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| Posted By: travis Posted On: Mar 17, 2011 Views: 1010 | RE: The energy waves problem wow, you sure are an angry one...lol the reason that the electrodes have to be placed on the scalp is because the electrical impulses in the brain are of a very low amperage. That's the whole reason for having to concentrate and amplify them to do TK. Maybe if you spent more time on actually researching things, instead of concentrating on how insulting you can be, you might understand a thing or two...lol man, you're really out there : ) |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Mar 17, 2011 Views: 1008 | RE: The energy waves problem Please explain to me how I can carry out any scientific or meaningful research on TK? In the normal world, the one I inhabit, it works like this 1) A phenomonon is observed 2) Tests are carried out to determine the nature of the phenomonon 3) A theory is formed to explain the phenomenon 4) Predictions are made from the theory 5) A test is run to see if the outcome matches the prediction of the theory. 6) When the theory holds up to examination it is circulated among others for peer review. 7) When all others confirm the results the theory becomes accepted and is published. All that is now required is for someone to step forward and demonstrate TK under standard test conditions. The point here is that despite endless numbers of people claiming TK not one of them has ever stepped forward for testing, not even though they could claim $1,000,000 for doing so. Based on that simple fact alone it would take a very naive moron to believe that TK exists. So again, how do you expect me to scientificaly test it when all I, and anyone else, have ever seen is faked videos? All your claims about "focusing" Tk from the brain are daft and baseless, the sort of nonsense kids usually grow out of by the time they leave school. |
| Posted By: travis Posted On: Mar 17, 2011 Views: 1005 | RE: The energy waves problem well, for one thing, I've in very much detail explained to you how it could work, scientifically to boot. Also, whether or not those signals from the brain can be amplified or not, largely depends on the individual, and how much they either are, or not able to manipulate their own electromagnetic brain waves enough to amplify and focus them on a particular object's electromagnetic oscillation enough to move it. I don't see what is so difficult for you to understand about that. : / Also, You aren't "psychic" enough to know whether or not ALL of the posted videos you've seen, or not seen, are fake. So, if anyone is jumping ahead of their own "nonsense" in this particular conversation, it's you, not me. All I'm doing is stating the scientific facts of what I do know. You're the one saying I don't know what I'm talking about, which is entirely untrue. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Mar 18, 2011 Views: 999 | RE: The energy waves problem You really don't get it. Yes, I do know all those TK videos are fake, every last one of them. How do I know? Because TK does not exist. To prove me wrong would only require one person, just one, to give a demonstration under test conditions. If TK existed it would have been demonstrated! It hasn't. Not ever. Furthermore you don't know the difference between a verified scientific fact and your own unqualified and unsupported opinion. You have not given one "scientific explanation" of how it could work, just your opinion. You talk of "focusing" the brain's "electromagnetic field" and think that's a "scientific explanation". God give me strength when dealing with morons! That is no more a scientific explanation than a 10 year old talking about light sabers! Where is your proof? How do we "focus"? How do we discover a "particular object's electromagnetic oscillation"? Where is the science? Where are the test results? Where is the tested theory? You still haven't explained how I can study TK when no one will come foward to be tested. Try and learn the difference between ideas you happen to like and a verified scientific fact. It is because you cannot tell the difference you watch videos and accept them as being real. What I find so unbelievable is that with all the thousands of idiots that claim to have TK over all the years, not one, NOT ONE, has ever demonstrated it under basic test conditions, yet you believe it. Unbelievable! Not one shred of evidence to support it yet you accept it as a fact. You think that's being smart? You think that's a smart way to get on in the world, accepting things as facts when they are not? You think "matching our brain's electromagnetic field to an object's electromagnetic oscillation" makes sense? You really to grow up and learn how to sort facts from fiction because you really are talking a load of pure nonsense. |
| Posted By: travis Posted On: Mar 18, 2011 Views: 993 | RE: The energy waves problem Now that's funny : ) the only reason you're saying that the scientific reasons I've stated do not explain why it's possible, is because you don't understand any of them, or the scientific basis behind them. Like I said, research the things I've stated, and learn how to understand them, THEN you will see for yourself why it's possible. All of them are backed up by science and testing, and again, are very binary by comparison. here's some key terms to use: Electromagentism Anatomy Oscillation frequency Brain waves The atom Energy and light Silicon dioxide Also, for future reference, it would be a very good idea to actually research and understand all of the constituents involved in a particular idea, or anything else for that matter, before you decide to start a website devoted to disproving it, without making yourself appear to be jumping to conclusions and looking very uneducated regarding the subject. Just because You've never "seen" it occur, in person, or otherwise, doesn't mean it's not possible, Because scientific facts back up the fact of it's possibility, way more than any of your unfounded and/or uneducated "disproving" assumptions. : ) Just saying. