| RETURN TO TELEKINESIS PAGE - TELEKINESIS -> PK experiments | Start A New Topic | Reply |
| Post Info | TOPIC: PK experiments |
| Posted By: Luke Posted On: Jun 11, 2009 Views: 2323 | PK experiments I define myself as a skeptic who wants to believe. I've tried my own similar PK experiments, and came to conclude something that was very similar as this author's conclusion. Now, I was wondering, during my experiments with the psi-wheel it felt as if there really was a "thread" running between my fingertips and the corners of the wheel. Once I placed it under glass, I could feel nothing, and didn't get anything to move. Was the thread possibly a real attempt to move the object, or just the power of suggestion in my brain? Something similar happens when I try to form a psi-ball, it feels like energy is between my fingers, and when I move my hands together or further apart, I feel slight resistance, like my arms are underwater. Has anyone had similar experiences? If so, what do you suppose a reasonable explanation is? I'm pretty sure it's all just mind tricks, but it seems too real. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Jun 13, 2009 Views: 2314 | RE: PK experiments It seems to me that what you feel is all in the mind, the power of suggestion, it can be very convincing. |
| Posted By: nogard Posted On: Jun 16, 2009 Views: 2305 | RE: PK experiments oke.. Noone of you guys know me, and dont want to know, for suere. Ive read few of your posts and replies that one argues with another, Marc and Keith. And ive seen and red some stuff lately i was researching on TK. Incluiding this article of this site ive red, it seems like Keith is sort of rejecter of unknown powers. Isnt that right, Keith? Maybe im wrong. But, what i think about TK (real or not), is not important, what im here to say and maybe to talk to some of you is: This thing, that most of you are interested in TK and other things like that, is interesting, and trying to experiment such "power" by yourself. Is great. Im not scientist or researcher, im just me. There might exist such thing, as TK, or Telepathy, or something else, and maybe they, who has such ability, are afraid to say so cause they might get on scientific table, or maybe one of it exists. Im actually on ****imistic part of all of it, but not now. Keith, what is wrong with you? what's your problem? if they want to believe, let them believe. Its not like i believe or dont believe. Your problem is, you are rejecting everyone, you want to be the only one that is right. Im not protecting TK and im not defending anything, im just expressing myself. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Jun 17, 2009 Views: 2301 | RE: RE: PK experiments There is nothing wrong with me. This site is all about truth and facts and everything is supported by solid evidence. When people come on and say they can perform TK I have to point out to them that it has never been demonstrated and there is not one single shred of evidence to support it, therefore I reject their claim. If anyone claims to be able to do it fine, but do not bother to tell me about it until they have successfully demonstrated it under test conditions. I consider that to be perfectly reasonable requirement. As for not wanting to reveal their wondrous talent, I have heard more excuses for that than I´ve had hot dinners. Not too hard to figure out why is it? |
| Posted By: nogard Posted On: Jun 18, 2009 Views: 2297 | RE: PK experiments well, you might be jealous that they claim they can do and you tried to perform TK experiments and failed, so you just jealous of what they claim they can do. (what i think). You dont actually know if TK exists or not, you are just trying to be right, and you are trying to prove that everyone else who thinks TK exists, are wrong. I respect in what other people believes, but, i want them to respect my beliefs too. But what if what they claim is true? Try to be softer on this things. you are like, ex: "Person - oh, i have this experiment and i figured out i have a TK ability, woah, awesome. You - No, you dont, TK doesnt exists and you try to do experiments in closed room and try to move object which is inside closed glass box" You want them to reject their theory about TK. Becides, IF TK would exist (maybe it does) do you think you could move objects inside glass box or empty aquarium? glass, is a barrier that doesnt let you reah the object. Just like Bat, bats cant see in daylight, so they emit their waves, which bounce off the stuff they might hit, it concerns glass too, and bat can avoid hitting the object/obstacle. so does the mind, if TK IS real (maybe it is) you might emit those almost similar waves, but not to evade stuff, but to controle them with your mind, so the glass barrier might block your "reach" to the object. Whoever is trying to levitate or move stuff and claim that "He" has TK ability, try on something easyer to move/levitate. like feathers, but dont blow on them, because that wouldnt definitely be a TK. As for you keith, try to understand what others are trying to go through. eve if there is no TK, let them believe they have it, after some time they will realize it was a fake "time loss", and if they do have it, let them have it. