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| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Mar 31, 2009 Views: 916 | RE: Infinite disproves evolution You ignore everything that the scientific world accepts as proof and continue to show any amazing lack of knowledge on every subject you mention. You are only 11 so I suppose it is only to be expected so I will not waste any more time on you. You stick with your "God made it all" theory and we will leave it at that. BTW one thing that amuses me, don´t you think it very deceitful of God to put all those fossils in the soil to make it look as if they survived before man. I wonder why he did that, did he feel like playing a huge joke on us? |
| Posted By: ZX9 Posted On: Mar 31, 2009 Views: 914 | RE: Infinite disproves evolution Keith, if you didn't know I was an eleven year old, perhaps you would not automatically shve my talk aside as insipid. I GIVE UP ALSO given that you ignore everything I say. If you would like to rule me out because of my age, well, whatever. Once again you give no examples what so ever, you merely say: you "continue to show any amazing lack of knowledge on every subject you mention". That's VERY specific! Keith, is this site age discrimination, or scietnific discussion? Good Grief! If you choose to ignore ALL of my extensive, gigantic, and extraneous posts (which you probably have not even read!), then good for you! Lol, you managed to give up vs. an 11-year old! Congrats! Also, if you call this closed than that is truly sad, for you. I can understand the ones with Ridler, but this would be pathetic. Keith, just because you have no defense (If you have some, SPEAK UP!) doesn't mean you have to discriminate my age. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Apr 1, 2009 Views: 912 | RE: Infinite disproves evolution There is nothing worse than trying to have a discussion with someone who truly thinks they are very clever when in fact they are ignorant of the things they discuss. It is a pointless and futile exercise. You fit right into that category. This is nothing to do with your age but your ignorance. I know that you will not accept that, but everyone else reading this post will. You are in no position to argue because you know so little. I have studied science for something like 50 years, I do know what I am talking about, you do not. |
| Posted By: ZX9 Posted On: Apr 1, 2009 Views: 908 | RE: Infinite disproves evolution Then give me an example of your amazing evidence. What have you learned in those fifty years? |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Apr 2, 2009 Views: 905 | RE: Infinite disproves evolution I have learned not to waste my time engaging in futile discussions with those that do not posses the wit to understand what I am saying and are unable to recognise a fact when presented with it. You go on believing in whatever nonsense you want, I am just not interested. |
| Posted By: ZX9 Posted On: Apr 4, 2009 Views: 899 | RE: Infinite disproves evolution There are other people, surely, reading, or going to read, this discussion. Yet, I am the only one of us who has posted facts. I am about to give up on this site. You say that you do not discriminate my age, but you also say "unable to recognise a fact when presented with it". What facts have you given me? How is that NOT discrimination if you have no proof of the very fact that I am ignorant? Once again, I shall soon give up, if you listen to nothing. |
| Posted By: ZX9 Posted On: Apr 4, 2009 Views: 898 | RE: Infinite disproves evolution Keith the majority of the first page is me giving evidence in very long posts, and you replying in your usual 'you are ignorant...' fashion in tiny little paragraphs. Who is the ignorant one again? Forgive me, once again, but I have'nt seen you ever exerting your fifty years of knowledge in more than those agreeing/disagreeing paragraphs. Aside from the beginning of the topics, that is where your longest post is. I am not saying a long post makes you smart, but it gives evidence. Ok, I'm tired of this. I AM LEAVING!! Have fun with the people that agree with you, that will be a fun argument, lol. Perhaps they won't be so ignorant as me? Perhaps they will give more evidence? I have better things to do on my computer anyway than argue with someone who will never address anything I say in anything. Ok I haven't given much on the second page, so don't start saying 'What evidence?' again. But take a look at the first page. I beat you. Not the (ignorant) evolutionary world of "science", but you. You won't agree, but you have no evidence. I can predict what you will say next: 'You are ignorant of the evidence the entire world is giving you!(lol) I will not talk with those who are to full of themselves to realize facts. You ignore ME ZX9...'Blah blah blah, you repeat yourself. It is the same every one of my posts, that is why I am leaving. You have NO defense, yet you continue with how ignorant I am. That is why I am leaving. At first I thought this could be a good site, I would say something, you would try to disprove it, I would defend myself, and so forth. But it is merely I say something you say I am ignorant, blind whatever. You were a disappointment Keith. I did not think the evolutionary world was that deprived of facts. Perhaps it is even more of a lie than I thought. Perhaps when it finds a single clue, they make a TV show to support its boneless body of ignorance. You have shown me that was close to true. Good bye Keith. I will still pray for you. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Apr 4, 2009 Views: 894 | RE: RE: Infinite disproves evolution This is the first paragraph of your first post. "If infinite is real how in the world is life randomly going to be created? If anything is infinite then there are surely no boundaries on the universe;Something else is infinite. Therefore probability is changed. How could life be created, even micro organisms? Besides how could the complexities of even a cell be created? Even then, how was there a beginning?" How am I supposed to answer that? It´s meaningless drivel. What does it mean? I would defy anyone to understand it let alone answer it! You then finish with a totally false claim about a living clam being wrongly carbon dated!!!! That alone shows an amazing amount of ignorance. Your remarks are so ignorant, nonsensical and stupid it is impossible to know where to begin. When you have learned something about carbon dating, fossil records, geology, history and how to research and use logic, instead of filling your head with all that "God created man" crap and swallowing it all, come back and try again. Until then good riddance. |
| Posted By: Fred Posted On: Apr 4, 2009 Views: 891 | RE: Infinite disproves evolution I have looked through the topic and am inclined to agree with ZX9: You do not choose to look at his other posts. I agree, that the opening post may be idiocy; but what does an 11 year old know about carbon dating? But you refuse to address other questions such as: Previously you said that cd is another tool in the toolbox; what are the other tools for dating items? He addressed some, which were dependent on cd, and therefore some scientists end up using circular reasoning, according to him. Perhaps I am also ignorant, but I see you only addressing the things you would like to. Also, at least to me, his posts do make sense. ***************************************************** EDITOR: THIS IS IN FACT ZX9 PRETENDING TO BE SOMEONE ELSE, VERY SAD. KEITH ***************************************************** |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Apr 4, 2009 Views: 890 | RE: RE: Infinite disproves evolution I see that you suffer from the same problem as ZX9, neither of you seem capable of reading my replies, but then that is not surprising is it? FRED IS ZX9 Anyway ZX9 - pretending to be Fred - here is my reply showing how wrong you are. "it´s just another tool in the box to be used alongside other methods such as: historical records, tree ring patterns, soil strata, other finds, etc, etc." Don´t try and fool me again, I am not stupid. |
| Posted By: ZX9/Fred Posted On: Apr 5, 2009 Views: 882 | RE: Infinity disproves evolution! I figured you'd see the same IP. I'd hoped it would take you longer though. OK:"historical records, tree ring patterns, soil strata, other finds, etc, etc." First, historical records are generally not accurate more than a few thousand years. Problems such as mistranslation, misinterpretation, and other things make it hard to get anything accurate extremely far back. Especially not "millions or billions" of years back. Lol, did cavemen, not that I believe in them, record their history? Then tree ring patterns; how far back do you find trees? A few hundred years? They decay and rot. They do not last for "millions or billions" of years. Soil strata is also incorrect, due to the fact that you can not date how long the rock cycle takes and the date of the layers IS BASED OFF OF OTHER THINGS(if not the approximate length of the rock cycle, which as I said can NEVER be correctly inputted, no matter how many factors you have). Other things in the layers of soil also must be dated, so that is also a flawed source of dating. Ok if there is something I'm missing on this, I'm not a rock scientist, I'm just 11. BTW, I will hopefully have something for your comeback too. Other finds is just to put a 4th thing on there;other finds have to be dated too! What were they dated from. OK some of your things work for a short time before now, but not, as you claim, millions(or billions, lol) of years. I thank you for giving 'evidence', but I have shown undeniable flaws in them. Finally, Fred was pitiful, but you didn't get it at first, on the first page. Someone actually replied to 'him'! |
| Posted By: ZX9 Posted On: Apr 5, 2009 Views: 881 | RE: Infinite disproves evolution Never will you take two minutes to even look up a Wiki to see if I make any sense. I may not be the best author, designer of paragraphs, or king of the written word, but that isn't what this site is for, I hope. Keith, I am weary of repeating myself, but your remarks are at least worth replying to. I'm off to do something more fun... |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Apr 6, 2009 Views: 878 | RE: Infinite disproves evolution Thank Christ for that, you are way too ignorant to bother with. If God made man and all the animals just as they are today I wonder why He went to all the trouble to put fossils of dinosaurs and other extinct animals deep in the ground? Why would He deliberately make it look as if these animals evolved naturally and eventually died out? Why would He lie to us, to make us look fools? Strange way for a so called loving God to act don´t you think to lie to us? Why? What would be the point? How do you explain that we share 97% of our DNA with chimps? I know you have no answer for all of this. Never mind, it´s all way too difficult for you to understand, it´s much easier to say God made everything, in the same way thousands of years ago God was blamed for disease, bad weather, droughts etc. We now know how to stop those diseases with pure water and good sanitation. The world has moved on thanks to science and education, you unfortunately have not. You are still stuck in the Dark Ages. You are a fool and are too foolish to know it. You should ask yourself why you do not have a single post supporting your stupid views but three who, like me, totally disagree. That should tell you something, if you had any sense! |