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Mar 18, 2011 Views: 991 | RE: The energy waves problem You give a list of subjects you say I should study in order to understand TK. What on earth would be the point in studying those subjects when there is absolutely no proof whatsoever they have any connection to TK, and worse, there is no evidence that TK even exists. I would be very hard pushed to find a more pointless thing to do. You could just as well, and with equall reason, insist I study combustion, heat, aerodynamics and flight controls before I dare to suggest that flying firebreathing dragons don't exist. You just are not capable of making logical statements, you just keep on pouring out senseless garbage. Answer me one thing, just one thing. Why has TK never been demonstrated under basic test conditions? Please try and give a sensible reply. I realise you may find this challenging, but just give it your best shot. |
| Posted By: travis Posted On: Mar 18, 2011 Views: 988 | RE: The energy waves problem well, you say the scientific things I've stated have to connection to TK, So, it's obvious that you don't even understand what TK actually is, or even how it's proposed to be done. Like I said, RESEARCH and study to show yourself approved, or you will only continue to look very uneducated regarding the entire subject. I don't find your question "challenging" in the very least. Going by your responses so far, your question doesn't hold enough clout to be challenging..lol. The answer is very simple, You nor I, either one, know whether or not there's any actual documented cases. So, At least I'm admitting from my own standpoint that I've never seen it occur in person, Although, I know and actually understand the scientific means behind it's possibility. You don't even understand those things, let alone why you're saying it's BS, other than because you've never actually seen it...lol Trust me, sir, there's a lot of things that actually exist and that are very much fact, that I'm quite sure neither of us has ever seen for ourselves. : ) I believe that is your largest mental-block regarding understanding TK's possibility, outside of the fact that you obviously don't understand the scientific means behind it's existence. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Mar 18, 2011 Views: 986 | RE: The energy waves problem You admit you have never seen TK demonstrated. You say you don't know if any cases of TK have been documented. That is a pretty dumb thing to say, if it had ever been scientifically documented we would not be having this conversation because TK would be an established fact. So you have never seen TK demonstrated and TK has never been demonstrated under test conditions, anywhere, ever. Yet you believe it. You don't think that is dumb? You talk of " being able to manipulate their own electromagnetic brain waves enough to amplify and focus them on a particular object's electromagnetic oscillation enough to move it" and somehow you think that garbage makes sense. Pity you can't actually do it! I can't deal with idiots, it's like talking to a 5 year old. You have still not explained WHY nobody has demonstrated TK I am not taking this any further with you, you have a belief that TK exists even though there is not the slightest shred of evidence to support it. I am not intertested in beliefs. Continuing this discussion is pointless because you are not using facts or logic, just a belief. You are obviously extremely gullible and naive so let's just leave it there because I only deal in science and facts, you believe in myths. I have read all the nonsense I can take. Goodbye. |
| Posted By: travis Posted On: Mar 18, 2011 Views: 981 | RE: The energy waves problem The reason you don't think I'm using "logic" to bolster my viewpoints in this discussion can only be one of three reasons: Either,(#1) you don't understand enough about science to have this level of discussion, or: (#2) you're a retard, or: (#3) you're just a flat-out and complete idiot. You pick. Bye. |
| Posted By: Remote Control Man Posted On: Mar 27, 2011 Views: 958 | RE: The energy waves problem Just having a quick and amusing read through and saw this from Travis. "If Telekinetics weren't possible, we wouldn't be able to fly remote control airplanes with crystals that are cut to occilate at a specific point value and frequency. TK is the same principle, just at a much lower frequency level in the brain, and spatially concentrated and focused at a much higher level to the target object." Remote control does not employ the use of crystals, oscillating or not, they use microprocessors same as your computer. I cannot imagine why you think that. If as you say TK is the same principle as remote control that comparison would only be valid if every object moved by TK contained an internal crystal, which obviously they do not. This without even explaining how a person is supposed to "spatially concentrated and focused at a much higher level to the target object." How can that be done without physical equipment? Making these comparisons is meaningless and does not in any way support your argument. You cannot make a meaningful comparison of a sophisticated electronic gadget and the human brain, you are comparing apples to cars, they have nothing in common. Just thought you should know that so you do not repeat your mistake. |
