time (wackier article but cool, and Radin's on it. Keith will hate this one)

- Assessment of the Evidence for Psychic Functioning (from SAIC. This is probably the most interesting for Keith I think)

if someone asks where did you get those documents, you don't know me (and no, they're not free).


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Dec 22, 2007
Views: 669
RE: About Professor Radin's Video

xeoncat,
No, the image I selected is not a CRT TV in the form of a truck. I would not select a code that could be found by Google.

Thanks for all the info. I may take a look at it later.

However, my point still stands. If there was any evidence to support rv, tk, or any other paranormal activity, then it would be accepted. Evidence cannot be ignored. You don't even need tons of it from thousands of people from hundreds of tests by dozens of experimenters, you just need one solid piece of evidence. There just isn't any.

I appreciate that you find the hard reality disappointing, you want it to be true, but honestly, if there was any evidence how on earth could it be ignored? Understand this, there is no evidence!


Posted By: cj

Posted On: Dec 22, 2007
Views: 666
RE: About Professor Radin's Video

because of people like you who dismiss it dean radin awnsers every question youve ever posted and he would smash you in debate on the subject explain his work go ahead


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Dec 22, 2007
Views: 662
RE: About Professor Radin's Video

cj,
Try to stop being so childish, just once.
I don't care what the man SAYS, or what anyone else SAYS about RV. Try and get that very simple message through your thick head.


Posted By: cj

Posted On: Dec 22, 2007
Views: 657
RE: About Professor Radin's Video

HA exactly you just proved my point your mind is so shut you will never change and will always dimiss anything going against your outlook on how the universe works even tho your wrong so go be in denial on your own ,


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Dec 22, 2007
Views: 655
RE: About Professor Radin's Video

Try just once more to get the message cj, it really isn't difficult even for an idiot such as yourself.
There is no proof.
If there is then show it. Talking about it or quoting other nutters talking about it is not proof. Except in your pea size mind of course.
As you have repeatedly failed to produce any data whatsoever you are only making yourself look ever more dense by keep on repeating "its true" like a demented parrot on speed.
Your actions are those of a 5 year old toddler in nursery school.
If you have nothing else to say there is no point in repeating what we already know, that you have no proof.

Ready to take your RV test yet, or are you still too scared you will fail yet again?

You are such a jerk, seriously.


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