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Jun 18, 2009 Views: 2294 | RE: PK experiments Bats can´t see in daylight? That only applies to bats that are blind, and that means thay can´t see, regardless of it being in daylight or darkness! Bats do not use mysterious "waves" to guide them in poor visibility (or if they are blind) they use echo location, sound in other words, so I fail to see your point, which is what exactly? You still fail to see my point. All I am saying is that people are entitled to believe in whatever they like, TK, fairies, dragons, goblins, you name it. However, I am not interested in any claim they may make regarding any paranormal powers they claim to have unless they can supply proof. I would accept an article in any reputable magazine or newspaper, or from any reputable university or laboratory that they have actually witnessed a successful demonstration under test conditions. In other words, in case you are still confused, I am not interested in unsupported claims, I get hundreds of them! Anyone can claim they can levitate or do TK, but without proof it is meaningless. Oh, by the way, I can walk on water. Get it? |
| Posted By: nogard Posted On: Jun 18, 2009 Views: 2289 | RE: PK experiments bats DO use waves. "Sound waves" but without releasing any sound. THAT was only an exaple with which i was trying to open your eyes on your "closed with glass box" experiments. But Bat thing aside now. You are right, people believe in anything, dragons, fairies, aliens, TK, PK, god, devil, heaven, hell, so let them believe! The ones that believe in god or in devil (not my case), didnt need any proof to believe in that "thing". The bible you say? its just thriller written by some guy who wanted to be famous or whatever! ====================================================== NOTE FROM KEITH: THIS IDIOT THINKS THE BIBLE IS A THRILLER WRITTEN BY ONE PERSON!!!!!!!!!!!! ====================================================== Now, you need proof you say? people/scientists, who are researching Aliens or spaceships (i dont believe). Ill try say this in other words.. Scientists, or even military, who are releasing any secret subjects, their experiments on any flying objects, planes, they are releasing, full of lights n it so humans would start to believe that they are not the only creatures in the universe. But, Military, or whoever is behind this, are hiding this in their super hidden facility somewhere underground. THEY ARE HIDING THE SECRETS. Do you think that if TK exists, they would release TRUTH in this world to other humans to know? Sure... As i said before, i am not defending anything, nor insulting anyone. Now, I fail to see your point? no. i can exactly see where are you trying to lead. But as i say, you are trying to be right. Do you think anyone would go to some scientific place to be studied by scientists? "Oh i have TK ability and i can move and levitate objects, how amazing i am. i am going to be a lab rat to the scientists, they are going to open me and study how did i perform TK". do you think people dont think things like that? by the way, why are you so mad/nervous? i can see it by the way text is written. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Jun 18, 2009 Views: 2283 | RE: PK experiments You just said, and I quote..."bats DO use waves. "Sound waves" but without releasing any sound." How stupid are you? Go away and get a brain. |
| Posted By: nogard Posted On: Jun 18, 2009 Views: 2281 | RE: PK experiments get a brain? i have more that you do, mouron. if you would know how to apply that brain of yours, maybe you would understand what am i talking about. if anyone else would see this, lets hope that anyone else sees this and shows us who is right. you are giving me more reasons to be right. "SOUND WAVES" thats what i said!!! so... if they emiting soud waves, THEY OBVIOUSLY CANT SEE!!!! idiot. most of them cant see in daylight, thats why they are flying only at night. go study, but when you start, start from the 1st grade. stupid brainless idiot that wants to be right in everything. you think if you own this site, you can be always right? **** THIS!! and **** YOU TOO!! PS: if everyone else is reading this, tell me which "opinions are more close to truth". |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Jun 18, 2009 Views: 2277 | RE: PK experiments You said, and I quote...""SOUND WAVES" thats what i said!!! so... if they emiting soud waves, THEY OBVIOUSLY CANT SEE!!!! idiot. most of them cant see in daylight, thats why they are flying only at night" Wow! You are even more stupid than I thought! What makes you think bats can´t see in daylight making them only able to fly at night???? Unreal! You clearly know nothing whatsoever about bats! Nothing. Most bats are nocturnal but they will occasionally fly during the day if food is in short supply. They normally prefer to start flying at dusk because that is when the vast majority of insects they eat are in the air and their own predators are asleep. Because they are by nature nocturnal and therefore normally fly in the dark, they use echolocation more than eye sight. Echolocation is simply the making of high frequency squeaks, usually beyond any frequency detectable by the human ear, and locate objects in the dark by listening for their echo, very similar to how submarines send out sound pulses and pick up the echoes. I hope that information has enlightened you. For more information visit How bats work Always a pleasure to help educate the ignorant. PS.-You really should work on your spelling and grammar, it makes you appear uneducated. |
