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Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Oct 6, 2006
Views: 662
RE: RE: whats holdin ya back?

I have to say Woodpecker that you are way off track on this one. There is no similarity between a belief in God and a belief in TK simply because neither one has been proven, and many would argue that the case for God has been.

The point here is not that they haven't been proven but the fact that they could be.
God could decide to pay us a visit and thereby prove his existence to the world. The problem with that however is that it would be His decision, and would therefore be outside the control of those who believe in Him. His believers are not able to prove his existence.

With those that claim to have TK, this is not a belief - for them - but a claim that can be very easily verified, all they have to do is demonstrate it.

I would say that is a hell of a difference. One can't be proven and the other can. How can you say that as a belief system they are both the same?

Admit it or not, you are wrong on this one.


Posted By: jimbo

Posted On: Oct 7, 2006
Views: 655
RE: whats holdin ya back?

sigh.....omg did any of u read the first post in this thread!!??? and yet you ppl are still arguin like children!!! this is my last post on this site because im done wasting my time with you ppl! once again if you can prove it, prove it! other than that stop arguin about this. dont you guys have lives to attend to? point: out of all the ppl that say it exists...learn it then prove it if you cant then it doesnt exist for all we know so please stop arguin.........prove it or forget about TK!!!!

jimbo out


Posted By: Grant

Posted On: Oct 8, 2006
Views: 652
RE: RE: whats holdin ya back?

Jeez Woodpecker you really are a moron. You talk the most outrageous garbage!! Your still comparing God and TK...you might as well compare TK and Father Christmas. Your comments are based on your own pathetic stupidity, try using some sense for once. If people claim to be able to perform TK they should be able to demonstrate it, can you get that into your thick head woodpecker???

TK can be proved God can't so stop comparing the two.


Posted By: Grant

Posted On: Oct 8, 2006
Views: 651
RE: whats holdin ya back?

Oh and Helen are you related to Woodpecker by any chance? It's just that your comments are just as moronic as all of woodpecker's.

Uri Geller...what a joke, he's a fraud for christ's sake. I agree with Keith you need to get out more everyone should know that Uri Geller is a fraud, even he know's it!!!


Posted By: Nerd

Posted On: Oct 10, 2006
Views: 642
RE: RE: whats holdin ya back?

Mary poppins did it in a movie the rest of us have to clean up the kid's rooms ourselves.

Even to suggest that TK 'might/could' be possible is laughable.

TK, should be filed along with telepathy, Hawking radiation, Islam is a peaceful religion, there's life on mars, Tony blair is a nice guy and ET is here.


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Oct 10, 2006
Views: 640
RE: whats holdin ya back?

Nerd,
I think you may have some issues...


Posted By: Nerd

Posted On: Oct 10, 2006
Views: 638
RE: whats holdin ya back?

Wot issues?

Hawking radiation?

Great, when the maths don't fit, just chuck in something that can't be tested for 10^70 years and bingo - all solved. Of course if it means something out of nothing, well that's a bonus!



Posted By: wei

Posted On: Oct 23, 2006
Views: 619
RE: RE: whats holdin ya back?

woodpecker, here's how to make the god vs. tk issue clearer

On both sides, people can say that they believe in tk, and others can say that they believe in god.

But

People can say that they can PERFORM tk

but on the other side, you don't see anyone saying that they can pat god on the back


Posted By: Woodpecker

Posted On: Oct 29, 2006
Views: 615
RE: whats holdin ya back?

Thanks Wei, that is what getting at. Of course it's a lot easier to test for telekinetic abilities than it is to test the existence of God, but that wasn't my point and I'm sorry if I implied that. :)

On another note: Grant, I may be a moron and thick, but one thing I am is polite to everyone I meet. The same cannot be said of you. You have insulted me from square one.


Posted By: Gifted

Posted On: Oct 30, 2006
Views: 610
RE: whats holdin ya back?

