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| Posted By: Brian Posted On: May 27, 2007 Views: 591 | RE: A simple challenge Actually, Chester, I just recalled that you DID say that the Pro Tkers are worse with their behavior than the Anti-Tkers, granted, but you DID attempt to compare both sides as if they were both at fault in this debate. You didn't efficiently explain why. All I've been seeing is Anti-Tkers debating with rational common sense and actually addressing the facts or lack of facts on this issue, while the Pro-Tkers 'argue' with immature 'schoolyard' tactics, false statements, outright lies, and other irrelevant non-sense that they fail to back up. |
| Posted By: Manatee Posted On: May 28, 2007 Views: 584 | RE: A simple challenge See Thana's first post - it clearly states that pro-TK people need to come up with some proof. Stop saying 'put up or shut up' like you're the only one who thought of that, and that she/he is a total moron for being one of the multitudes of idiotic pro-TK people out there who make assertions without a shred of evidence. Actually, just shut up full stop. You really are fighting like children. I don't understand how the Keith guy on the forum is really the Keith guy on the website, he seems mature and intelligent on the website, but here, he seems like he's 12... and I'm not the only one who's noticed that. |
| Posted By: Brian Posted On: May 28, 2007 Views: 581 | RE: A simple challenge "See Thana's first post - it clearly states that pro-TK people need to come up with some proof" Then she should have stopped talking right there then, because the rest of her statements were off topic and false. "Stop saying 'put up or shut up' like you're the only one who thought of that, and that she/he is a total moron for being one of the multitudes of idiotic pro-TK people out there who make assertions without a shred of evidence." If Pro-TKers have no evidence whatsoever to back up the existence of TK then have nothing useful to add to the discussion. Which is precisely why they never say anything relevant to the debate. 'Put up or shut up' is exactly the advice they should heed on this subject. And if you disagree then explain why. Back up your opinion, it would make you more credible. "Actually, just shut up full stop. You really are fighting like children. I don't understand how the Keith guy on the forum is really the Keith guy on the website, he seems mature and intelligent on the website, but here, he seems like he's 12... and I'm not the only one who's noticed that." There you are implying that EVERYONE in this debate has been fighting like children. That statement is childish in itself, it's a generalize and off-base to begin with, Keith and myself have been clearly stating our opinions and insights on the subject of TK with facts, research, and common sense. And if you can't realize that then i'd suggest going back to school and taking a remedial reading comprehension class. Or grow up. One or the other. Just because thoughtful individuals attempt to have a discussion with certain others who make childish remarks, doesn't mean there isn't a purpose for that discussion. The purpose is to discuss if TK is or isn't a reality. And that is why no matter how many morons come to these boards the subject will always be open. It's about informing the uninformed, this is a internet website, new people pass through all of the time. I'm glad Keith made this site, it's the most intelligent and neutral of all of the TK sites i've been to. Quit whining about people' childishly' arguing. That in itself is childish, and you never fully explained why you assume that. Quit generalizing everyone as being equal on these boards, they arent. |
| Posted By: Brian Posted On: May 28, 2007 Views: 578 | RE: RE: A simple challenge Ok, I'm going to analyze and comment on Thana's entire opening post, so every naive idiot will stop praising it as objective and truthful, which it was neither. "On this little forum I'm seeing little more than childish arguing, one side flat out refusing TK exists and one side flat out refusing that TK doesn't exist." That's a generalization, and she's assuming each side was 'flat out refusing' to consider the other side's claims as being possible. Firstly, not everyone was doing that, and secondly, she never pointed out who or when someone wasallegedly doing it. This is why generalizations are B.S. "Why can't the pro TK side work out some experiments that prove TK? Or turn themselves in to be tested for TK? Or even cite actual scientific reports where TK has been proven rather than just say 'oh, the soviet union, hitler and the FBI all used TK'. Give some solid proof, not just dance around whining about how the other side should open their minds!" This is the one paragraph she was right about. It's actually all on the Pro-Tkers side to prove anything. I will explain this more following the next quote. "And the anti TK side, stop just plain bashing the pro TK side, yes, you have done some experiments and certain TK stunts have been disproven, but you should go on to disprove more stunts, and yes, a lot of the pro TK people are just nutcases who want to believe... but have you ever noticed that a lot of the anti TK people are also nutcases who just refuse to believe? The only reason they have an advantage here is because there have been tests to disprove certain 'evidence' of TK." She flat out doesn't know what she's talking about here, as both Keith and myself have mentioned, no phenomena, real or fiction, can be disproved beyond a scientific certainty. The only thing that CAN be proved about TK is if it exists. That's up to neutral scientists and Pro-Tkers to do. "So lets all be a little more civil, and stop metaphorically beating each other with clubs, and actually try to further our goals by ultimately proving or disproving the existance of TK. You can't prove the yeti does or does not exist with a yelling match, so why should you be able to prove anything else?" Another baseless generalization, again, WHO was not being civil and beating each other with clubs? Everyone? Contrary to her implication, some of us debate with facts and common sense, while others debate with nothing more than petty schoolyard antics, and no facts. And no.. you can't prove a Yeti exists with a yelling match, but you CAN prove it does with intelligent debate. Which is what some of us HAVE been doing in regards to TK. We just can't DISPROVE something exists. There is no way of doing it, again, another false assumption by Thana. Like I said. The next time a person wants to step up and be 'a voice of reason', they should speak more carefully, unlike Thana did. |
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