| Posted By: Luke Posted On: Jun 18, 2009 Views: 2269 | RE: RE: PK experiments I would like to just touch on one point: "'Person - oh, i have this experiment and i figured out i have a TK ability, woah, awesome. You - No, you dont, TK doesnt exists and you try to do experiments in closed room and try to move object which is inside closed glass box' You want them to reject their theory about TK." You might be correct that his intentions are to reject the theories on telekinesis. However, experimentation is designed to reject a theory, not confirm it. The famous philosopher of science Karl Popper rightly put it when he said we can never prove a theory to be correct, but we can disprove it. He claims that we can never, even in principle, conclusively confirm that all planets have elliptical orbits. But we can, in principle, refute the claim that all planets have elliptical orbits. Whats this means is a theory is supposed to make a risky prediction that if proven false will falsify the whole theory. Keith's actual opinion shouldn't hold too much strength in how the experiment is conducted one way or the other. |
| Posted By: nogard Posted On: Jun 19, 2009 Views: 2265 | RE: PK experiments some stupid idiotic creature named Keith wants to tell me what to do? You are idiot, or just pretending to be one? You are giving me more things to be right. Ddnt you see on previois post what i said? THIS ISNT ABOUT BATS!!! i was talking about TK and bats was just an exaple, all you said, i know it and i dont need to go into some idiotic site to confirm it, i know more then you can imagine. Now, as i said, bats was only example on how person couldnt reach an objet which is inside a glass box. Cant you understand that your TK theories and expariments are useless? As Luke confirms and i say it again, you only want to be right in everything and reject other's thoughts. As about you Luke, TK is not a theory, its not philosofy, but yes, it is connected with brain/mind using. Even if some things dont exist, like, TK, PK, TP. Do you think that anyone would come out and say, "Oh, im going to invent thing called TK, and use it with my "mind power"" or any other incluiding TK. it should have appeared from somewhere. its not like i believe or reject these abilities, even if the Do, or dont exist. I wont say if i do or dont believe, to for not beying on any side of this site's people. Anyway, you should understand where im trying to lead with those words. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Jun 19, 2009 Views: 2261 | RE: PK experiments This isn´t about bats? You are the one who raised the subject of bats, by claiming that the waves they emitted to avoid objects may be very similar to TK. This is what you said..."and bat can avoid hitting the object/obstacle. so does the mind, if TK IS real (maybe it is) you might emit those almost similar waves, but not to evade stuff, but to controle them with your mind,...". I merely pointed out that the bat only emits perfectly ordinary sound waves - although at too high a frequency for the human ear to detect - and there is nothing at all mysterious about it, it´s called echolocation. To suggest that TK may be "almost similar waves" i.e. sound, and is used to control objects is ludicrous. TK is sound waves???? Never mind, you have obviously lost the plot and got very angry. Go away, chill out and stop talking crap. |
| Posted By: nogard Posted On: Jun 19, 2009 Views: 2257 | RE: PK experiments well, you forgot one thig. i didnt say that TK used SOUND WAVES!!! i said it might be similar. and no, its not about bats, its about TK we are talking about, im chilled, you were the one who started beying annoyed aou of nothing. now read to what i have to say. I said similar, it means, that if there is TK, then human beying wont be able control the object which is situated behind the glass, cause waves would bounce off and the human beying wont be able to move it. that what was my point from the biginning when you started incluiding bats as a FULL topic. I said it was only example to express how would TK work, and you started to get mad and call me stupid and that i dont have a brain.. ha ha.. now forget about bats and try to understand where i was trying to lead you from the beginning. big ps: dont try to be the best in this site, and stop refusing other people's thoughts. Try talk to them, not like "no, you are wrong! that doesnt exists, this isnt real, and whatever, i rule", try to be understandable, ppl need help, not rejection. be like "oke, if you think so, what leads you to that conclusion? explain me. try to do this exercise, or that exercise.." and dont go with your aquarium again, or whatever that glass box.. |
| Posted By: Keith Mayes Posted On: Jun 20, 2009 Views: 2252 | RE: PK experiments This statement of yours is really quite funny when you think about it: "... if there is TK, then human beying wont be able control the object which is situated behind the glass, cause waves would bounce off and the human beying wont be able to move it." I see. So TK waves "bounce off" glass without having any effect on it. Why then don´t they "bounce off" the psi wheel without affecting it, regardless of it being made made of paper, foil, metal, plastic, whatever? How is it that only glass stops these magic waves, but other materials move? Give me a break! PS.Try using a spellcheck. |
| Pages [ 1 2 3 ] Next Page -> |