| Posted By: travis Posted On: Mar 27, 2011 Views: 954 | RE: The energy waves problem Genius, remote control transmitters and receivers operate with a silicon dioxide crystal, that plugs in to the transmitter and the receiver. Yes, they do have microprocessors , but those microprocessors wouldn't be able to communicate without the crystals. Like I've stated many times before, do your "research", BEFORE you spout off a bunch of crap, making yourself look very uneducated in what you're attempting to discuss...... copy and past these two links into your browser, and learn something...... Link #1: http://www.google.com/#q=futaba+crystals&hl=en&prmd=ivns&source=univ&tbs =shop:1&tbo=u&sa=X&psj=1&ei=Q1OPTeJlp4LRAaDFnbgL&ved=0CDoQrQQ&biw=1280&b ih=649&fp=61ce7a0fcdd52f3e Link #2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon Link #3: http://www.crystalradio.net/howitworks/index.shtml Link#4: http://earlywireless.com/crystal_sets.htm With understanding that silicon the 8th most common occurring element in the universe by mass, it's not much of a "revelation" that TK is possible. You guys are making a big deal of virtually nothing :/ |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Mar 27, 2011 Views: 950 | RE: The energy waves problem Unlike Remote Control Man I do not have a great understanding of remote control gadgets but I do remember building my own radio crystal set many years ago and I am surprised they are still using crystals today. However, that aside, your argument in support of TK have nothing to do with remote control gadgets and can therefore be totally discounted. There are a number of points you have not answered, and you really need to if you want to avoid looking extremely foolish: 1)You cannot compare a remote control device to TK, there is no similarity in that to a human brain. The human brain transmits nothing whatsoever. With all the massive research on the human brain over many decades no one has ever recorded it transmitting anything at all. This is a fact so stop making this very silly comparison, otherwise supply undeniable evidence that the human brain can transmit a command to move an object. (This is just so ridiculous!) 2)You talk of "being able to manipulate their own electromagnetic brain waves enough to amplify and focus them on a particular object's electromagnetic oscillation enough to move it". How wonderful, sounds very scientific. Not! However, this is just a daft idea you have come up with, it has no evidence to support it whatsoever. Please explain HOW one can do this amazing feat! How does one "focus" without a lens? How does one "manipulate" one's "electromagnetic brain waves"? How are they "amplified? How do you connect to an object's "electromagnetic oscillation"? I already know in advance you are unable to answer these basic questions which are soley based on your own description so you really should be able to answer them, otherwise you will only confirm what is already obvious, you are a talking a load of unqualified bull sh it. Go ahead, prove me wrong by supplying the answers. Should be easy for you as you think you are so smart and I am a moron who knows nothing about science. Funny that, considering I have written a very popular book on science and physics. What have you done? I think we can agree the answer to that is nothing. So go ahead smart boy, prove me wrong. Yeah right! |
| Posted By: travis Posted On: Mar 27, 2011 Views: 948 | RE: The energy waves problem well, for one thing, I've already explained in great detail how TK is possible, with just very basic physics to back it up. Also, someone as inept as you are at understanding just very basic physics has absolutely NO business what soever writing and publishing a book about them, unless you're just hell-bent on proving to the world how uneducated you actually are. I'll just leave it at that for now...lol |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Mar 27, 2011 Views: 946 | RE: The energy waves problem Yet again you have refused to answer the questions I put to you, giving you the opportunity to explain yourself. It is now obvious that you cannot explain how your very silly idea could actually work thus confirming that you are just spouting cr#ap. As for your comment that you have already explained this in great detail this is simply not true. Please point out where we can read it! You call me "inept at explaining physics", you really are a joke. Here is the link to my Guest Book, read the comments, my site and book are very well respected and enjoyed! http://guestbook.sparklit.com/entries.spark?gbID=59304&gbaction=viewResp onses and my "Rate This Site" http://guestbook.sparklit.com/entries.spark?gbID=59304&gbaction=viewResp onses So with so many good reports for me and you calling me a moron only goes to show how out of touch with reality you are. What a joke you are, you cannot even explain your own dumb ideas and instead call me a moron when quite clearly I am not. Grow up and wise up. If you can't answer the questions have the grace to say so, or shut up and go away. You are the one acting like a moron! |
| Posted By: travis Posted On: Mar 27, 2011 Views: 942 | RE: The energy waves problem Yet again, you continue to publicly post your personal problems. First of all, I never called you a "moron". That's obviously a clear look into your own guilty conscience. Secondly, It's obvious you don't know much about science, or you would understand that all of the questions that you've raised to me, I've already answered, and also at least a few times over. Also,you sure are big on name-calling. Just exactly how old are you anyway? |
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