| Posted By: ZX9 Posted On: Apr 6, 2009 Views: 873 | RE: Infinite disproves evolution Does the Bible not say that He will test us? Does the Bible not say that in the end there will be few believers? Evolution will eventually be to far away from God for a corralation to be credible. It also says those believers will not perish, but have eternal life. Keith I presume you are either Catholic or some kind of Christian. I am Protestant, Assembly of God. Proudly. Keith, there are explanations, but you are inclined you avoid them. |
| Posted By: ZX9 Posted On: Apr 6, 2009 Views: 872 | RE: RE: Infinite disproves evolution "You should ask yourself why you do not have a single post supporting your stupid views but three who, like me, totally disagree. That should tell you something, if you had any sense!" You should reread that; it doesn't make any sense. It's hard for posts to disagree with anyone, and I didn't know you were a post, lol: "...have a single post supporting your stupid views but three who, like me, totally disagree." I have no clue what that means. Have you not noticed, in this world, how everything magically works together? Have you not thought how PERFECT everything is? Now you shouldn't have to ask, because you can just look around. For instance, how did our bodies come to be so perfect; your answer, billions of years of evolution; my reply: Is it not true that one celled organisms are said to be the smallest life? Well, I don't care,whatever the smallest life is:look at it. Look at its simple complexities: how did they come to be if there was no life form before it to evolve? Or, look at the first life form, how did it evolve if there were no life forms before it? How? How? How? You navigate your way around giving answers. Apes: can we not be similar? Can we not be classified similarly? Must it be true that if something has SIMILAR DNA then it must be connected in an evolutionary chain. Perhaps we are LIKE them! Besides, if we evolved into humans, couldn't we evolve out? If you are religious then this would not corralate. God made us. Why would he destroy us, evolve us, change us from who we are? Who knows what we would evolve into? This means we could be some not-as-smart predatior or something in the future. If you've ever seen the series Primeval then they presume that with this portal thing... Anyway, if you are religious there are a multitude of problems. Another: How did we come from dust, as the Bible clearly states, if we evolved? I've heard evolutionists say everything originally evolved from/on/in: crystals, a nutrient rich puddle, impact of an asteroid randomly putting stuff together forming a small organism... It's idiocy. I have an extensive argument for each. I would enjoy hearing your opinion. Simply: Cystals are't dust. how in this nutrient rich puddle did it form? Did water come witha few brken sticks and create life? Lol, no. The next is just stupid. Basically this is theorized from supercolliders. When you impact misc. particles, new misc. particles we've never seen form. Some scientists claim to have found the particle that gives mass (this is really cool, but another discussion). Anyway, how did this happen? " The odds of even one simple protein molecule forming by chance are 1 in 10 to the 113th power, and thousands of different proteins are needed to form life." http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB010.html Darwin did not come up with evolution, he theorized and looked for answers. He found none. Today scientists search in vain, and make up stuff to keep the public on their side. Anyway(that entire thing was my reply to the billions of years...), everything works together quite well, in cycles usually. But everything cannot be cycle, or nothing would EVER permanently change. You could look at things like either circles or lines, cycles or infinite. If I have proven the existence of circles or cycles then is not infinite proven? Simply? Because of the fact that in geometry things are either a closed shape, or an open segment, you can have further proof that this is true. Infinite is real. If you disagree with the cycle-infinite thing whatever. It is just an idea. Even if you disagree then cycles WOULD be infinite,right? Could potential infinite count? For with the perfect effects, Earth has the potential to be infinite. With the renewal of everything then everything would not just wear away. Newton's third law is: For every force there is an equal and opposite reaction. If this is true, then infinite energy is real. At least the infinite passing on of it! It must! Energy must, MUST ALWAYS BE SOMEWHERE! It will exist infinitely. Period. There is no argument. That is, unless you defy Newton's third law. Keith, READ THE WHOLE POST! |
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