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Posted By: Bob Dole

Posted On: Jul 21, 2005
Views: 586
RE: A kiss on the forehead from your girlfriend.

Mow is from The Deer Hunter.


Posted By: GirlUWant

Posted On: Jul 21, 2005
Views: 582
RE: A kiss on the forehead from your girlfriend.

We pronounced it mow as in rhyming with cow. I still think it sounds very gay.


Posted By: adam

Posted On: Jul 21, 2005
Views: 580
RE: A kiss on the forehead from your girlfriend.

you get outta here right meow!


Posted By: Odd ViEt coNg

Posted On: Jul 22, 2005
Views: 556
RE: A kiss on the forehead from your girlfriend.

Mau!

Di Di Mau!!!

Toi muon mua nuoc suoi! Thang cac be!


Posted By: ok...

Posted On: Jul 22, 2005
Views: 551
RE: A kiss on the forehead from your girlfriend.

seriously. is everyone on this board completely homophobic? why does everything have to be "gay" when it's bad or lame or just crappy? what gives?


Posted By: GirlUWant

Posted On: Jul 23, 2005
Views: 546
RE: A kiss on the forehead from your girlfriend.

I have nothing against gay people. I have a teenager and the term "gay" doesn't really mean gay like that...


Posted By: ok...

Posted On: Jul 23, 2005
Views: 544
RE: A kiss on the forehead from your girlfriend.

I'm gonna have to takie you at your word here GUW, that you don't have a problem with gay people. But here's the thing, everywhere you go, you here "that's so gay!" any time there is anything negative to complain about. If they see a young man that they think is being a jerk, teenagers will call him "gay" or "a f-g." Gay teens grow up hearing words that are used to describe them, used to describe all the negative things and people around them. In a time when teens are trying to deal with coming to terms with their own sexuality, all they hear from their peers, and their peers parents, is that gay=bad. Gay teens commit suicide at an alarming rate, they get depressed and down because they feel that there is no place in society for them.

You might say that it "doesn't really mean that" but where did the phrase come from? From the original meaning of the word gay? "That's so... happy?" When people started using the phrase, and when it became common to use the word f-g to describe men they didn't like, were embarassed by or they felt had other than ideal characteristics, they were doing so because they associated the gay community with all that was creepy and wrong in the world.

So your teen might say it "doesn't mean that" and you might hear that argued, but taking the origins of the words, their negative connation and their impact, it just doesn't seem fair to hide behind the mask of intent. Just because you didn't mean it, doesn't mean it's appropriate. I could start saying that everything that sucks is totally "black" and that would be far from appropriate. It would probably be hurtful to many people, ignored by others, but undoubtably innappropriate. Your job, as a human being and a parent, is to demand culpability from yourself and those around you. If you "have no problem with gay people," why use an phrase that has it's roots in an insult against gay people everywhere? Perhaps that is something for you to examine.


Posted By: wow

Posted On: Jul 23, 2005
Views: 542
RE: A kiss on the forehead from your girlfriend.

Well said, ok... thank you


Posted By: Graham Norton

Posted On: Jul 23, 2005
Views: 539
RE: A kiss on the forehead from your girlfriend.

Not very well said at all...

Sounds like someone has some issues they can't handle and wants the rest of the world to change for them so they don't have to do any work. The origins of the word 'gay' means happy, not homosexual. You are also forgetting that in English a number of words, slang in particular have more than one meaning. The word 'gay' has evolved into meaning more than just homosexual and expecting the world to adjust just because you are confused by it all is pretty foolish. Blaming all the difficulties of being homosexual on kids vernacular shows a total lack of understanding about homosexual issues. You need to spend less time pointing at others and more time dealing with your very obvious problems in life.


Posted By: GirlU

Posted On: Jul 23, 2005
Views: 536
RE: A kiss on the forehead from your girlfriend.

My daughter has several gay friends. They know that they are totally accepted by me and I have a great relationship with all of them. I probably am exposed to more gays than a lot of people in my community, sounds funny, but mainly because my daughter is in band and orchestra.

In my circle of friends, there is a male-male couple that I have a lot of fun being around, so maybe I feel comfortable using it not because I am trying to make it into an insult, but to me it is a term that we all use sometimes to tease or even in a tone of acceptance.

Sorry, didn't mean to be offensive at all...I agree that young gay kids have a hard time in this world, and the ones that I know all feel very comfortable in my home.


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