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| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Apr 6, 2009 Views: 823 | RE: Infinite disproves evolution You are too stupid to bother with. That daft quote of yours... "The odds of even one simple protein molecule forming by chance are 1 in 10 to the 113th power, and thousands of different proteins are needed to form life." http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB010.html I went to that site wondering who could possibly come up with such a crap calculation, turns out is from the Watchtower, a religious publication. Should have known it! WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE IS READ THE REST OF THE PAGE BECAUSE IT CLEARLY EXPLAINS WHY THOSE FIGURES ARE PURE CRAP. YOU RECOMMEND A SITE THAT SHOWS YOU ARE WRONG!!!!YOU ARE SO STUPID! I will give you another example of where you shoot yourself in the foot. You said (first post) ....."If anything is infinite then there are surely no boundaries on the universe"... You are even too stupid to see the error in your thinking! I will explain it for you as you have so much to learn. If the universe is infinite then so is the number of planets. Therefore no matter how unlikely it is for life to form, with an infinite number of possibilities THEN IT MUST HAPPEN because with infinity EVERY possible outcome will happen. Didn´t think it through did you? Same as your daft clam carbon dating claim, same as your daft "God is testing us" by burying fossils of animals that never lived, same as your daft claim about the odds against life forming. YOU CAN´T GET ANYTHING RIGHT! You say that all evidence relating to fossils is to be disregarded because God put them there to test us. In other words it is impossible to prove you wrong because there is no evidence whatsoever that you will accept. Makes this discussion pointless then. That´s it, I have had as much of your stupidity as I can take. You honestly are a fool. Goodbye. |
| Posted By: ZX9 Posted On: Apr 7, 2009 Views: 814 | RE: Infinite disproves evolution Keith, I did not recommend it, I used it's proof. I don't care I'm leaving too. You are insoluble. You use those pitiful means? Good bye to you too. You do not listen. It does not mean everything is a test! You take everything as an absolute. Actually I did think it through, I'm not trying to disprove life. Besides I'm winning the evolutionary half. You probably won't read this, but there is tons of evidence against you. Have you not noticed, in this world, how everything magically works together? Have you not thought how PERFECT everything is? Now you shouldn't have to ask, because you can just look around. For instance, how did our bodies come to be so perfect; your answer, billions of years of evolution; my reply: Is it not true that one celled organisms are said to be the smallest life? Well, I don't care,whatever the smallest life is:look at it. Look at its simple complexities: how did they come to be if there was no life form before it to evolve? Or, look at the first life form, how did it evolve if there were no life forms before it? How? How? How? You navigate your way around giving answers. Apes: can we not be similar? Can we not be classified similarly? Must it be true that if something has SIMILAR DNA then it must be connected in an evolutionary chain. Perhaps we are LIKE them! Besides, if we evolved into humans, couldn't we evolve out? If you are religious then this would not corralate. God made us. Why would he destroy us, evolve us, change us from who we are? Who knows what we would evolve into? This means we could be some not-as-smart predatior or something in the future. If you've ever seen the series Primeval then they presume that with this portal thing... Anyway, if you are religious there are a multitude of problems. Another: How did we come from dust, as the Bible clearly states, if we evolved? I've heard evolutionists say everything originally evolved from/on/in: crystals, a nutrient rich puddle, impact of an asteroid randomly putting stuff together forming a small organism... It's idiocy. I have an extensive argument for each. I would enjoy hearing your opinion. Simply: Cystals are't dust. how in this nutrient rich puddle did it form? Did water come witha few brken sticks and create life? Lol, no. The next is just stupid. Basically this is theorized from supercolliders. When you impact misc. particles, new misc. particles we've never seen form. Some scientists claim to have found the particle that gives mass (this is really cool, but another discussion). Anyway, how did this happen? You have no answer. I said it, it is true: "You navigate your way around giving answers." You have proven that on your last post. For a 63 year old, you don't have much evidence. All a science veteran can come up with is to look at the site to disprove me? I would think you would have your own site to refer to! Come on. Good Bye. I am fed up. You are not the greatest at arguing. You have no defense to argue about. YOU, yourself, has NO defense. You are merely stating the obvious, and putting it in the format in which it will serve your purpose. GOOD BYE! BTW, congrats, the only reason I left is because I am fed up. Surely you have learned I will always have a defense. You try to say "you talk trash" or "I give up" but that is not scientific. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Apr 8, 2009 Views: 809 | RE: Infinite disproves evolution As ZX9 made so many points in his arguments against evolution, I decided for the sake of convenience to summarise them here. 1) "I´ve heard evolutionists say everything originally evolved from/on/in: crystals, a nutrient rich puddle, impact of an asteroid randomly putting stuff together forming a small organism..." This is probably the most incredibly stupid of all of his stupid remarks, I find it incredible that anyone can come out with such a farcical explanation. Unreal! 2) " Besides your carbon dating process is completely incorrect! It's been proven! A living clam once came up 300 years old! ..." No living thing can be carbon dated. This is pure crap. Where does he get all this crap from? Comics? 3) "If anything is infinite then there are surely no boundaries on the universe;Something else is infinite. Therefore probability is changed. How could life be created, even micro organisms?..." It´s his own argument but he didn´t think it through. In an infinite universe every possible outcome must happen, and that includes life spontaneously forming. 4) "How the heck are cells, DNA, anything so complex going to form randomly?..." Randomly? Randomly! Why would anyone challenge evolution when they are so bloody clueless about it? It amazes me. His ignorance is absolutely astounding. 5) "Evolution was an idea Darwin had. He considered it probable and looked for proof. He found none" What can I say? Such stupidity defies belief. I suggest you read Darwin´s book and you will there find his proof that he based his theory of evolution on. Why do you keep coming out with such crap? Do they actually teach you this in church or do you just make it up? 6) "Lol, did cavemen, not that I believe in them, record their history?.." Okay with that everyone? Cavemen did not exist. This just keeps getting worse. I wonder what planet this idiot lives on? Unbelievable! As a matter of fact they did in a way record their history with their cave paintings. Okay? 7) "Does the Bible not say that He will test us?..." This is in response to my question asking why would God bury all those fossils in the ground for us to find as it makes it look like we evolved. Apparently He only did it to test us. I see. The God people´s standard response when they have no answer. 8) "The odds of even one simple protein molecule forming by chance are 1 in 10 to the 113th power, and thousands of different proteins are needed to form life..." That figure is so wrong. It was published by the Watchtower, a religious paper given out for free by the Salvation Army promoting the work of God. The site that he got it from, and gave the link to, actually explains why those figures are total nonsense, and he uses it to support his argument! Doh That´s all folks. Congratulations ZX9 on winning the argument due to all those amazing facts you supplied. Well done lad! I am often amazed by the ignorance of some people who argue against science, and ZX9 is a typical example of that. How can you argue against his astonishingly astounding ignorance? Words fail me. In summary, ZX9 produces a load of totally inaccurate and nonsensical really stupid made up "facts" about evolution - God knows where he gets them from or if just makes them up - then goes on to say they are nonsensical so evolution must be wrong. Amazing! The sad thing is he can´t even see it! I will now close this thread as it has become so monotonous and repetitive. No one else is interested in joining in - I wonder why? - and ZX9 can always open another if he wants to reply, but I will not be making any replies to him, that´s for sure! |
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