Grant, why are you such a defensive asshole?
Woodpecker is extremely courteous, trying to prove his points validity, and you bash him for even considering that his point could ever be valid.
Keith and Grant,
Of course you wouldn't agree that Faith in God, and Faith in TK are in any way similar. It's a valid analogy that contradicts your obstinant need to be right all the time. Woodpecker is simply creating an analogy between the two and both of you are attacking him; try to be more mature. You aren't right all of the time. You should learn to consider the possiblity of your relative ineptitude.

You aren't always right. Get over it.

Woodpecker,
I haven't been on in a while. I apologise. Keith is being a hypocrite-again. I understand your analogy, even if they refuse to consider anything that may support Faith in TK, directly or indirectly.

Keith, you should block yourself and Grant. You're both doing what "your worst nightmare" was doing, though with more euphemisms than he could muster.

Don't be such asses.


Posted By: Keith Mayes

Posted On: Oct 30, 2006
Views: 607
RE: whats holdin ya back?

Gifted,
Your only gift is stupidity.


Posted By: Grant

Posted On: Nov 2, 2006
Views: 597
RE: whats holdin ya back?

Woodpecker

Your Quote "Grant, I may be a moron and thick, but one thing I am is polite to everyone I meet. The same cannot be said of you. You have insulted me from square one."

You are capable of speaking some sort of sense then...I think this quote is about the only thing that I agree with you on, especially the Moron and Thick part!!!

Gifted,

I'm not at all surprised that you agree with Woodpecker especially after reading the 'Laughable arguments' thread. I would actually go as far to say that you are a much bigger moron because you actually believe TK is real even though you can't share any sort of creditable evidence to even support TK.

I couldn't care less wether Woodpecker is courteous or not. If he makes stupid comments then I will treat him like he's stupid. His arguments to defend TK are nothing but pointless and irritating. He attemted to compare TK and a fricking violin!!! How pathetic... I hardly see how anything Woodpecker said contradicts what I believe. How the heck can you compare peoples faith in God to people who claim TK is real, if TK is real it should be possible to be demonstrated but it can't. My little brother believes in Father Christmas, can that be compared to God then?

For christ sake, I took one glance at your name and I knew straight away your one of these muppets who are tunnel vision when it comes to TK. Nothing anybody will say will change your opinion even though there is not one shread of evidence to support what you believe in. Don't get me wrong you can believe what ever you want but one thing that is certain and that is you will be no closer to TK 50 years from now.



Posted By: Woodpecker

Posted On: Nov 2, 2006
Views: 594
RE: whats holdin ya back?

Grant, your quote:

"Don't get me wrong you can believe what ever you want."

In which case, why are you treating us so badly?


Posted By: Woodpecker

Posted On: Nov 2, 2006
Views: 591
RE: RE: whats holdin ya back?

Sorry about double-post. I missed this the first time:

Grant again:

"His arguments to defend TK are nothing but pointless and irritating."

If they are irritating to you, well, that's hardly my problem.

"You are capable of speaking some sort of sense then...I think this quote is about the only thing that I agree with you on, especially the Moron and Thick part!!!"

Ok, so the only way you will treat me with respect is if I agree with you? Well of course I will oblige you...NOT!! Is it so hard to treat people who don't share your opinion and provide 'stupid' arguments with respect? If I was as rude to you as you are with me, then I might consider that some justification for your behaviour. However, I cannot see what the problem you have with me is. What if my comments and opinions are misguided? By all means argue against me but surely an outright impolite and agressive attack is just unreasonable.

"I couldn't care less wether[sic] Woodpecker is courteous or not. If he makes stupid comments then I will treat him like he's stupid."

Why, thank you! Would you like me to call you names, like you have been doing with me? I was going to say 'probably not', but then I realised it was unlikely you would care.

Grant, it has become increasingly difficult for me to:
1) put up with your attitude;
2) listen to someone who constantly abuses me.

Are you incapable of treating people who don't share your opinion nicely?


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