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| Posted By: Thana Posted On: May 14, 2007 Views: 1362 | A simple challenge On this little forum I'm seeing little more than childish arguing, one side flat out refusing TK exists and one side flat out refusing that TK doesn't exist. Why can't the pro TK side work out some experiments that prove TK? Or turn themselves in to be tested for TK? Or even cite actual scientific reports where TK has been proven rather than just say 'oh, the soviet union, hitler and the FBI all used TK'. Give some solid proof, not just dance around whining about how the other side should open their minds! And the anti TK side, stop just plain bashing the pro TK side, yes, you have done some experiments and certain TK stunts have been disproven, but you should go on to disprove more stunts, and yes, a lot of the pro TK people are just nutcases who want to believe... but have you ever noticed that a lot of the anti TK people are also nutcases who just refuse to believe? The only reason they have an advantage here is because there have been tests to disprove certain 'evidence' of TK. I myself, as a person who would like to see TK proved to be reality, although I am quite doubtful of it's existance (due to the lack of evidence despite hundreds of years worth of claims and reasearch) will be performing my own experiments to see if I can create TK phenomena. Once I have created these phenomena I will post my exact method, and invite others to attempt to replicate and disprove it. Indeed, I invite all of you who believe you have TK powers to do the same thing. If you really have TK then you will be able to create phenomena that non TK type people can't replicate, and as such, you will need to be tested in a laboratory type environment. If you can still create the phenomena there, and the people testing you can't disprove or debunk it, then congratulations! You just proved TK exists! So lets all be a little more civil, and stop metaphorically beating each other with clubs, and actually try to further our goals by ultimately proving or disproving the existance of TK. You can't prove the yeti does or does not exist with a yelling match, so why should you be able to prove anything else? |
| Posted By: Nick Posted On: May 14, 2007 Views: 1360 | RE: A simple challenge I just read every page of keiths site!!! Anywho, i'm trying to be less...something-toward keith, i learned this lesson long aggo (1 or 2 days lol) |
| Posted By: Brian Posted On: May 16, 2007 Views: 1351 | RE: A simple challenge There is nothing to argue about. TK has never been proven to exist in the first place. Until real evidence is brought fourth, by ANYONE, then all these rumors and allegations by people that claim TK is real is nothing but talk. They should put or shut up, like someone previously said. It's like debating with someone that 10 foot tall rabbits exist. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: May 16, 2007 Views: 1346 | RE: A simple challenge I have made the same points many many times. They just don't get it. |
| Posted By: Thana Posted On: May 16, 2007 Views: 1342 | RE: RE: A simple challenge Brian - Yes, I know. I actually made that point in my original post. The challenge is; 'make some proof that TK exists'. Keith - I know you have been making these points quite frequently, however you don't make them with a great deal of... tact. Or any tact at all really. Generally when you say these things you are doing it in the form of a verbal attack. That undermines the validity of whatever you have to say in the mind of the 'victim', and so you are ignored. I essentially repeated what you frequently say in the form of an invitation or challenge, and as a person who has no reputation on this board, I thought perhaps people would take me more seriously than you. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: May 16, 2007 Views: 1340 | RE: A simple challenge Well, I hope you are right... |
| Posted By: Nick Posted On: May 16, 2007 Views: 1338 | RE: A simple challenge i take here more seriously then you Keith No sarcasm... the list goes on... |
| Posted By: Kev Posted On: May 16, 2007 Views: 1336 | RE: A simple challenge Who is to say 10 ft. rabbits don't exist? Maybe we don't exist. Get real C'mon. TK is completely plausible! |
| Posted By: Brian Posted On: May 17, 2007 Views: 1333 | RE: A simple challenge I disagree that TK is even plausible. Not by any science in the know world, and if you you say 'well, maybe it's a science we don't understand', and why come to that conclusion? Because TK exists thus we must not understand its science? But TK doesn't exist and has never existed, thus any science about it doesn't exist either. TK is a phenomena that was introduced to the world by proven con artists, and then by other liars claiming they can do TK can but giving a new excuse on why they can't show their skill to anyone everytime they are asked. Plus you have these naive, wishful thinking common folk who think they can do some TK because of these little online tests you can make yourself which Keith has proved has nothing to do with TK. In otherwords, not only is there no proof of TK, but it shouldn't even have a proper name to begin with, there's no record of it ever existing in the first place, except in con schemes. Ten foot rabbits are just as real as TK, and both have had movies made about them. They're in good company. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: May 17, 2007 Views: 1324 | RE: A simple challenge Nick, You said "i take here more seriously then you Keith" Do you honestly expect me to take you seriously when you type like a 5 year old? |
| Posted By: Thana Posted On: May 17, 2007 Views: 1319 | RE: A simple challenge Brian, why are you on this board at all? You have made up your mind and will refuse to see it any other way, so you don't need to be here arguing about it. Or is that the point? You want to force the entire world to believe you? If that's the case, try television. It has a wider audience than this board. You might also want to find something more constructive to do with all your spare time. Might I suggest birdwatching? Or even cryptozoology? Perhaps you will find a 10ft rabbit. Remember, it wasn't that long ago that people thought the coleocanth was extinct and anyone who said they saw one would have been laughed at. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: May 17, 2007 Views: 1315 | RE: A simple challenge Thana, It doesn't help your cause to compare that people once thought the coleocanth was extinct with the possibility that TK may be real. Its a silly and meaningless comparison. Brian is right in what he says, there is no scientific evidence for TK thus no reason to believe in it. All it would take is for just one person to demonstrate TK in a controlled environment, the same way as every other experiment is conducted to provide proof of a theory. You do not see scientists posting a video on YouTube and claiming that is proof of their claim that...whatever. As I have said many times, talk is cheap, stop talking and just do it. |
| Posted By: Brian Posted On: May 18, 2007 Views: 1311 | RE: A simple challenge Thana. Your post made absolutely no sense whatsoever. I clearly explained why I don't believe in TK, and instead of challenging my reasons why I don't you simply accused me of being close minded, when in actuality my logic is quite open minded. If there was any shred of proof that exists that TK is real then I would consider it as being a possibility, but there isn't, No science backs it up, no proven eye witness or organizations devouted to study back it up. Why should I believe in something when there is absolutely no proof it exists? It's the same as you accusing me of close minded because I don't believe in unicorns. If you want to have an effective discussion about TK than atleast say something which adds to the credibility of TK existing. Because you, nor anyone else I've talked to on this board have done so. Like I said.. 'TK is not probable, nor plausible'. no science or eye witnesses has ever backed up that claim. That was me being reasonable, prove otherwise. Oh.. wait, you can't. Instead you'll attempt to change the subject again. |
| Posted By: Thana Posted On: May 18, 2007 Views: 1309 | RE: A simple challenge Brian, you are 'close minded'. No, there is no proof, but that does not mean that there is no possibility at all, ever, end of story, which is how you were saying it. And my coleocanth example makes sense because it illustrates the idea that the seemingly impossible can sometimes be possible. Are you people really that thick that you didn't notice that? And now I'm leaving because whilst I expected to be attacked, I thought it would be the pro-TK team, not the anti-TK team. Either way, trolling one-another isn't appropriate in a 'scientific' discussion and I don't feel like being baited into your club-swinging competition. |
| Posted By: Thana Posted On: May 18, 2007 Views: 1307 | RE: A simple challenge Sorry, I should have said 'I don't feel like being baited further...'. |
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